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Old Posted Feb 4, 2011, 11:58 PM
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Shit, I didn't realize city populations were coming out so soon.
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The census data releases so far have covered basic data for five states - Louisiana, Mississippi, New Jersey, and Virginia. You can read the summaries in .xls format:

Louisiana

Mississippi

New Jersey

Virginia

For example, here is what New Jersey's summary table has to say about the state's 20 largest cities as of the 2010 count:

1 (2010 rank) 1 (2000 rank) Newark city……………………………………………….. 273,546 (2000 population) 277,140 (2010 population) 3,594 (Change) 1.3 (Percentage change)

2. 2. Jersey City city…………………………………………….. 240,055 • 247,597 • 7,542 • 3.1

3. 3. Paterson city………………………...……………………. 149,222 • 146,199 • -3,023 • -2.0

4. 4. Elizabeth city……………………………………………. 120,568 • 124,969 • 4,401 • 3.7

5. 5. Edison township (Middlesex County)……………………. 97,687 • 99,967 • 2,280 • 2.3

6. 6. Woodbridge township (Middlesex County)……………………………. 97,203 • 99,585 • 2,382 • 2.5

7. 22. Lakewood township (Ocean County)……………………… 60,352 • 92,843 • 32,491 • 53.8

8. 7. Toms River township (Ocean County) 2………………………………….. 89,706 • 91,239 • 1,533 • 1.7

9. 8. Hamilton township (Mercer County)…………………….. 87,109 • 88,464 • 1,355 • 1.6

10. 9. Trenton city……………………………………………….. 85,403 • 84,913 • -490 • -0.6

11. 11. Clifton city………………………………..………………….. 78,672 • 84,136 • 5,464 • 6.9

12. 10. Camden city……………………………………………….. 79,904 • 77,344 • -2,560 • -3.2

13. 12. Brick township (Ocean County)………………………….. 76,119 • 75,072 • -1,047 • -1.4

14. 13. Cherry Hill township (Camden County)……………………. 69,965 • 71,045 • 1,080 • 1.5

15. 15. Passaic city…………………………………………….. 67,861 • 69,781 • 1,920 • 2.8

16. 17. Middletown township (Monmouth County)………………… 66,327 • 66,522 • 195 • 0.3

17. 16. Union City city…………………………………………… 67,088 • 66,455 • -633 • -0.9

18. 21. Old Bridge township (Middlesex County)……………… 60,456 • 65,375 • 4,919 • 8.1

19. 18. Gloucester township (Camden County)………………… 64,350 • 64,634 • 284 • 0.4

20. 14. East Orange city………………………………………….. 69,824 • 64,270 • -5,554 • -8.0

Now, if you want the bulky, tract-level data, you can download the files from the FTP folder for each state:

2010 Census FTP site
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Well, I wonder why he contradicted himself. He held California up as an example of policy retarding growth, except California posted one of the highest growths of population in the country.
You didn't read it correctly.

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A rich body of research shows that regulation, which is intense in the Northeast and California but lax in the Sun Belt, explains why housing is supplied so readily down South. The future shape of America is being driven not by quality of life or economic success but by the obscure rules regulating local land use.
What he's saying is that massive housing supply in the sunbelt states, driven by lax regulations, is driving growth.
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This is what we all have been waiting for and it will fill our discussions here for some time to come just analyzing all this forthcoming information. Ten years of seeing changes in our cities firsthand all culminates in this official tally, as someone who actually worked for the census here in Chicago I have personal feelings about this on several levels. Every city has had an official population for ten years now and this information will stamp an official number on our cities for another ten years. Exciting times.
You dont want to reveal those personal feelings???
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Outside the west? The west owes its very existence to minorities! California has been losing its natural born white population for decades.
There are 10 other states. Washington for example grew its non-Hispanic white population 2000-2009 per Census estimate, even while all the other primary racial categories grew more quickly.
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You dont want to reveal those personal feelings???
Well it should be obvious, Chicago is my hometown and I care about it deeply. I have witnessed unprecedented gentrification and housing construction in the past 10 years and I am very curious as to how this impacted city-wide population growth. I am sure the there will be population growth but part of me fears it might be smaller than what I originally thought only because the Illinois population growth was only 3.3%, in the 1990's the city of Chicago growth rate alone was 4% whereas Illinois was 9%. Is it possible that the city of Chicago had a higher % population increase in the 2000's than Illinois as a whole? It is possible I think since NYC has a higher growth rate than NYS, it would be the first time since 1920 I think that Chicago had higher % growth than Illinois as a whole. It is possible that the city of Chicago's growth rate is about the same as the state average, the suburbs were above the average and downstate was below average, even a population loss.
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I know this kind of talk is annoying, but:

