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Old Posted Feb 25, 2016, 9:37 PM
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I was wondering if any knew the history of Hwy 1A through downtown Calgary? I recall seeing on some older maps that Hwy 1A used to follow 16 Ave NW east from Crowchild Trail, go south on 14 St NW, east of 9 Ave S (west on 6 Ave S), and connect with 17 Ave SE which was also Hwy 1A. Right now, the only remnant is an AB 1A shield on EB 14 Ave NW approaching the 14 St NW interchange near SAIT.

Does anyone know when that section would have been decommissioned?
Off the top of my head, I think that a 1A route through downtown would have been abandoned as a highway in the late 1950s, when the Trans-Canada was built along 16th ave.

The map below is from 1926, and shows in red the route you are describing. It used 10th street rather than 14th street north of the river, as the 14th street bridge wasn't built until the mid-1950s.

EDIT: It's entirely possible, probable even, that the 1A remained in use on central roads long after the 1 opened to serve as an alternative... I might look into that.

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I think it was in the early 90's, but not positive.
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Off the top of my head, I think that a 1A route through downtown would have been abandoned as a highway in the late 1950s, when the Trans-Canada was built along 16th ave.

The map below is from 1926, and shows in red the route you are describing. It used 10th street rather than 14th street north of the river, as the 14th street bridge wasn't built until the mid-1950s.

EDIT: It's entirely possible, probable even, that the 1A remained in use on central roads long after the 1 opened to serve as an alternative... I might look into that.
Thanks! The sign I was referring to is at https://goo.gl/maps/HpUdCuF9zEx.
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Thanks! The sign I was referring to is at https://goo.gl/maps/HpUdCuF9zEx.
Yep. Other signs in the area you can tell were repainted to remove the 1A shield (for instance https://goo.gl/maps/RJM2KXKaATq) so I'd guess that one simply was overlooked.
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Actually, now that I think about it, the 1A designation would have been CREATED in the late 1950s with the coming of the new No.1, NOT removed. I don't know what I was thinking. Ignore my post.

Also, the most recent I have found is a map from 1975 that clearly shows the downtown portions as 1A.
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Highway 22 from Highway 8 to Longview

Another driving video from me. Driving on Alberta Highway 22 (The Cowboy Trail) from the roundabout at Highway 8 through Redwood Meadows, Bragg Creek, Priddis, Turner Valley, Black Diamond and finally to Longview.

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Cochrane Interchange (Hwy 1A/22)

Alberta Transportation announced some major improvements in Cochrane:

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Cochrane Interchange

Budget 2017 includes funding to begin the process for building an interchange at Highway 1A and Highway 22 in the Town of Cochrane...

Project Details

The project is estimated to cost between $40 to 50 million. It will include:
  • Twinning of Highway 1A under a twinned Highway 22 structure;
  • Construction of a twinned Highway 22 bridge structure over the CPR mainline;
  • Ramps to access both Highway 1A and 22; and,
  • Highway 1A bridges over Big Hill Creek.

Project Timelines

Selection of an engineering consultant will begin in 2017. Once design and engineering are complete construction could begin as early as Fall 2019, and is expected to take about two years to complete construction. Once the design process is complete, a more detailed project timeline will be available.
http://www.transportation.alberta.ca/6056.htm

Admittedly I don't live in Cochrane, but I'm a little surprised about an interchange. I know the intersection needs upgrades, but I thought twinning and dual turn lanes would be enough. The topography would be similar to the John Laurie Blvd & Shaganappi Trail intersection. Any thoughts?
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Alberta Transportation announced some major improvements in Cochrane:

Admittedly I don't live in Cochrane, but I'm a little surprised about an interchange. I know the intersection needs upgrades, but I thought twinning and dual turn lanes would be enough. The topography would be similar to the John Laurie Blvd & Shaganappi Trail intersection. Any thoughts?
I don't live in Cochran, but I'm through the intersection a few times per year.

I am glad that AB Transportation is going straight to interchange rather than the natural progression. The progression from minor intersection to major dual turn intersection only makes sense when there is a major developer that can have road improvement levies assessed against the development (essentially developer pays for 1/2 the intersection improvements). In this instance the SE and SW corners are developed and the NE corner cannot be developed due to the escarpment. The NW corner could not take the entirety of road improvement levies and remain commercially viable compared to other locations.

The other nice opportunity for highway 1A is the closure of a lot of the intersections to downtown. Only Centre Ave and 4th Ave need to be intersections. the rest (2nd, 3rd, 4th) can be closed off to improve traffic flow. This will have a further consequence of making 1st and 2nd streets much more pedestrian friendly.

I also commend Ab transportation for their insistence on going directly to interchanges. This is a intersection of two major provincial highways and therefore interchange is warranted.
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Way overdue and badly needed, it's a shame it will be at least another 5 years before anyone can drive it. In the meantime they continue to add to their own problems, there are now other sets of lights along 22 going through Cochrane. Not sure why towns or the Province never seem to learn and keep doing this.
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I grew up in Cochrane, and definitely its needed 10 years ago.

