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Old Posted Aug 16, 2010, 3:11 PM
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Here's an article from Real estate Weekly this past June, that suggests that building above their existing basement and sub-basement may not be too far off:

250 West 55th Street could begin sooner rather than later sources say
Daniel Geiger
6/7/2010

Even though office market is still far from peak, a rationle for new speculative is beginning to emerge
Three years ago, Boston Properties was busily planning to construct a brand new office tower at 250 West 55th Street.

The company ended up pumping over $400 million into the project, money it paid to acquire the development parcel, excavate and pour the building’s foundation and cover other costs such as the fabrication of steel beams and girders it will use to lay the tower’s structural frame.

Early last year however, as the economy sunk into the depths of a serious recession, the company’s plans were dealt a significant setback. Proskauer Rose, a large law firm that Boston Properties had been negotiating with to take about 400,000 square feet in the roughly 1 million square foot tower, dropped out of the leasing talks.

Facing an office market that looked bleak, Boston Properties subsequently announced in February 2009 that it would put 250 West 55th Street on hold even though it meant paying a hefty $12.8 million termination fee to Gibson Dunn, a law firm that had, prior to the Proskauer negotiations, signed a deal for 200,000 square feet of the tower’s space.

The development has been on hiatus ever since, ostensibly in wait of a turnaround in the economy so that Boston Properties can secure prearranged leasing commitments at high enough rents and for enough of the building’s space to make the project financially feasible.

But experts say that the company is engaged in more than just a simple waiting game.
Sources involved in the project and real estate experts familiar with the development say
Boston Properties is actively piecing together a forecast of the office market and weighing other factors to draw a roadmap how and when to begin erecting steel.

According to sources, the firm is consulting with one of its outside advisors, John Powers, a top New York executive at the real estate services firm CB Richard Ellis with a reputation for having a sophisticated grasp of commercial office development and the dynamics of the leasing market.

At least a portion of the debate about when to build appears to be focused on what size anchor tenant Boston Properties would be willing to accept before embarking on the project. Coupled to the calculus of that decision, according to sources, is a projection of the demand for the remaining space.

One of the trickiest aspects in this type of analysis and often, in commercial development in general, is to predict what the office market will hold in the future. To get the timing of a development right, developers usually have to gamble to some degree and begin building before it is clear that leasing is heading towards a high point so that they can be ready to catch the peak when it happens and capitalize on it.

Already there are signs that the office market is turning around, particularly in midtown, which fell fast from the boom times before the downturn but has appeared increasingly to have stabilized over the past year.

In recent weeks for instance, 11 Times Square finished a roughly 400,000 square foot deal with Proskauer Rose, the big fish that slipped away from 250 West 55th Street. The deal is encouraging nonetheless according to real estate experts because it shows vacant
space is beginning to get sopped up and that tenants will pay for quality space. 11 Times Square is a recently completed office tower on 42nd Stret across from the Port Authority bus terminal that, as 250 West 55th Street will undoubtedly do when it is built, has attracted attention from tenants mesmerized by its gleaming new space.

Boston Properties has seen the market’s resiliency within its own portfolio as well. A large block of vacancy opened in 399 Park Avenue, a trophy tower the company owns along one of the city’s most prestigious avenues, when one of the building’s biggest tenants, Lehman Brothers, collapsed and emptied hundreds of thousands of square feet there in 2008. Boston Properties scrambled to fill the space by dropping rents and quickly arranged a succession of takers for nearly the entire block.

Few real estate experts feel that Boston Properties would build 250 West 55th Street without a sizeable tenant in place to anchor the development. But those with knowledge of the project say that the company could build without commitments for much of the space in order to wait for the higher rental rates many expect will return in a few years if the market tightens further.

A prevailing sense fell over the real estate industry during the downturn that speculative development was too risky to be viable and that projects would need to be virtually fully leased to come out of the ground. 250 West 55th could prove to be another sign that that perspective is shifting. Already Edward Minskoff, a real estate owner and developer in Manhattan, told Real Estate Weekly in recent weeks that he is planning to begin building a roughly 400,000 square foot speculative office building in Cooper Square next year because he believes there will be demand for the space by the time he is finished constructing the project.

Most real estate experts feel that the market has bottomed and will approach, or even eclipse, the lofty rental and occupancy peaks of the last boom as the economy regains its health over the next few years. There are also suggestions that because so few new buildings have been added to Manhattan’s stock of square footage and the majority of office towers in the city are decades old, new tower development will be necessary when the leasing market rebounds.

To construct a strategy within this rationale, Boston Properties could bow to the current anemic market conditions and accept a moderately priced lease in order to get the development started and then hopefully cash in when leasing improves and better deals can be arranged.