I hope to see LA above 4 Million, because if it isn't, then I have to believe something is wrong here.
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Well it should be obvious, Chicago is my hometown and I care about it deeply. I have witnessed unprecedented gentrification and housing construction in the past 10 years and I am very curious as to how this impacted city-wide population growth. I am sure the there will be population growth but part of me fears it might be smaller than what I originally thought only because the Illinois population growth was only 3.3%, in the 1990's the city of Chicago growth rate alone was 4% whereas Illinois was 9%. Is it possible that the city of Chicago had a higher % population increase in the 2000's than Illinois as a whole? It is possible I think since NYC has a higher growth rate than NYS, it would be the first time since 1920 I think that Chicago had higher % growth than Illinois as a whole. It is possible that the city of Chicago's growth rate is about the same as the state average, the suburbs were above the average and downstate was below average, even a population loss.
I wouldn’t hold my breath—one of the big demographic stories was an outflux of poorer, usually black, citizens from the city proper to southern suburbs like Harvey, or even out of the metropolitan area altogether to places like Danville. Word is that the South Side and South Cook will probably lose some representation at the state and federal levels.
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I know this kind of talk is annoying, but:

I hope to see LA above 4 Million, because if it isn't, then I have to believe something is wrong here.
Even if it's not the actual population is well in excess of 4mil due the influx of undocumented immigrants.
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Wow I'm quite surprised to see that Shreveport actually lost residents!! Even with the massive growth of the casino industry and an assumed influx of Katrina evacuees!! Very interesting.
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Congratulations, USA. You are only a billion people behind China.
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Congratulations, CANADA. You are collectively almost the size of Tokyo.
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Congratulations, USA. You are only a billion people behind China.
Holy crap, could you imagine if America had 1.3 billion people? It would be endless cookie cutter housing tracts and wal marts from sea to shining sea, it would be terrible Oh wait...

Anyways, Im anxious to see how Little Rock did population wise and to see how gentrification effected or affected some of the hoods of North Little Rock and south Little Rock around Central High School.

Remember those maps that guy did on flickr that had ethnicity mapped out by dots in pretty much every major city in the US? I wish I could find the thread that had those maps in it but hopefully that same guy does a 2010 version, to see how white cities have gotten and how black and latino populations have shifted in 10 years.
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For Iowa, I'm very curious about a couple things:

1. How did the floods of '08 affect Cedar Rapids' population? Did the displaced stay in CR or move elsewhere?

2. Is the rapid growth in Johnson County almost entirely in Coralville and North Liberty or has Iowa City proper managed to snag some of the growth?

3. Will Des Moines gain or lose in the city limits?
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Holy crap, could you imagine if America had 1.3 billion people? It would be endless cookie cutter housing tracts and wal marts from sea to shining sea, it would be terrible Oh wait...
On, the bright side, we'd have a WHOLE lot more urban Wal-Marts.
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For Iowa, I'm very curious about a couple things:

1. How did the floods of '08 affect Cedar Rapids' population? Did the displaced stay in CR or move elsewhere?

2. Is the rapid growth in Johnson County almost entirely in Coralville and North Liberty or has Iowa City proper managed to snag some of the growth?

3. Will Des Moines gain or lose in the city limits?




Just to let you know Iowa is one of the oldest states when it comes to population.

Yes they have great HS's and upper education but....


Um reading the Crain’s Chicago Business that I cannot link to because they threatened a lawsuit years ago state that Iowa in the next 10-20 years will lose population due to the fact that it is a state that has one of the largest segment of population over 65. There are like 9/per year people that will exceed the age of 65 living in Iowa vs. very newborn every year.

Aha screw Cran's here is a map image.... http://www.chicagobusiness.com/artic...#axzz1DCp267qH

Iowa in the next 20 years could actually lose population that they gained in the last 20 years because of the graying of the USA.


Iowa worked hard to break the 3 M mark. In ten to 20 years there population would look like it was in the 1930's-40's for not fault of their own.

. The simple point is is that Iowa like other advanced countries cannot replace the 2.28 babies per family born every year to replace those that have left the state for greener grass and any immigrents needed are not enough to offset the losses that will be seen in the future.


