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Old Posted Oct 16, 2019, 6:27 PM
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My daughter lives in New Orleans, and I am always amazed at the number of pot holes and moguls on the residential streets that I have to avoid whenever I go visit her.
Moguls... that's a good description for them. Really love driving down a smooth stretch of street and then all of a sudden... whoa!... one side of the car goes up 3 feet higher as you run over a mogul caused by some massive live oak root.
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^^^^^^^^ LouisVanDerWright,

Yes, the roadbed quality is the prime culprit, the freeze and thaw will then do its job, hand in hand with the traffic conditions. The heavier the traffic, the more damage occurs.

I made a little trip to Vermont a coupla weeks ago, and the roads are topnotch. We hit the highway between South Burlington and Montpelier and noticed a sign on the merging lane that said; Bump! Needless to say, there was no bump to be felt. We had a good laugh about that. I often wonder what Vermonters think when they drive on our highways and streets.
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2019, 6:37 PM
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I though Houston was bad but New York is terrible. You need a Humvee just to get around and not bottom out on potholes and heaved up streets
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2019, 6:49 PM
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People in Portland like to complain about the quality of the roads, which is laughable coming from Michigan - easily the worst state in the nation for road conditions. But Michigan is super overbuilt in roadway capacity and Portland is way, way under built. Saginaw/Tri-Cities, Michigan have more highway capacity than Portland.
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2019, 10:48 PM
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Toronto’s roads are generally terrible, but the suburban and especially provincial roads are pristine. The 400 series highways are as smooth as a baby’s bottom.. just don’t take an exit, especially in the old city.

I find it’s generally getting better over time though. I think as reconstruction projects slowly occur for the full roadbed, roads are brought up to standard and last a lot longer. Older parts of the city often still have the original cobblestone and streetcar tracks under it though, which causes all kinds of problems.

Then you have streets like Adelaide with Abandoned streetcar tracks that haven’t been used in 60 years yet for some reason haven’t even been covered up.. you result with entire stretches of track heaving up and creating “mega bumps” when they end.. very hazardous, especially for cyclists.. they are large enough to throw you off your bike if you aren’t careful.

Montreal comparatively is in another world though. There it’s the roads, sidewalks, freeways, suburban roads, everything. Gravel parking lots even in commercial lots are common, the roads are *always* torn up, under construction, or falling apart, the signal system setups make little sense and aren’t particularly clear (and often don’t even have pedestrian walk signals), the freeways are bumpy, substandard, and over congested, etc. I don’t know if it’s a climate or cultural thing, but Ottawa has a similar climate and seems to do at least a bit better..
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2019, 11:07 PM
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Vancouver is horrid due to having very few freeways, the roads are very poorly connected, and grotesquly over capacity. BC only has one freeway with more than the standard 4 lanes and itès only 30 km long.
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Detroit

If limited to the developed world.
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2019, 3:33 AM
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I was surprised to see Austin and Houston not faring as bad as I thought for road conditions. I guess it's all relative. I see road maintenance in Austin as poor, and maintenance in Houston as a losing battle due to intense rainfall and flooding that the city is well known for.

The best I've experienced is Phoenix, where rainfall is sparse, and freeze-thaw cycles not an issue.
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Phoenix has the opposite problem of Chicago, but the asphalt tends to be rubberized, which helps when it expands during periods of extreme heat.

Problem is, road maintenance is shit compared to what it used to be, or, now that some of the roads and freeways have aged and maintenance hasn't kept up, I'd argue the driving experience isn't as pleasant as it was 10 to 15 years ago.
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Isn't it kind of the point that everyone views their road conditions as shitty? It's kind of comforting in a weird way...
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So, close to the most terrible roads then. The Bay Area does have terrible roads, but I don't think they're worse than Detroit's. The Bay Area also has alternative modes of transit, which Detroit does not.
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That's so weird, I always thought the roads in the Bay were in generally good condition, at least compared to Chicago. I could see if these ranking were based off polls as people in the Bay tend to overreact to the most minimal adverse conditions.
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The worst road conditions I've experienced in North America have been in New Orleans. That goes for sidewalks as well!
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So, close to the most terrible roads then. The Bay Area does have terrible roads, but I don't think they're worse than Detroit's. The Bay Area also has alternative modes of transit, which Detroit does not.
Why would you re-quote the entire graphic? lol

Thinking is nice I guess but you glossed over LA also being worse and Detroit being on par with Milwaukee. I'm not gonna play some transit goal post game, just pointing out you were obviously wrong, you can admit it.
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Florida in general has good roads. My biggest gripe is lighting outside of Miami & the major urban areas.
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Why would you re-quote the entire graphic? lol

Thinking is nice I guess but you glossed over LA also being worse and Detroit being on par with Milwaukee. I'm not gonna play some transit goal post game, just pointing out you were obviously wrong, you can admit it.
I don't know if you realize it or not, but your own graphic just validated the point I was making. But if you think you scored a pointed, that's okay. Congrats.
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2019, 4:45 PM
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As has been stated in this thread, northern roads tend to be generally poorer condition due to inclement winter weather... but... what's Oklahoma's excuse, I wonder?
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2019, 4:48 PM
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Totally anecdotal, but the worst roads I've ever driven on were in Canton, OH. Seemingly every other block had massive potholes that could seriously damage your car.

The worst roads I've ever observed (but didn't drive on) were in New Orleans. In fact, the road quality was so bad there, it made using their bike share system extremely unpleasant. Sidewalks there were also pretty terrible. I'd hate to be a disabled person in NOLA!
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2019, 4:56 PM
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As has been stated in this thread, northern roads tend to be generally poorer condition due to inclement winter weather... but... what's Oklahoma's excuse, I wonder?
Oklahoma has bad roads? Maybe it's their anti Government spending stance = Socialism?
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