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flar · #**1361** Posted **Jul 11, 2008, 2:08 PM**

This doesn't look that great, but shows how far some other cities (Memphis in this case) are willing to go to preserve their historic streetwalls:

from KCGridlock http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=154129

raisethehammer · #**1362** Posted **Jul 11, 2008, 2:21 PM**

wow. awesome.
I'm sure they plan on building behind it.
And the street will be better for it, not having a piece of garbage like our fed building there instead.

DC83 · #**1363** Posted **Jul 11, 2008, 4:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by realcity

I forgot... DC that was hillarious

I was just trying to make a good comparison.

Some people would think his 'hair' looks horrible, some would think an older uncared for bldg looks horrible. Me? I prefer the Thomas Bldg!

the dude · #**1364** Posted **Jul 12, 2008, 8:56 AM**

winnipeg has a lot of experience in facade restoration. here's an example of one with red river college in behind:

omro · #**1365** Posted **Jul 12, 2008, 9:05 AM**

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Originally Posted by flar

This doesn't look that great, but shows how far some other cities (Memphis in this case) are willing to go to preserve their historic streetwalls:

from KCGridlock http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=154129

If you've ever been to Spain, you'll find works like that common.

When I went to Valencia a few years ago there was a lot of building work going on. My friend explained to me that Spanish regulations maintain that as long as the original facade is restored and maintained, you could do anything you like with the rest of the building. So whole buildings in the city are actually brand new ultra modern buildings inside with the old facade stuck to the outside like a veneer.

It looks great when it's finished, as the facades look like new, even though some are hundreds of years old.

matt602 · #**1366** Posted **Jul 12, 2008, 9:13 AM**

The examples in Winnipeg are very nice. I love how the new building seems to meet perfectly with the old facade. Unfortunately when I see stuff about the facade being restored on a building in Hamilton, I can't help but think that what they really mean is "we'll incorporate some arches and stuff into the new stucco and metal cladding design".

I haven't seen any proper facade restoration examples in the city yet.

matt602 · #**1367** Posted **Jul 21, 2008, 8:43 AM**

Heritage value of Lister Block assessed

The Hamilton Spectator

(Jul 21, 2008)

The Lister Block's bits and pieces are under scrutiny as experts catalogue the landmark's heritage features.

A team of consultants, architects and city staff toured the building to identity which significant features can and should be saved.

Joe Mancinelli, vice-president of the Laborers' International Union of North America, which owns the building, said there's "general consensus on 99 per cent of the issues."

The catalogue of heritage assets and a preservation plan are among criteria the union must meet by the end of August to keep the city's purchase alive. The group went floor by floor to discuss every heritage element. The focus was on the first two storeys, considered most significant because of the old shopping arcade.

http://thespec.com/News/Local/article/406220

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Glad to see that the gears are moving and things are being hammered out. Also glad to see that LIUNA seems to be participating well in the process. Hopefully we'll get to see some rough ideas from them in the next month or two.

highwater · #**1368** Posted **Jul 21, 2008, 1:28 PM**

Yes, this is a relief. Hopefully the arcade will be preserved, and hopefully there will be public access such as ground-floor retail so all the effort going into it can be appreciated by the people paying for it - us!

coalminecanary · #**1369** Posted **Jul 21, 2008, 3:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by thistleclub

Cityview Terrace (2006?)
$5.6M ($940K city loan) into 51 condo units at Caroline and Napier
Chateau Royale (2002-2005?)
$17M ($3.4M city loan) into 197 condo units @ 135 James South
Rebecca Street Lofts (2005)
$4M ($800K city loan) into 40 units @ 11 Rebecca
Core Lofts (2004)
$14.1M into 103 units at 66 Bay Street
Staybridge Suites (2004)
$12M ($2M city loan) into 109 hotel suites at Market & Caroline
Residences on Augusta (2004)
$5M ($1M city loan) into 90 units at James and Augusta

Sputtering:
Trinity Landing (2004-2009?)
$4.6M ($1.2M city loan) into 50 units @ 80 King William at Catharine

Stagnant:
The Lyric/Century (announced 2004)
$1.7M city loan toward 59 units at 12 Mary
Federal Revenue (announced 2004)
$4M city loan toward 180 condo units @ Main & Caroline

Yes, but all of these are loans, not gifts like the lister deal.

matt602 · #**1370** Posted **Jul 24, 2008, 7:59 PM**

Dunno if anybody noticed, but I have dubbed this the Lister tunnel. LIUNA couldn't have made it harder to navigate. There was literally a blind person and a guide dog trying to get through the mess right before I took this photo. He was desperately telling the dog "come on boy, find the way! get us through!"

I hope he escaped the madness alright.

Millstone · #**1371** Posted **Jul 24, 2008, 9:30 PM**

Perhaps you should have directed him to the other side of the street.

omro · #**1372** Posted **Jul 24, 2008, 10:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by matt602

Dunno if anybody noticed, but I have dubbed this the Lister tunnel. LIUNA couldn't have made it harder to navigate.

Why didn't they just close the sidewalk on that side of the road?

Millstone · #**1373** Posted **Jul 24, 2008, 11:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by omro

Why didn't they just close the sidewalk on that side of the road?

Welcome to Hamilton.

1ajs · #**1374** Posted **Jul 25, 2008, 12:46 AM**

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Originally Posted by omro

Why didn't they just close the sidewalk on that side of the road?

probly cause god forbid no one can park there?

the red river colege downtown campus on princess st here in peg city is a gem and a well done building if any of you ever stop in pegcity do make sure to stop by and check it out..... theres some realy neat features that were reincorparated into the new building like entire sections of the old buildings taken apart maticulasly and put backtogether like the school store................................. then theres this hallway and classrooms that lead off it

hmagazine · #**1375** Posted **Jul 25, 2008, 8:43 PM**

my source on the ground at King William and Hughson says the old rapid blueprint building next to Reardons is coming down as I type...

anyone else been down to capture some shots?

raisethehammer · #**1376** Posted **Jul 25, 2008, 9:25 PM**

did I mention that King William is done like dinner?

the dude · #**1377** Posted **Jul 26, 2008, 1:01 AM**

this is what happens when you allow your city to be taken over by pimps, rapists and thugs.

LikeHamilton · #**1378** Posted **Jul 26, 2008, 2:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by hmagazine

my source on the ground at King William and Hughson says the old rapid blueprint building next to Reardons is coming down as I type...

anyone else been down to capture some shots?

I drove by about 9 pm and it is gone!

matt602 · #**1379** Posted **Jul 26, 2008, 2:50 PM**

Indeed. It came down VERY fast. I got downtown around 5pm and was shocked to see it coming down. I had no idea it was happening.

Another gap in King William's teeth...

matt602 · #**1380** Posted **Jul 26, 2008, 4:54 PM**

What the hell, LIUNA. What the hell. You owe us one hell of a Lister Block restoration.