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Old Posted Aug 27, 2014, 3:02 PM
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You said it was a pie in the sky to even get approved and that happened... don't be so negative all the time. A strong vision with willpower can accomplish quite a bit. And I think even you will be surprised with the end result. We also have the Oxford proposals, as well as 45 Bay (the tallest tower is within super tall height), and the 1 Yonge tallest tower is within striking distance and has a high chance of being upgraded in height.
I have said from day one that the biggest obstacle is NOT the rezoning process but, building it. My comments over the rezoning was also directed towards the density and shadowing which both have been addressed through the elimination of one of the towers and reorientation of the others. PLEASE PAY MORE ATTENTION!

Oxford is a couple of renderings from two years ago. It was at most a vision then and it's looking like it will be no more than that.

The first phase of 45 Bay on the parking lot is proceeding. The rest on top of the Dominion Building is just another vision.

The planning study conducted that includes One Yonge proposes heights up to 500 feet. I would say taller towers is becoming less and less likely.
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Awesome news for Edmonton. The tower might seem clinical in design but after looking at a few different renders I think there is something about it which is uniquely appropriate for Edmonton and given the context for where it is I think it looks fantastic actually. Edmonton sure is jumping in with both feet into the skyscraper game post-airport relocation!
I think the Manulife 2 proposal is more appropriate for Edmonton, Stantec is a good first step, but it's still kinda clunky.

Edmonton looks like it needs to bring in some top foreign architects to shake things up like Calgary is doing. Local talent just isn't up to par in this game.
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Old Posted Aug 27, 2014, 3:26 PM
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I have said from day one that the biggest obstacle is NOT the rezoning process but, building it. My comments over the rezoning was also directed towards the density and shadowing which both have been addressed through the elimination of one of the towers and reorientation of the others. PLEASE PAY MORE ATTENTION!

Oxford is a couple of renderings from two years ago. It was at most a vision then and it's looking like it will be no more than that.

The first phase of 45 Bay on the parking lot is proceeding. The rest on top of the Dominion Building is just another vision.

The planning study conducted that includes One Yonge proposes heights up to 500 feet. I would say taller towers is becoming less and less likely.
I am saving this to my computer and when we get a supertall tower approved in this city I will refer back to this Because trust me... it's coming.
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Old Posted Aug 27, 2014, 3:33 PM
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@Calgarian: Once outsiders see the fear of height disappear and the new arena there will be more interest in the Edmonton market. In the end its all good news for Edmonton. I would like it to be a little more elegant, but its got more good than bad. Clean up the disjunction between residential and commercial or maybe make the disjunction more bold. Right now it's either suffering from poor integration or not enough disintegration.

A night of thinking has me wondering why the balconies on the North side as opposed to the South side where you would get views of the city and river valley. There's even a bit of harkening back to the CN Tower down the street.

All I want to say can be summed up as Edmonton has moved a long way since that Ironwood proposal. Well done.
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Old Posted Aug 27, 2014, 4:23 PM
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I think the Manulife 2 proposal is more appropriate for Edmonton, Stantec is a good first step, but it's still kinda clunky.

Edmonton looks like it needs to bring in some top foreign architects to shake things up like Calgary is doing. Local talent just isn't up to par in this game.
Amen and that shift has begun to occur...

102st (manu 2) is a stunner, hands down.

Stantec will have to be rezoned and go through the design committee, so as mentioned in other threads, expect some refinement of the interaction.
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Old Posted Aug 27, 2014, 4:35 PM
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From Ottawa's emerging "Arts District"

Nouvelle Scène Theatre on King Edward:



http://www.radio-canada.ca/regions/o...ee-terre.shtml

Arts Court expansion, with Le Germain Boutique Hotel, one block east of Rideau Centre Expansion:









http://app05.ottawa.ca/sirepub/agdoc...&itemid=319179

And although not a building, but a proposal non the less, the City of Ottawa and Queen's Park have started the study to build the King Edward truck tunnel under downtown Ottawa which would connect Québec Highway 5 and 50 to the 417 (Queensway).

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-...n-truck-tunnel
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^ That looks really cool!
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Old Posted Aug 27, 2014, 4:48 PM
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Arts Court Expansion looks like it's got one too many texture changes, but it's a pleasant change for Ottawa. I wouldn't be mad if one got built in my city.
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That looks awesome. I especially love that edgey colourful sculpture at the bottom.


Speaking of cultural facilities... one week from today, Calgary's Snohetta-designed new Central Library will be revealed. I've RSVP'd to the design unveiling at the convention centre. At $250 million, it is going to be stunning. All we know so far (from insider sources) is that it's white and incredible.
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Old Posted Aug 27, 2014, 6:43 PM
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I think the Manulife 2 proposal is more appropriate for Edmonton, Stantec is a good first step, but it's still kinda clunky.

Edmonton looks like it needs to bring in some top foreign architects to shake things up like Calgary is doing. Local talent just isn't up to par in this game.
Manulife 2 was nice but IMO pretty generic. You could plop it into any city and it would be a nice little glass box. Stantec has some unique personality to it.
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Let's keep in mind the only city in Canada with multiple 300m+ proposals IS Toronto. So while it's fun to dream of what ifs, TO actually is moving in real time with actual proposals.
It was obviously a joke. There's no need to suddenly shoehorn how big Toronto's construction boom is into a discussion about this Edmonton proposal.
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Old Posted Aug 27, 2014, 7:08 PM
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The planning study conducted that includes One Yonge proposes heights up to 500 feet. I would say taller towers is becoming less and less likely.
I'm pretty sure that that at One Yonge will crack 300 meters, although there may be fewer towers overall in the scheme.
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Old Posted Aug 27, 2014, 7:16 PM
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I am saving this to my computer and when we get a supertall tower approved in this city I will refer back to this Because trust me... it's coming.
For what purpose? Mirvish is approved. I have always supported that supertalls will be built at some point and in the right place whenever people start proclaiming are planning system is against height. And FCP will reign in perpetuity. These examples are either not going to be built, are way too eary in the process to declare as proposals or, do not reach 300 metres in height.
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Quarter million dollar library for Calgary is quite a luxury item. Vancouver's library doesn't even come close to that (107 million 1995) even in today's dollars.


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I am saving this to my computer and when we get a supertall tower approved in this city I will refer back to this Because trust me... it's coming.
A supertall has already been approved in Toronto...

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Stantec will have to be rezoned and go through the design committee, so as mentioned in other threads, expect some refinement of the interaction.
I hope so, Stantec has a lot of contacts and clout in Edmonton though, so I doubt the design committee will take it to them too hard.
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I do not see the need for downplaying reality. The stats speak for themselves. Why be shameful of the biggest boom in any Canadian city's history? Be proud of it.
You saying this doesn't really bother me except for the fact that you jump all over certain other forumers from other cities who feel as passionately as you do but about different cities. A tad ironic.
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You saying this doesn't really bother me except for the fact that you jump all over certain other forumers from other cities who feel as passionately as you do but about different cities. A tad ironic.
You just don't understand. When he does it it's totally justified and makes perfect sense.
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I like that Ottawa proposal. One of the better parts of the city. Out of my price range by a long shot though.
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A supertall has already been approved in Toronto...



I hope so, Stantec has a lot of contacts and clout in Edmonton though, so I doubt the design committee will take it to them too hard.

Maybe after Stantec receives feedback from Edmontonians...Stantec might take it to themselves.
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VOX Condos coming to 28-40 Wellesley Street East by Cresford--35 storeys--a cheaper smaller version of their typical aA glass aesthetic coming here?

King Blue Condos site has sold to a Chinese developer.
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