The constraints will make it interesting, reportedly from family that still lives there there are mixed feelings about it. The CP tracks can't be moved, which limits the design to some odd-ball designs. Some initial ideas floated (but not from the province) involve some massive loop ramp bridge structures and essentially lowering 1A below 22.

There also sounds to be a bit of a political issue as well from some people that the timing for this is a "vote NDP in '19 and we'll build it, as the conservatives will cancel it" project.
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Anyone know what's going on on highway 2 north of Airdrie up to the highway 72 interchange? It sure looks like they are widening it, but I don't see that documented anywhere and it would seem a little pointless to just do that short section.
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Anyone know what's going on on highway 2 north of Airdrie up to the highway 72 interchange? It sure looks like they are widening it, but I don't see that documented anywhere and it would seem a little pointless to just do that short section.
It's best they do what they can when they have funds. They are expanding the highway to six lanes from Airdrie to Crossfield and they're upgrading the interchange to a diamond. See Slide 3 of https://arhca.ab.ca/sites/default/fi...ortation_0.pdf.
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Anyone know what's going on on highway 2 north of Airdrie up to the highway 72 interchange? It sure looks like they are widening it, but I don't see that documented anywhere and it would seem a little pointless to just do that short section.
Here's a map of all highway construction projects:
https://www.transportation.alberta.c...rogram_Map.pdf
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Nice thanks, it does link up with the three lane section north of the service area at least. Surely a diamond is a downgrade from a parclo though?
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Nice thanks, it does link up with the three lane section north of the service area at least. Surely a diamond is a downgrade from a parclo though?
I'm not sure what they mean by "upgraded" and the diamond info is from info that is a few years old but I doubt they changed plans on the fly. Does the area you saw tie into Highway 2A as well?

If you look at all of the slides in that in presentation they are definitely looking at the entire corridor and from what I've heard in the past AB Transportation definitely wants to add lanes everywhere. While they're at it they should close down all of the uncontrolled accessed points and upgrade interchanges where needed. Maybe build a few new ones as well.

Upgrading the interchange at Balzac can't come soon enough. I went to the mall about a week ago at a very off hour and the traffic was crazy. Hate to imagine what it's like on weekends during the day. There's also some huge building being constructed there but it doesn't look part of the mall. What is that? It was quite tall and rather uniquely shaped.
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Nice thanks, it does link up with the three lane section north of the service area at least. Surely a diamond is a downgrade from a parclo though?
Look at p. 3 of the file or p. 1 based on document numbering. About half way down you'll see mention of this project. It says the interchange upgrade is to enhance public safety and road widening to six lanes is to relieve congestion.

http://www.transportation.alberta.ca...ionProgram.pdf
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The large construction project just south of CrossIron Mall is the New Horizon Mall, an Asian style mall. Plans call for a grocery store (I bet it will be a T&T) and hotel to be added in the future.
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I'm not sure what they mean by "upgraded" and the diamond info is from info that is a few years old but I doubt they changed plans on the fly. Does the area you saw tie into Highway 2A as well?

If you look at all of the slides in that in presentation they are definitely looking at the entire corridor and from what I've heard in the past AB Transportation definitely wants to add lanes everywhere. While they're at it they should close down all of the uncontrolled accessed points and upgrade interchanges where needed. Maybe build a few new ones as well.

Upgrading the interchange at Balzac can't come soon enough. I went to the mall about a week ago at a very off hour and the traffic was crazy. Hate to imagine what it's like on weekends during the day. There's also some huge building being constructed there but it doesn't look part of the mall. What is that? It was quite tall and rather uniquely shaped.
I agree with closing the access points. AB roads are slowly 'getting' what a freeway should be, but they're not there yet. To be fair, they do have a hell of a lot of roads to manage and prioritise upgrades. My biggest desire is for them to properly bypass all the towns on both highway 43 and highway 1, getting rid of all the signals and speed limit reductions. They're finally bypassing Grande Prairie, which is a godsend, but for some reason have decided to put a roundabout in there. I love roundabouts, but that location is definitely not the place for one.

I've only seen what's on highway 2. Last time I saw it looked like they were widening/moving the loop ramps, maybe the 'diamond' upgrade is inaccurate?
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I agree with closing the access points. AB roads are slowly 'getting' what a freeway should be, but they're not there yet.

I've only seen what's on highway 2. Last time I saw it looked like they were widening/moving the loop ramps, maybe the 'diamond' upgrade is inaccurate?
It very well could be inaccurate. I'm just going by what the documentation says. It would be nice if detailed project info was available. If it is it's not easy to find!
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I'm wondering if the Hwy 72 interchange is being converted to a diamond to make room for the 3rd lane in each direction? Otherwise it might be a tight squeeze that would require a new overpass. IIRC, the acceleration ramp from Hwy 72 west --> Hwy 2 south (and probably EB to NB as well) was pretty short. My guess is it will look like the the Hwy 12 interchange near Lacombe (https://goo.gl/maps/1955Y296RNM2; previously a cloverleaf) when its done.
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