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Old Posted Jul 19, 2022, 3:17 PM
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1345 Baseline Road | 83/89/96 m | 26/28/30 fl | Proposed

New redevelopment proposal for a three-tower residential complex at the former Scouts Canada building on Baseline Road.

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Old Posted Jul 19, 2022, 3:34 PM
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Badly needed. I support - however they better keep the Totem pole there post-dev
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Old Posted Jul 19, 2022, 3:37 PM
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Obviously the design is preliminary, but it is very promising to see density in a decently walkable location.
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Old Posted Jul 19, 2022, 3:39 PM
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Badly needed. I support - however they better keep the Totem pole there post-dev
What is the history behind the Totem Pole? Was it a gift?

EDIT: I found the answer to my own question.
https://heritageottawa.org/fr/node/1541
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Old Posted Jul 19, 2022, 3:48 PM
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Badly needed. I support - however they better keep the Totem pole there post-dev
from the planning rationale:
As part of the proposed rezoning and future redevelopment of the site, Scouts would like to see the totem
pole removed and restored in a culturally appropriate way. Given the heritage value and the family’s
wishes that the totem pole remain in a public space to be enjoyed by all, Scouts would look to work with
the city and/or purchaser of the property to have the totem pole reinstalled on site, either in the proposed
public park space or as part of a future redevelopment.
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Old Posted Jul 19, 2022, 3:50 PM
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I can get behind this. More density and scale on major corridors.
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What percentage of the proposed highrise design market does RLA have in Ottawa now? 60%? 70%? More?!? I guess it's easy to pump out cheap work when there is zero creativity and mostly copy and paste.

It will be really neat seeing this skyline popping up over the Carlington escarpment as you drive by on the Queensway if these projects are built. I'm pretty sure the WalmartView Apartments at Baseline/Clyde will be visible, because the cranes certainly are.
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Would definitely support the redevelopment and added density. Coupled with the nearby projects (and the large multi-phase one across the street in that Baseline/Merivale/Clyde diamond) this has the potential to create a nice little high density hub at the Baseline / Merivale intersection.

But for the love of god, can we get a decent design AND more varying heights it it's going to be 3 towers? What about 34fl, 28fl and 22fl? Same total number of floors & units, just more variety.
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Good density. The site plan is way too vehicle oriented in my opinion.
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18/28 floor RLA Copypastes approved half a block away, 26/28/30 floor RLA Copypastes here. This will be a lot like Lahey City in Vanier if it all gets built.

Idea: In the spirit of the dearly departed Shoppers City East and Shoppers City West, we should name this one Lahey City West and the sea of RLA buildings going up in Vanier can be Lahey City East.
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Old Posted Jul 19, 2022, 8:37 PM
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Good density. The site plan is way too vehicle oriented in my opinion.
Meh, the minimum parking requirements is 584 parking spaces and the maximum is 1775. The proposal is to have 748 (for 1,014 units, plus visitors, plus commercial), which is about 28% more than the minimum, 42% of the maximum, and 74% of units (assuming no visitor and commercial spaces). Sure they could cut back on the parking a bit, but until Baseline BRT gets built, transit options aren't all that great.
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Old Posted Jul 19, 2022, 9:36 PM
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Scouts Canada no longer requires the site at 1345 Baseline Road and its existing office and retail building, and their intent is to explore sale and partnership options as part of their corporate strategy so that the value of the site can be utilized to support other areas of their not-for-profit services, programing, and infrastructure.

The concept site plan consists of three high-rise buildings in the form of podiums (four storeys) and point towers (26, 28 & 30 storeys) oriented along the perimeter of the site. The single building fronting Baseline Road will be mixed-use whereas the other two buildings are designed solely for residential use, with all three buildings providing unit types ranging from studios to three bedrooms (tenure to be rental/condo). Indoor amenity space will be provided as private (balconies) and communal spaces (primarily at grade). Parking, storage lockers, utilities, and waste storage is provided on three below-grade levels serving all three buildings, and provides vehicle access from two separate ramps out of sight from the public realm. The mixed-use building consists of primarily ground floor commercial uses oriented towards the street to support the streetscape objectives of active frontage and a well-animated public realm.

