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Old Posted Oct 11, 2006, 4:24 AM
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Unless you were born yesterday (which I realize many around here almost were) you'd have to have recognized from the start that the Human Rights Museum was a longshot. The idea with this sort of thing is that you announce something impressive but underfunded and then hope public excitement will put enough pressure on the government to provide the missing cash. I think they kind of overreached with this, and obviously the Aspers were blindsided by the election of a Tory government that they don't have much influence with. But who knows...maybe it will come together somehow.
they have 220 million dollars raised....hardly chump change....and harldy puts it in the category of "long shot".

they have the money to build the project...it is only legacy funding and operations that is the concern.....they only want the same treatement as every other national museum...less actually.
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2006, 4:40 AM
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the $150m expansion of HSC (government funded)
Errr, your wrong on some of the things surrounding the HSC. Only the CSRP (critical services redevelopment project) is wholly gov't funded. Then again it is an operating room and the option of private health care doesn't exist.

However, the Siemens Institute for Advanced Medicine will receive the vast majority of its funding and initial operating capital from private donors, Siemens, and Canad Inns (who on top of this will pay royalties on each dollar the hotel brings in to the HSC)

In the case of Siemens, the institute itself will act as a experimental lab and showroom for the latest and greatest in Siemens technology in the area of medical technology and life sciences.

You'd be proud of the marriage between the private and public sector on this one Newflyer.

I can't disclose too many more of the details. but I think the institute will be a hit.
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2006, 5:04 AM
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Winnipeg may not be neo-Calgary, despite the fact that many wish it would be. Winnipeg will be Winnipeg. Winnipeg is a city of roughly 720,000 (metro) people ...I would be VERY interested to see a project list out of Hamilton or Quebec City ...both of which are EXTREMELY close in size, and see how Winnipeg stacks up. My guess would be that we do extremely well...

Anyways. I am very excited to see the Health Sciences Centre continue to grow with those two incredible large additions. It will be quite the hub, and in a neat little location. ...can't wait to see final renderings of both projects.
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2006, 5:58 AM
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anyhow lets get back ontopic here....
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2006, 2:10 PM
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So what's the deal with that, anyway? Rumors of some project to re-do that part of Main?

I always thought it was sad that practically no one in Winnipeg knew about the Upper Fort Garry gate. Everyone goes to Lower Fort Garry on a field trip, but the city fort just gets ignored. Was a nice place to walk to and eat lunch when I worked in that area, but it was such a tiny little park for such an important part of Winnipeg's history. Sure, the Forks covers that somewhat, but the Forks is mostly just a big commercial entitiy. Not exactly museum-quality, which is what they should do with the gate. Build a nice big interpretive park, and try to figure out a way to keep the "locals" from sleeping in there. It's been a while, but there used to be a lot of people "sleeping" (ie: passed out) in parks around that area and south of Assiniboine Ave.

Is the gate currently located at its actual original position? I seem to recall that it had been moved there from somewhere close by, but it's been at least 10 years since I've read the plaques and I may be remembering wrong. Would be cool if they could put it at the exact (or as close as we know) position that it was historically.
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I'm pretty sure that's the original gate at the original position. I don't think that was the main entrance though.
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No, the gate stands at its original location. It would have been the main entrance for people travelling by land, but the south entrance, facing the forks of the rivers, would have been considered the main entrance.
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2006, 8:48 PM
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Sorry to be a stick in the mud here but why are we even having this discussion right now and given the topic a dedicated thread ? We have what essentially amounts to a rumour (no offense True Viking. I only mean that we know nothing about any of the proposals but what you can tell us. By the very nature of your business you can't tell us much and I appreciate and respect that) Certainly it's a rumour from a very reliable source and that part isn't in question. Nevertheless, we have the barest information and we don't even know who precisely is involved, what they want to do, what the city will accept, and where any money is coming from. For all practical purposes we have only speculation. I'm excited about what TrueViking has said but for all we know every proposal will be shot down or rescinded. I'm sure he'll be more than happy to tell us the good news when it arrives but considering the stage we're at , speculation (and a dedicated thread) seems awfully premature.
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2006, 8:52 PM
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why can't we do this.... they do it all the time in other subforums............

its one of many proposils viking has mentioned we could wind up with a exspanded park that the historical society is jumping up and down for...

witch we have seen the plans for hmm goes and digs them out of the monster.... now witch monster was it in hmmm
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Old Posted Oct 12, 2006, 1:06 AM
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^You can do whatever you want. I'm just saying that considering how little there is to go on, this seems kind of pointless right now. TV can't tell us what we'd like to know and without it, what have we got ? Zip.
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well at least we will get rid of some of that surfqace parking along main
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Old Posted Oct 12, 2006, 2:14 AM
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Don't worry. Like every sub-thread here, after 3 pages it will devolve into a Victoria vs Edmonton vs Calgary vs Regina vs Winnipeg vs Toronto flamefest.

Followed by page-long dissertations on economic theory ripped straight from 150 year old textbooks, why we hate taxes, and how the devil himself lives in a single family dwelling.

Then, some nice shots of the snow in Winnipeg. It only took you guys a month to catch up to us.
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Old Posted Oct 12, 2006, 2:18 AM
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haha so thats why i post my pics to distract plp from pointles arguments
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Old Posted Oct 12, 2006, 4:26 AM
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i would tend to agree with you spocket

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Old Posted Oct 14, 2006, 6:32 AM
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However, the Siemens Institute for Advanced Medicine will receive the vast majority of its funding and initial operating capital from private donors, Siemens, and Canad Inns (who on top of this will pay royalties on each dollar the hotel brings in to the HSC)
Yes you are very correct.. I was refering to the hospital proper... including the new childern's hospital building and parkade.
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Old Posted Oct 14, 2006, 6:38 AM
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seriously newflyer, did the government beat you as a child or what.....
Sorry, but I don't consider a ton of government projects worth the time of day. The reality is any lazy government can blow through a ton of cash, but it takes a qualified government to lay the conditions which build the economy and attract private investment, which builds the taxbase for the future governments.

Ah nevermind... Winnipegers are lost is a socialist fog. A true shame that so much petencial is completely wasted.

Enjoy your parking lots.. while dreaming of the next BIG government mega project.

Maybe once we reach November 2017 and have paid off the massive city debt, caused by previous GREAT ideas of government beauracrats, we can start to plan a real rapid transit system.
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Old Posted Oct 14, 2006, 6:51 AM
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hospitals hmm biotec were trying to be miniaplis jr.... now if we could just get are Ass in GEAR!!!
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First a question............................by TCH is that the same as Portage?
It seems to me that Winnipeg seems to be doing just fine economically as does all of Manitoba for that matter.

Also, I don't understand why people are down on Winnipeg's downtown.
It has the nicest downtown of any prarie province and before you ask.........yes, I am including Edmonton and Calgary's.
Winnipegs has something refreshing that those don't, character.
Winnipeg's downtown is also a hell of a lot more active after 6 than Calgary's and ESPECIALLY Edmonton's.
I really don't understand why Manitobans are so down on their fair metropolis.
I would consider moving to Winnipeg but there are two thing that hold me back...........mosquitos {which I still cannot be beleive that can't control} and the high crime rate.
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