While a developer strictly in the planning phase of an office tower might postpone such decision making until market factors became clearer, Boston Properties already has poured significant funds into the roughly billion-dollar project. Its investment comes with carrying costs, such as taxes on the land where the tower will rise and debt service on the mortgage it took to finance the parcel’s purchase. These charges have provided further motivation for the company to move ahead with the development sooner rather than later, sources say.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 18, 2010, 9:00 PM
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Demolition scaffolding went up today

At the NW corner of the block, where Harry Gross (G. Holdings) is to build a Marriott, the demolition scaffolding went up today, which should mean they are ready to begin construction. The current property has been vacant for a year, so to pull it down now should mean the money is in place.

What will this do to Moinian's recent announcement in the N.Y. Post (Steve Cuozzo) that he is looking for a partner to build a 400-room hotel at 237 West 54th Street, which would be directly up against the Marriott?
     
     
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Here's an article from Real estate Weekly this past June, that suggests that building above their existing basement and sub-basement may not be too far off:

250 West 55th Street could begin sooner rather than later sources say

Daniel Geiger
6/7/2010
Wouldn't be too surprising. There's no major new office space breaking ground in Midtown, this one is ready to rise. (BTW, please provide a link for articles)
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Article link here...

The link for the Real Estate Weekly article is here:

http://www.rew-online.com/news/story.aspx?id=965
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 23, 2010, 5:22 PM
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Nordstrom to open 1st full-priced NYC store?



August 23, 2010

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Nordstrom, the Seattle-based department store, is on the hunt for retail space in a bid to open its first full-priced New York City location. The company successfully debuted Nordstrom Rack, its discount spinoff, three months ago in Union Square, but doesn't "want to be known to New Yorkers as a discounter," one broker told Crain's.

A possible location for the retailer is Boston Properties' brand new office tower at 250 West 55th Street, sources said, which could be welcome news for the stalled project. Nordstrom, whose spokesperson said the company is "still looking for the right opportunity," came close to opening a store on the opposite side of town three years ago, when it was in talks to lease space at the former Drake Hotel on Park Avenue and East 56th Street. That deal never came to fruition.
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Even a retailer can help revive an otherwise, dead project. Hope this moves forward.
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New Year could see stalled construction projects revived

January 03, 2011 10:48 AM

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(The Wall Street Journal) -- After several years of scarce construction financing, developers are taking advantage of the rebounding New York economy and are revisiting plans crafted back in 2006 and 2007.

Some of the sites that may see construction starts this year include the first residential tower in Atlantic Yards and an office building at 250 W. 55th St.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...googlenews_wsj
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It would be nice to see some of these projects which have been shelved over the past couple years come out off the woodwork and get back on track. Especially this building, I’ve always been a fan of its design.
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I had never seen this proposal before. I scanned the pages and noticed in the first page a twisting building. Then on the next page the beautiful simple square building is there. I'm sure the twisting building was an old proposal but was changed. Is that correct? If so, I wouldn't mind either design. I like both
     
     
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I had never seen this proposal before. I scanned the pages and noticed in the first page a twisting building. Then on the next page the beautiful simple square building is there. I'm sure the twisting building was an old proposal but was changed. Is that correct? If so, I wouldn't mind either design. I like both
That was an older, alternate plan for the site. The current design is the one that's frozen (literally) at street level.
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That was an older, alternate plan for the site. The current design is the one that's frozen (literally) at street level.
When I read frozen, I thought you meant construction and financially-wise but then I read (literally) lol. Thanks
     
     
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Leasing activity surged 44% to 24.2 million square feet, and the availability rate dropped to 12.6% from 14.2% in 2009. Overall asking rents slipped slightly to $48.32 a square foot, although they were trending higher at the end of the year. Brokers noted some landlords in midtown were starting to raise rents and cut back on concession packages such as free rent.

All the leasing combined with a lack of new development means very large tenants have few options in midtown. There are only eight blocks of space currently on the market with more than 250,000 square feet. That could push tenants to consider looking at the proposed Hudson Yards development or downtown, said Patrick Murphy, a CBRE vice chairman. He added that Boston Properties is having discussion with some tenants that could push the developer to resume construction of its office tower on West 55th Street, which was mothballed during the recession.
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I love this building, any updates?
     
     
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I love this building, any updates?
Still just talk of potential tenants, with the improving market making it look more likely construction will resume...

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/busines...Df0JsLxC9yTLdN

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By LOIS WEISS
March 2, 2011

Now that Comcast has acquired a majority stake, NBC Universal has quietly signed a massive lease at Rockefeller Center with an NBC Trust and General Electric affiliate, public records show.

...The 1,417,777 square-foot lease runs for 10 years and has two five-year options.

