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Old Posted Feb 16, 2012, 11:53 PM
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Didn't the city raise the height limit in SLU for a few of Amazon's buildings there? Maybe their increasing weight will allow them to push the height in that area a bit. I would love to see at least one ~700-800 footer in that cluster, but I question what kind of stink that would raise for folks losing a sliver of their view of the sound from Capitol Hill. Actually, 500 will probably do that anyway.
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Didn't the city raise the height limit in SLU for a few of Amazon's buildings there? Maybe their increasing weight will allow them to push the height in that area a bit. I would love to see at least one ~700-800 footer in that cluster, but I question what kind of stink that would raise for folks losing a sliver of their view of the sound from Capitol Hill. Actually, 500 will probably do that anyway.
Yes, 500 feet would do that for some sites on the lower west slopes of Capitol and First Hills. Some owners on the higher streets might fuss at 600+ heights. There might be less fuss if people feel they're getting stunning tower designs and public amenities.
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2012, 12:57 AM
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If they ask to go taller, I'd love to see it.

Eventually the Denny Triangle will be CBD-proper rather than on its edge. It's ok to embrace that.
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2012, 3:16 AM
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I would also love to hear some perspective on whether or not the SLU street car path influenced this buy. It would(will?) serve as a nice little link between the two nodes of their campus. It'd serve very well in the case to further push our mass transit if it had anything to do with it.
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I would also love to hear some perspective on whether or not the SLU street car path influenced this buy. It would(will?) serve as a nice little link between the two nodes of their campus. It'd serve very well in the case to further push our mass transit if it had anything to do with it.
If I were a decision-maker I would choose a site that has a connection to my current site (a door or two away or by transportation).

If the closest sites don't give the square footage needed and anything else would require heavy walking or company transportation then it's an easy decision. Go for the nearest site connected by existing transit that offers the space you want. I can't say for a fact that this was the case but I think it's highly possible.
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agreed! That streetcar is going to be much more heavily used methinks. 3 million SF of office space will support thousands of workers. That part of downtown will be bustling! I won't be surprised if a few more dormant housing projects come back to life close by.
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I'd like to meet the schmuck that would try to go toe to toe with Amazon over lost sound views.
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If it happened, it would be a group of wealthy property owners finding a supportive city council member or threatening the mayor. Something linked with elections I'm guessing.

Almost anything that includes more housing to alleviate the housing shortage that causes the too high prices is a good thing. I hear that Amazon is applying for planned community status in which case they'd be giving money to the city for city's interests in exchange for something that it (Amazon) wants to do on the sites. Can't wait to see how this develops.
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If it happened, it would be a group of wealthy property owners finding a supportive city council member or threatening the mayor. Something linked with elections I'm guessing.

Almost anything that includes more housing to alleviate the housing shortage that causes the too high prices is a good thing. I hear that Amazon is applying for planned community status in which case they'd be giving money to the city for city's interests in exchange for something that it (Amazon) wants to do on the sites. Can't wait to see how this develops.
My guess is they put a few million into the affordable housing fund as well as use some of one site as public space.
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That, or they're entering real estate. Actually I'd love for them to do this whatever the reason. It would be a great thing even if it just lures tenants from some of those 1950s/60s mid-rise office buildings so we can convert those to residential.

I suspect this is just a purchase and any construction might be years away.
I suspect you're right. I think he's trying to control the area that will act as the link between SLU and DT.
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2012, 9:21 PM
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I would also love to hear some perspective on whether or not the SLU street car path influenced this buy. It would(will?) serve as a nice little link between the two nodes of their campus. It'd serve very well in the case to further push our mass transit if it had anything to do with it.
I would like to know what's going on in Bezos's head.
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2012, 9:25 PM
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Did you all see this article?

Arena or Amazon: Does Seattle know what's important?

It's easy for us to be swept up in the emotions around bringing back a sport that was stolen away. But consider the almost-ignored Amazon deal to get a handle on what really matters to our future and our economy.


http://crosscut.com/2012/02/20/real-...-s-important-/
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2012, 4:51 AM
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I have to agree with Selig.........this residential bldg boom is turning into a frenzy.

Selig now plans short office building near Sculpture Park

Developer Martin Selig says he's backed away from plans for an 8-story apartment building on the site because the frenzy of multifamily construction "scares me."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...8_selig27.html
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I have to agree with Selig.........this residential bldg boom is turning into a frenzy.