But Hey things are not all that bad if you live in Iowa, Japan has lived with a negative growth rate for almost a generation,Even China will have to deal with in the next 20-40 years due to their one child policy, the EU has for decades....


Less cost on infrastructure and more monies put in to the great education system that Iowa is famous for.... So there is no reason to be worried about long term future trends in population.

Des Moines, Iowa City, CR and the Quad will be just fine in the next long term outlook IMO.







I would not fret it though. Iowa has good schools and Universities that help the state out for the time that they are there but clearly they move back to the cities of their origin after their degree. Both Iowa City and Des Moines markets are saturated with medical professionals that have to leave the state post graduation because of the small population base and competition from the graduation pool that pours into the state from, esp. Illinois because the Illinois state schools do not have the structural capacity to handle all of the new HS grads. They have to go somewhere and well they go to Iowa, Wisc, IN, MI... you get my drift..



Iowa is cool I lived in Des Moines for 5.5 years but it is not a place to make money if you are a professional graduate in the health sector.






On a side note based on that Crain's article it will be at least 3 years before new housing construction re establish itself in these parts....

All of the foreclosures will keep the average home price down for the next 2.5 years and those that work in the construction industry I am empathic for your plight.

Good thing that Obama and congress extended unemployment before the 2010 general elections, otherwise 3 out of 4 union plumbers in my close family could not pay their mortgage and if the GoP got what they really want then the foreclosures would quadruple and the general economy, and the housing industry would not balance until 5-10 years which is exactly what they want.


The right wants Obama and by extension the USA to fail to try to wrest the POTUS from the Dems.

Frankly I truly believe that Obama and Chicagoland will rule the Union that is the USA for the next 5.5 years.... Tea strings abort and deny all you want but this is a prediction I am making now....


See yall southerners in 2016. Ps reading the map the national average was 0.4.

Illinois came in at 0.9, not to bad when you consider Ohio that is in a factor of Ohio=4.3 and the insane number out of Iowa that is at the bottom 50 states..

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The Interdependence of Land Use and Transportation


February 5th, 2011

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Read More: http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2...ransportation/

Virginia 2010 Census: http://2010.census.gov/news/releases...cb11-cn16.html

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Northern Virginia’s growth patterns demonstrate the degree to which transit can play an essential role in spurring inner-city growth. There is little need for data to demonstrate just how important the Washington Metrorail system has been for Arlington, Virginia’s growth over the past few decades. Visit anywhere along the Rosslyn-Ballston Corridor or in Crystal City — the two areas best served by Metro — and you’ll see dozens of new residential and office buildings lining the street.

But new information from Census 2010 provides empirical confirmation of the significance of land use planning around Metro stations in influencing the growth of Arlington and other places in Northern Virginia. Over the last ten years, Arlington County’s growth has been overwhelmingly concentrated along the Metro corridors, as has growth in Alexandria and some parts of Fairfax County. The densification of these areas is effectively extending the inner-city core of the Washington, D.C. region and substituting sprawling development in the exurbs with dense construction. This represents a change in trends compared to the period between 1990 and 2000.

The areas of Northern Virginia that saw the greatest percentage growth between 2000 and 2010 were all clustered around Metro stations — in Arlington along the Rosslyn-Ballston Corridor (Orange Line) and in Crystal City (Yellow and Blue Lines); in Alexandria near Van Dorn Street Station (Blue Line) and Eisenhower Avenue (Yellow Line); and in Fairfax County near Vienna/Fairfax Station (Orange Line). As other areas of close-in Virginia have been fully developed, these station area zones have densified through the coordinated planning decisions of city officials, the availability of rail rapid transit, funds from developers, and a clear interest of a large portion of the population to inhabit the new buildings.

In the case of the Rosslyn-Ballston Corridor, the Census Blocks within closest proximity of the five Metro stations along the Orange Line absorbed more than 70% of Arlington County’s growth, increasing by 12,816 people compared to Arlington’s expansion by 18,174 people towards a total population of 207,627. These 1.47 square miles arrayed linearly — a small percentage of Arlington’s 26 square miles — now represent more than 17% of the county’s population, compared to about 12% in 2000.

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What effect has this localized growth had on the face of the region in general? Let’s compare Arlington to an exurban locale that has been recently developed.






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Maryland is out

The Maryland files do not appear to be on the FTP site yet, but the press release states that the city of Baltimore is at 620,961, a decrease of 4.6%.

Several other states are due out tomorrow, and next week we get two biggies: Illinois and Texas.
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