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Old Posted Jul 11, 2010, 1:18 AM
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Yeah, I was gonna say...
I'm not surprised it went over certain people's heads. This thread is hardly intellectual.
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I am totally serious. Art is part of architecture, but architecture is not art. That difference is absolutely essential.
I suggest that existence is itself a form of artistic expression. Thus even the simplest housing constructed for the sole purpose of protecting its inhabitant from the elements is reflective of rational philosophy.

Anything that employs the process of changing matter from one form into a more advanced form is art. Inasmuch as our existence is itself an ongoing phase of evolution and gradual progressive change, we and all that we do, including architecture, is art. The two cannot be separated.
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This thread is *full* of temples and other grand buildings. I think it would be better with some more everyday buildings.

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I suggest that existence is itself a form of artistic expression.
I don't necessarily disagree if we're being philosophical, but what does that mean in practice, when it comes time to actually design something? I think it is a major problem that the architecture profession is more interested in waxing poetic than in designing attractive and functional (and functionally urban) buildings. Whatever deeper meanings are imparted in buildings are absolutely meaningless if the building fails.
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65 East Goethe - the only Lagrange building that actually came out well.

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Old Posted Jul 13, 2010, 6:32 PM
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I think that's an interesting example that is worth posting.

To really qualify it would need better detailing and a different material for the cap, but nonetheless I think it's an attractive building.
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Tianjin Concert Hall, China

Tianjin Concert Hall is a new 650-seater concert hall built in a pastiche of classical European style in the heart of the city. It's located next to the Xiaobailou subway station on Line One and has limited underground parking. There are a number of restaurants, bars and cafes nearby.


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whoa, good find. it looks like a state capitol.

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Unfortunately.

Yale has an amazing architectural tradition, but the most recent residential colleges, Morse and Ezra Stiles, both designed by Eero Saarinen in a then ostensibly "progressive" style, weren't (and continue to not be) very well-received by students. The university has been much more conservative with many of its newer buildings (as opposed to, say, the University of Chicago, a peer institution which continues to push for truly progressive design). These new residential colleges unfortunately continue that vein. Even with Bob Stern at the helm of their design, I have a hard time envisioning them as anything more than simulacra of American collegiate gothic, which is already something of a simulacrum itself.
Every building is a simulacrum of some previous precedent, at least in some way. There's no shame in that, as styles and construction can't be fundamentally reinvented every single time a building goes up. What matters is whether the design is well done, with attention to detail and overall workability. If that is accomplished, why would emulating an old style be a problem?
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535 West End ave. came out pretty well for a Lagrange. Not great, but pretty well:

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Also, just for the hell of it, here's Takashimaya in NYC:




Soon to be turned into this:

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Old Posted Jul 15, 2010, 10:13 PM
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You know, the base of that building isn't bad. The first 5 floors or so are actually quite good. But that shaft is just terrible. Horribly, horribly out of proportion.

In any event, I think it's too po-mo to qualify.
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Some new buildings at Hendrix College in Conway Arkansas.











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The base of that building starts out nice, but like Cirrus said, past the first few floors the building just goes straight to hell. It's quite awful, really.

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Also, just for the hell of it, here's Takashimaya in NYC:

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This thread is *full* of temples and other grand buildings. I think it would be better with some more everyday buildings.

I don't necessarily disagree if we're being philosophical, but what does that mean in practice, when it comes time to actually design something? I think it is a major problem that the architecture profession is more interested in waxing poetic than in designing attractive and functional (and functionally urban) buildings. Whatever deeper meanings are imparted in buildings are absolutely meaningless if the building fails.
I totally agree with you on that. Architecture today is unfortunately based around the notion of expression and deeper meanings first, before an actually aesthetically pleasing design and style that actually works, which is wrong. If I were to design a building today, I would choose a style that works for the area, for instance art deco for new york, and try to bring originality and meaning to it from there as the next step.
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I stumbled upon these pictures of Beirut (Lebanon). Quite amazing
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Beirut is looking beautiful. Like Paris
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