Selig now plans short office building near Sculpture Park

Developer Martin Selig says he's backed away from plans for an 8-story apartment building on the site because the frenzy of multifamily construction "scares me."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...8_selig27.html
Well I for one was scared that he was going to be able to put up that ugly uninspired rectangle of a building right next to the sculpture park. He needs to come with something FAR more creative whatever he finally decides to do.
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I have to agree with Selig.........this residential bldg boom is turning into a frenzy.

Selig now plans short office building near Sculpture Park

Developer Martin Selig says he's backed away from plans for an 8-story apartment building on the site because the frenzy of multifamily construction "scares me."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...8_selig27.html
Not that it's that bad to overbuild, renters could use some relief!
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2012, 9:26 PM
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Another shot of 1200 Madison... er... "Coppins Well" in context.


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Sounds like 815 Pine, another large apartment tower is coming back to life!

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...nthpine28.html



project website: http://www.bumgardner.biz/projects/the-815-pine-tower/
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Old Posted Feb 29, 2012, 12:09 AM
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They should change the glass color to sea-foam green. Will help the buildings in that area appear less like members in a family photo trying to compliment/match each other in a hokey way.
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Amazon expansion: 4 designs, 37-story towers and a waterway?

by Jeanne Lang Jones on Wednesday, February 29, 2012, 7:05am PST

As seen from the rooftop of the Denny Building, the portion of the Denny Triangle bordered by Sixth Avenue, Blanchard Street and Westlake Avenue would be transformed by Amazon.com's plans to build three office towers. (Anthony Bolante photo)

Early designs for Amazon.com's proposed 3-million-square-foot expansion in Seattle's Denny Triangle show four possible designs, all of them featuring towers as tall as 37 stories.

Amazon is proposing to develop the property, on a wedge-shaped tract north of downtown, in three phases, with each full block providing about one million square feet of office space and about 1,100 underground parking stalls.

The early design packet submitted late Monday by Seneca Real Estate Group Inc. and architecture firm NBBJ includes several potential amenities. One possibility is an "awareness garden" featuring storm-water management waterways flowing alongside the walkways. Another is a neighborhood walking/jogging trail leading to a public square resembling Westlake Plaza; the plaza would be located near the intersection of 7th Avenue and Lenora Street.

These initial draft designs likely will be tweaked before a March 27 public design-review meeting — an early step in the approval process.

The tract, which the Seattle-based online retailer is buying from longtime Seattle landowner Clise Properties, is bordered by Westlake Avenue, Sixth Avenue and Blanchard Street.

The simplest master plan would put two office towers on each of the three blocks. Alleys would remain in place with office buildings on either side. While this design is the easiest of the four to get permits for and the fastest to build, it has some significant drawbacks.

Office windows across the mid-block alleys would face directly into each other. The narrow half-block sites would restrict building design — resulting in six buildings that would be very similar. Also, Amazon would not be able to build a proposed 40,000-square-foot auditorium with seating for 2,000.

Each of the three other master plans would eliminate mid-block alleys, allowing a single T-shaped, L-shaped or Z-shaped building to be constructed on each site. The designs would allow for public open spaces on each of the blocks, with an auditorium located adjacent to Lenora Street between 6th and 7th avenues. Retail spaces on the ground floors would face 7th Avenue and large public open spaces.

The other alternatives propose different alignments for the buildings. In the second alternative, known as the City Street Scheme, the office buildings would be aligned perpendicular to the numbered avenues. In a third alternative known as the Westlake Scheme, two of the buildings would be oriented toward Westlake Avenue while the third building would be turned 45 degrees so that its length would run along a true east/west axis.

The fourth alternative, called Preferred Scheme, would have the two towers between 6th and 7th avenues sitting perpendicular to 7th Avenue with the third tower between 7th and 8th avenues running perpendicular to 7th Avenue.

Compared to the first alternative, the second, third and fourth possible designs afford better views of Puget Sound and Olympic Mountains to the west; the third and fourth alternatives permit more sunshine at street level. The second design alternative provides the most efficient layout for the underground parking – as much as six levels – provided in each building.

Some of the designs would require city planners to allow departures from the city's development standards. For example, several of the proposed small public open spaces would require exemptions from rules for building facades.

http://www.techflash.com/seattle/201...designs-4.html
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Old Posted Feb 29, 2012, 7:15 PM
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Not that it's that bad to overbuild, renters could use some relief!
Don't disagree and with 6000 units under construction, I suspect renter relief is very likely.
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