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Old Posted Nov 30, 2007, 5:03 PM
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Lucky for you there's a brand-new Petsmart across the street from where the mall will be. My office is right next to it. Best view in the world!
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I don't make it out to Folsom much - will the mall be accessible by the
Gold Line? That would be nice.

In other news - the Raley's in South Land/Hollywood Park on Freeport Blvd.
is gearing up for a massive remodel and expansion project. They're already
presenting plans to the LPCA - I'm interested to see what comes of it. I think
the idea is to go big like we just saw Target do. I'm pretty sure they plan to
close it entirely, during construction, and move employees into other stores.
So it sounds big.
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Old Posted Nov 30, 2007, 5:22 PM
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Very cool TD... I like the way the store is now, but I'm intrested to see what they have planned.
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Old Posted Nov 30, 2007, 6:29 PM
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All I have to say is good luck getting the LPCA to accept that. I think it will much harder than Target was but I could be completely wrong. Is there really is a need for a larger Raley's in that neighborhood?
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Old Posted Nov 30, 2007, 6:46 PM
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All I have to say is good luck getting the LPCA
to accept that. I think it will much harder than Target was but I could be
completely wrong. Is there really is a need for a larger Raley's in that
neighborhood?
You know, the LPCA should actually be credited with what happened to the
Target. They were all up in Target's business as soon as they announced a
couple changes were coming to the store. And I mean changes, because
Target was not at all looking to completely overhaul the store. In fact, they
were going to remove the gardening center - LPCA fought that. They were
going to dress up the store a bit - LPCA came up with a host of
recommendations. I would presume LPCA got Councilman Fong involved,
and really made Target take a "big picture" look at their store, and the
result sounds awesome.

I think you can count on the same action/reaction to Raley's. The issue has
always been the nightmarish swath of parking that fronts the street. I'm
completely guessing here - but I would bet money that we'll see something
that addresses the street (Freeport). Something akin to Oto's, also on
Freeport, but on a much larger scale.

And to cite the recent Mercy expansion in relation to Raley's expansion -
obviously there's a need for a greater capacity... otherwise they simply
wouldn't do it.
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Old Posted Nov 30, 2007, 8:08 PM
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I don't make it out to Folsom much - will the mall be accessible by the
Gold Line? That would be nice.
No, unfortunately. The Gold Line runs into old town Folsom, where as this shopping center is near Hwy 50 near the El Dorado Co. line, almost the opposite corner of the city. Hurray for those parking garages!!!

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Is this where the new Elk Grove mall is being built?
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Is this where the new Elk Grove mall is being built?
It appears as if it is!
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Wonder if Westfield's pressure made the site be all the way down at Grant Line & 99?
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No that's where the mall has been planned at all along..
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I think your right Urban. This mall was probably in planning stages 10 years
ago when Florin Mall was still a somewhat functional mall and the developer
wanted to distanced the proposal so as to not compete with Florin Mall.
I don’t think the new mall had anything to worry about though.
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Old Posted Jan 2, 2008, 7:40 PM
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Part of the impetus in putting a mall on the south edge of town is that it increases the incentive to continue development south of the mall into open farm areas.
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Can we close this thread?
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Old Posted Jan 3, 2008, 2:54 AM
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Part of the impetus in putting a mall on the south edge of town is that it increases the incentive to continue development south of the mall into open farm areas.

Absolutely.

It's sad too because it flies smack in the face of the Blueprint for growth in that it will encourage the city of Elk Grove to push further South towards Galt.

That's part of the probelm of Balkizing every communtiy in the county into a separate municipality..
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Old Posted Jan 4, 2008, 4:23 AM
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I think your right Urban. This mall was probably in planning stages 10 years
ago when Florin Mall was still a somewhat functional mall and the developer
wanted to distanced the proposal so as to not compete with Florin Mall.
I don’t think the new mall had anything to worry about though.
This is why Elk Grove incorporated......Sac County had voted No to this mall.
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Old Posted Jan 11, 2008, 6:53 PM
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It appears that there is more going on in Rancho Cordova than just the
Point East Towers. There is also a Westborough Station proposal that is
still only in the concept and planning stages. The Point East Towers still
need to provide additional information and is on hold until that
information is received.

http://www.planning.saccounty.net/ta...w-Complete.pdf

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Old Posted Jan 15, 2008, 9:12 PM
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Man, I'd hate to have bought a home in Natomas and be living there now...
this will make it even tougher for those tring to sell their homes. Who would
want to buy in an area that has less than 30 years of flood protection?


Building moratorium likely in Natomas basin
By Matt Weiser of The Sacramento Bee
January 15, 2008

A building moratorium is likely for Sacramento's fast-growing Natomas basin after federal flood-control officials said Tuesday they will designate the area as having a high risk of devastating flood damage because of inadequate river levees.

Next December, when the new federal flood hazard mapping is finalized, any new building - or substantial reconstruction of an existing building - would have to leave the structure as much as 20 feet above ground, high enough to avoid the most damaging of flood waters. But the cost of building that high up will result in practically banning new construction in Natomas, officials said.

The proposed designation also will require holders of federally backed mortgages to buy flood insurance in December. However, officials today recommended that property owners buy that insurance right away.

The new design is result of findings made by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers in 2006 that found Natomas levees no longer meet minimum flood-protection standards - being able to withstand floodwaters so strong they're likely to occur once in 100 years.

Sacramento city officials, who had requested the corps' study, had hoped for a different designation that would allow construct to continue without a need to elevate buildings. But the study announced today, found that some Natomas levee sections don't even meet a 30-year flood protection standard. As a result the Federal Emergency Management Agency, which sets flood-insurance requirements, determined that a stricter insurance rating zone would apply to Natomas when the mapping is finalized in December.

Construction projects in Natomas that obtain permits before December will be governed by existing flood-hazard maps, and won't require structures to be elevated, officials said.

The Sacramento Area Flood Control Agency has a plan to rebuild Natomas levees to the minimum flood-protection level by 2010. It hopes to start construct on that project this summer, but the plan has not yet gotten final approval from state and federal officials.
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Old Posted Jan 15, 2008, 10:14 PM
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So... are they just going to write articles and make plans for it, or are they actually going to do it?
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Next December, when the new federal flood hazard mapping is finalized, any new building - or substantial reconstruction of an existing building - would have to leave the structure as much as 20 feet above ground, high enough to avoid the most damaging of flood waters. But the cost of building that high up will result in practically banning new construction in Natomas, officials said.

I'm curious if this will indefinitely delay long the planned airport expansion??
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I'm curious if this will indefinitely delay long the planned airport expansion??
I looked at the floodplain map for Sac County and it appears that the area of and surrounding the airport is at least 14 ft high already on the northern end and 20 ft high at the southern end. So, unless those new structures will be 6 ft tall or less, we should be fine. Unless, of course, those structures block Mayor Gotta-go's view of the planes taking off and landing. THEN, we have a problem!
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