Vehicle access to the site is provided by two separate entrances, one from Baseline Road providing right-in and right-out movements, and a second at the site’s northwest corner coming from the drive aisle associated with the Laurentian Place shopping centre. The site’s accesses connect through an internal network of drive aisles providing convenient circulation for residents, visitors, deliveries, waste collection, and emergency services. The internal drive aisles form a central green space intended to be landscaped and animated for resident use.


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Old Posted Jul 20, 2022, 12:56 PM
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Meh, the minimum parking requirements is 584 parking spaces and the maximum is 1775. The proposal is to have 748 (for 1,014 units, plus visitors, plus commercial), which is about 28% more than the minimum, 42% of the maximum, and 74% of units (assuming no visitor and commercial spaces). Sure they could cut back on the parking a bit, but until Baseline BRT gets built, transit options aren't all that great.
I was less talking about the number of parking spots and more about the design of the actual site. It's three high-rise buildings surrounding a vehicle roundabout. Who would actually spend time in this central space just sucking in vehicle exhaust?

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Old Posted Jul 21, 2022, 12:43 AM
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Scouts Canada proposes to redevelop Baseline HQ, but needs help restoring landmark totem pole
The proposed redevelopment calls for towers with heights of 26, 28 and 30 storeys.

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Jul 20, 2022 • 4 minutes ago • 2 minute read




Scouts Canada wants to redevelop its national headquarters on Baseline Road with three tall towers, but it’s still deciding what to do about its landmark feature in the front yard.

A planning rationale filed recently at city hall says the totem pole, created by renowned Indigenous carver Chief Mungo Martin, has been there since 1961. It was commissioned by the British Columbia government and gifted to the Scouts to celebrate the new headquarters at 1345 Baseline Rd., the application says.

According to the Scouts, the totem pole needs restoration, but the organization failed to secure federal grants as part of the Canada 150th anniversary infrastructure program. The Scouts have been in contact with Martin’s family about the restoration and the organization is accepting proposals for the work.

The organization wants the totem pole to be restored “in a culturally appropriate way,” the planning rationale says.

“Given the heritage value and the family’s wishes that the totem pole remain in a public space to be enjoyed by all, Scouts would look to work with the city and/or purchaser of the property to have the totem pole reinstalled on site, either in the proposed public park space or as part of a future redevelopment,” the document says.

The proposed redevelopment calls for towers with heights of 26, 28 and 30 storeys. Two of the towers would contain residential units and the third tower fronting Baseline Road would be mixed-use.

All three buildings would have a range of residential unit types up to three bedrooms, according to the plans. There would be a total of 952 residential units and 748 parking spaces in an underground parking garage.

A council-approved zoning bylaw amendment will be required at a future meeting.

Kayleigh Kanoza, director of change and strategy for Scouts Canada, said there had been a shift in the way the organization operated that made it reflect on the future of the property.

“Over the last number of years, Scouts Canada has progressed work to better leverage our properties in support of our mission and adventures for Canadian youth,” Kanoza said in an email.

“With the shift to remote work, a move to online retail, and the transformation of the neighbourhood surrounding our Ottawa office, we have identified an opportunity to seek out a partner to redevelop or purchase our National Service Centre at 1345 Baseline Rd. We intend to remain in Ottawa and are looking to prioritize program space for our youth members, which could also provide space for our staff and volunteers to collaborate.”

In a letter sent to Scout members in January, the organization’s leaders pointed out that the Baseline Road headquarters had been there for about 60 years, but the Nepean community around it had changed dramatically. “The city has grown around us,” the leaders said.

The Scouts’ new strategic plan calls for the organization to “unlock the value of our assets” to increase revenue.

Like many intensification projects in Ottawa, the one eyed for the Scouts property is closely tied to the city’s future expansion of rapid transit. The city wants to focus intensification along rapid transit and Baseline Road is on the books to have bus rapid transit lanes. The totem pole needs to be relocated from its current location because of the future transit plans.

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