...Meanwhile, a detailed scouring of the recent Rockefeller Center deal with accounting and consulting firm Deloitte for about 436,000 square feet found that it encompasses all of the condo units that are not already leased by NBCU.

That explains why some other 30 Rock tenants, like law firm Chadbourne & Parke, are unable to renew and are suddenly on the hunt.

That law firm, as The New York Observer reported, may be negotiating to become the anchor in Boston Properties' stalled office development at 250 W. 55th St.
, where new building construction permits are being kept up-to-date.

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Lease saves 250 W. 55th


By LOIS WEISS
March 8, 2011

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It looks like Boston Properties has finally roped another anchor tenant for 250 W. 55th St. Sources tell us that the law firm Morrison Foerster has signed a letter of intent for at least 200,000 square feet at the upcoming new building.

"It's now a viable project," said one industry source, rejoicing at the notion of a new office building coming on line. The 843,564 square-foot, 40-story glass walled tower-on-a-base was designed by Skidmore Owings & Merrill. Plans call for 25,000 square feet of restaurants and retail, 22,000 foot floor plates, a roof garden on the third floor set back, and a fountain in its lobby.

The project was capped at its foundation when the market turned in 2009, but all permits have been kept up to date. Back then, the law firm Proskauer Rose scrapped talks to move into 400,000 square feet.

In 2010, Boston Properties, a real estate investment trust, paid $12.8 million to terminate a 200,000 square-foot lease signed by law firm Gibson Dunn & Crutcher.

Ironically, Proskauer recently moved into the same amount of feet at the brand new 11 Times Square, which bravely bar reled on with its con struction during the downturn in the market.

Gibson Dunn has also since renewed and ex panded its lease for 20 years at the MetLife building at 200 Park Ave. As first reported in The New York Observer, 30 Rockefeller Plaza's squeezed tenant, law firm Chadbourne & Park, is also negotiating for space at 250.

Just remember that a letter of intent is just a letter and negotiations can still break off before a full lease is signed.

The CB Richard Ellis team that represents Morrison Foerster declined to comment as did Boston Properties. Stay tuned.
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Glimmer of Better Days for Manhattan Offices

By JULIE SATOW
March 29, 2011

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In late 2008, with the economy in free fall and the collapse of negotiations with an anchor tenant, Boston Properties halted construction on an office tower at 250 West 55th Street in Manhattan.

But now, having signed a letter of intent with a tenant, the law firm Morrison Foerster, Boston Properties is preparing to restart construction of the one-million-square-foot building at year’s end. The rough space will be available for tenants by the end of 2013, with occupancy expected in mid-2014.

“When we decided to suspend construction, it was in the context of being very unsure of what was happening in the financial world and when leasing velocity would pick back up,” said Douglas T. Linde, the president and chief financial officer of Boston Properties.

Plans to build the skyscraper, designed by Skidmore, Owings & Merrill, are the latest sign that after three years of tenants ruling the roost, landlords are retaking control of the commercial real estate market. Other signs of a shift include reduced concessions for tenants and higher rents. And, in a few cases, landlords are rejecting deals with some large tenants to sign even larger ones.
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Big law firms suit up to drive market
Recent moves by major law firms are dominating the real estate market


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March 27, 2011

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Recent moves by major law firms to lease large blocks of space and lock in recession-slimmed rents are dominating the market and boosting the fortunes of a few landlords.

“There's a heck of a lot of activity with law firms,” said Robert Sammons, vice president of research services at Cassidy Turley. Saving money “is first and foremost on the list for these firms,” he said.

A classic case is WilmerHale, which came close to grabbing space at Worldwide Plaza, on Eighth Avenue. The landlord refused to close the deal, however, hoping instead to nab financial services giant Nomura as a tenant, which needs more space. WilmerHale recently agreed to take more than 210,000 square feet at 7 World Trade Center, where its rent would be about $53 a square foot, almost half of what the firm pays at 399 Park Ave. The deal would be a coup for not only landlord Silverstein Properties but also the downtown market.

Boston Properties is also being buoyed by bargain-hunting law firms. During the recession, it had deferred building a tower at 250 W. 55th St. But with a commitment from Morrison Foerster for at least 200,000 square feet, the landlord now looks likely to go forward with construction.

Meanwhile, Chadbourne & Parke may also move to 250 W. 55th St. The law firm has been leasing 300,000 square feet at 30 Rockefeller Plaza, but the landlord has opted for a deal with accounting consultancy Deloitte.


Milbank Tweed Hadley & McCloy, whose lease at One Chase Manhattan Plaza expires in about a year, could soon be in the market. Although the initial word was that the firm would renew at the downtown building, landlord J.P. Morgan Chase is considering relocating a number of its midtown employees there.
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Awesome, lets get it started!
Let's get it restarted....


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Sweet! Can't wait to see it start up!
     
     
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