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Old Posted Feb 5, 2012, 8:06 AM
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^ So how come the Barclay Vesey Building didn't collapse? How come 90 West Street (94 year old building on 9/11) didn't collapse?
These were built with masonry protecting structural steel. Hence why they did not collapse. They may not have collapsed, but they were sure damaged significantly (the entire interior of 90 West Street was destroyed by fire, whereas the Verizon Building suffered significant damage to it's east and southern façades from the collapses of 1 and 7 WTC, to the tune of $1.2 Billion.)

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How come nothing but minor damage occurred to the WFC? How come the Century 21 Building didn't collapse? How come 1 Liberty Plaza didn't collapse? How come the Winter Garden (which is basically a hollow glass atrium) didn't collapse? How come the Millennium Hotel didn't collapse?
Too far away for significant damage to have occurred. These buildings were, however, showered by concrete and debris and were still damaged nonetheless. And it wasn't minor damage to the WFC; WFC3 (pyramid top) required shoring as several perimeter columns were damaged by the collapse of the North Tower.

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How come the U.S Post Office Building didn't collapse?
Same reason 90 West and Barclay-Vesey didn't collapse. Masonry protecting structural steel. Plus it was too far away from the towers to be damaged by falling steel.

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Even the Deutsche Bank Building and Fiterman Hall didn't collapse (but were deconstructed).
Yes, but those buildings were not repairable after the attack (well, the Deutsche Bank building probably was). They were both heavily contaminated by debris and were subsequently written off.
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2012, 3:50 PM
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Stop while you're ahead please.
He lost a while ago. Now he's just digging his hole even deeper.
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2012, 7:17 PM
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2012, 7:22 PM
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You understand that all of those buildings have very different structural systems and thus have very different reactions when hit right? Particularly when factoring in distance?

It's not rocket science.

Peddle your conspiracy theories somewhere else.
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2012, 8:01 PM
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Hey ... Stop being stupid.
Try following some of your own advice. You have been presented with numerous replies which explained your question, yet you seem incapable of actually comprehending what you've been told.

There was a lot of fuel for the generators in WTC7 which caught fire and contributed to its collapse. If you don't like the facts, and/or are too intellectually challenged, go elsewhere with your ignorance.
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2012, 8:25 PM
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^ The diesel fuel was stored in the basement UNDERGROUND. Fuel components were located from floors 1-8. Fire was above all these floors. Even if the GIANT inferno (in reality small scattered fires), were to touch the fuel, they would only burn so much hotter. A few hundred degrees more if that. Please use knowledge.
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2012, 9:34 PM
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^ (in reality small scattered fires)
http://www.911myths.com/WTC7_Smoke.avi

Just watch that, the whole south side of the building is on fire, not "a few scattered fires". I doubt this will sway you because you've already made up your mind, if you are indeed asking questions to hear answers you don't know then that is why this forum is here, but if your goal is to reaffirm your own beliefs about what happened then get out you troll. I dislike reading your posts in every wtc related thread, you seem to have very little to offer and now appear to be a bit of a bigot and a jerk listening to your most recent posts, please post less, or just be a quiet observer of the forum, others would appreciate it.
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2012, 9:48 PM
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^ It seems YOU have a lot to offer DON'T you.

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Old Posted Feb 5, 2012, 10:07 PM
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http://www.911myths.com/WTC7_Smoke.avi

Just watch that, the whole south side of the building is on fire, not "a few scattered fires". I doubt this will sway you because you've already made up your mind, if you are indeed asking questions to hear answers you don't know then that is why this forum is here, but if your goal is to reaffirm your own beliefs about what happened then get out you troll. I dislike reading your posts in every wtc related thread, you seem to have very little to offer and now appear to be a bit of a bigot and a jerk listening to your most recent posts, please post less, or just be a quiet observer of the forum, others would appreciate it.
Well said. This troll has no concept of reality and would do this forum a great favour if he listened and accepted the fact his narrow-minded view is totally erroneous.
You have summed him up well.
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Big Apple,just watch this and choose what you want to believe yourself so that this thread doesn't get closed and you don't get banned again.


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Old Posted Jul 6, 2012, 4:11 AM
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This was a very beautiful, yet overlooked, and underrated tower.

It's an utter shame that this building has become notorious for being associated with ridiculous conspiracy theories that could be debunked by a 5 year old. It doesn't deserve such a cruel fate.
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Damn right it didn't deserve that!
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Here's a little something I found on somebody's blog, it's called The Song of 7 World Trade:
THE SONG OF 7 WORLD TRADE

Cry for me, my city, my street;

Cry for me.

For now in this dusk, this dust, this heat,

I cannot feel my feet, and

I grow weak.

They are gone, my giant sibling twins,

Gone with a vengeful ire,

Having given way to Gravity, and Fire.

Who shall now uphold the sky?

Who shall keep eye on that farthest horizon?

Shall these tasks fall to me? So much their lesser,

I admit: it cannot be.

Cry with me, then, my city, my street,

I am now but a shell of sorrows,

Hollow of spirit, full of ghosts and grief.

Thus forty-seven stories now complete, and

Even I could not foresee

This ending.

Though the tale was told twice today already:

In steel and stone, glass and concrete,

Flesh and bone.

Fifty thousand footfalls where now there are none.

My time is come; I am undone.

My heart is broken.

My back is broken,

And I cannot feel my feet;

I am fifty thousand sorrows
As twilight falls, falls like me.
Cry, cry for my memory, my city, my street.

K. Pfeiffer
Upper West Side, Manhattan

The rest of the blog page can be found here:
http://www.vanadia.com/nycstories/91...es/k_pfeiffer/
I had to repost this. This is great.
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Old Posted Jun 20, 2013, 3:47 AM
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Salomon Brothers Trading Floor, 46th/47th floor, circa 1987.



Some rare pictures of 7WTC under construction, circa 1983-1985.













Found on the unofficial WTC Facebook page located here.
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Thanks for posting those construction photos, have not been able to find anything close for some time now.
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Site Photos Show Progress at World Trade Center Site

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The massive redevelopment of the World Trade Center site in New York City is one of the most exciting projects under construction in the United States. The new complex is bringing six skyscrapers to the Lower Manhattan location, a venture made possible by a multitude of developers, engineers, builders and architects. On a recent trip to New York, SkyriseCities navigated the area and witnessed firsthand how the development is reshaping the neighbourhood.


One and 7 World Trade Center, image by Edward Skira
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You're looking for this thread: 7 World Trade Center | 751 FT / 229 M | 52 FLOORS | 2006

This one is for the original 7 WTC, 1987-2001.
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