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Old Posted Jul 17, 2017, 6:03 PM
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^^^ wouldn't the ground level here be at most a few feet about CCD since it's so close to the lake and river?
perhaps. i'm not really sure what sets CCD.
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There's this dumb sh*t- "And, by law, the space cannot be illuminated. So when Vista twinkles in the Chicago skyline at night, she will have a black choker across her neck." 432 Park Ave in NYC has four blow-throughs, all of which are illuminated and look quite good. Illinois law remains ass backwards.
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what could the reason for this "law" possibly be?
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anyone know what is the actual law against lighting unoccupied spaces? seems pretty strange but there must be some reason, bass-ackwards or not...
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perhaps. i'm not really sure what sets CCD.
Last time I worked on a project along the river, CCD was 2' above river level.
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2017, 6:55 PM
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"The City Datum is hereby established as a plane 17.640 feet below the bench mark cut on top of the bottom stone of granite base at the Southeast corner of the Northern Trust Company Bank Building at the Northwest corner of S. LaSalle and W. Monroe."

It's so easy to remember, right?

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Old Posted Jul 17, 2017, 6:57 PM
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anyone know what is the actual law against lighting unoccupied spaces? seems pretty strange but there must be some reason, bass-ackwards or not...
It's Chicago, where too much Government making unnecessary laws to justify their own existence is a norm
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2017, 6:58 PM
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"the city datum is hereby established as a plane 17.640 feet below the bench mark cut on top of the bottom stone of granite base at the southeast corner of the northern trust company bank building at the northwest corner of s. Lasalle and w. Monroe."

it's so easy to remember, right?

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Old Posted Jul 17, 2017, 7:11 PM
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It might look something like this:



In which case, the floors could give the building an interesting visual feature, much like the Optima towers.
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2017, 8:01 PM
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It might look something like this:



In which case, the floors could give the building an interesting visual feature, much like the Optima towers.
nice job.

could they ever do some kind of custom lighting inside that could reflect bulls/cubs/bears/hawks championships?? Or anything else that could be currently on-going in the city? seems like there could be tons of other ideas to light that floor that would be better than just black.

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https://chicago.curbed.com/2017/7/17...-design-update

"Other mid-stream changes to the Vista plan include a revised, less complicated exterior glass system that ditches green coloring for more bluish tones."

Uggg. More value-engineering. I'm so sick of blue glass. At least the green was going to be a little different.
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2017, 10:13 PM
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So, the parapet height goes from 1,194' to 1,198.5' and minus 7'9"

The new height is 1,190.6' or if we round up, 1,191'.



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"Other mid-stream changes to the Vista plan include a revised, less complicated exterior glass system that ditches green coloring for more bluish tones."
So, kind of like we see in the Site I rendering...

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replacement of green glass with blue is a legit bummer
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replacement of green glass with blue is a legit bummer
Agreed. Green would have been so much better.
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Old Posted Jul 18, 2017, 1:17 AM
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Regarding the blow-thru ....I think it was on the original post rendering from Dan back in 2014.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=212182
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Old Posted Jul 18, 2017, 1:19 AM
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"Other mid-stream changes to the Vista plan include a revised, less complicated exterior glass system that ditches green coloring for more bluish tones."

Uggg. More value-engineering. I'm so sick of blue glass. At least the green was going to be a little different.
i also dont understand how blue glass is any cheaper than green
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Old Posted Jul 18, 2017, 1:34 AM
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replacement of green glass with blue is a legit bummer
To each their own but I'm a fan of blue personally.
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i also dont understand how blue glass is any cheaper than green
I assume blue glass is produced in much higher volumes and therefor has greater economies of scale in production and distribution?

Green is more expensive because its the color of money after all
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i mean i assume all the windows are more or less being custom made anyway? but i guess thats possible
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Kinda of crazy that they just change the glass color like that...I mean almost seems they never had intention on the green glass...who makes a big change of glass color after the building is already under construction and a few stories out of the ground...they order this glass way in advance dont they?...prolly had blue glass ordered from the start...
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I would rather see colorless glass than either.
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