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Old Posted Jan 18, 2018, 6:56 PM
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Toronto police have arrested and charged with murder a 66-year old man in the disappearance of two men from Toronto's gay village last year (their bodies have not been found). Police believe he may be responsible for other deaths.
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Toronto police have arrested and charged with murder a 66-year old man in the disappearance of two men from Toronto's gay village last year (their bodies have not been found). Police believe he may be responsible for other deaths.
Over the last few months, there has been a lot more talk on facebook about a possible serial killer in the Toronto gay community, especially at the disappearance of Andrew Kinsman last June, with the disappearance of at least 4 other men this would make the 66 year old man charged a serial killer.

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Mark Mendelson, a former homicide Toronto detective said that, in all his years in policing, he hasn’t seen a case quite like this – particularly considering the LGBT community’s early outcry.

Police have not dismissed the possibility that the suspect could be linked to the deaths of other men from the city’s gay community. Asked whether a serial killer could be behind the deaths, Mendelson said police wouldn’t have “haphazardly” suggested that there are other victims.

“They’re building a much bigger picture now,” Mendelson said. “Clearly there is some information that is leading them to believe that there are more victims out there, or they wouldn’t have said that.”
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2018, 11:43 PM
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At least 1 for Calgary so far, happened a few doors down on the same street I live.

Darby Soop, 26. Police deemed it a homicide, and already have an idea of what may have happened.

http://calgarysun.com/news/crime/att...-witnesses-say
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa...ting-1.4494527

https://twitter.com/dutyinspector/st...36588826042369

Ottawa has had an excessive amount of shootings since the new year. Like I've been reiterating, Ottawa is seeing a higher amount of crime lately and the trend is a bit alarming.
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https://twitter.com/dutyinspector/st...36588826042369

Ottawa has had an excessive amount of shootings since the new year. Like I've been reiterating, Ottawa is seeing a higher amount of crime lately and the trend is a bit alarming.
Another one tonight - holy cow. The frequency is about three times the pace of 2017. which was already a record.
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2018, 7:54 PM
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All targeted shootings, likely related to gang violence. Wonder if a new group is trying to set up shop in town.

Time for a big boost in youth services from the city and the province. Throwing more cops on the street won't solve a thing.
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At least 1 for Calgary so far, happened a few doors down on the same street I live.

Darby Soop, 26. Police deemed it a homicide, and already have an idea of what may have happened.

http://calgarysun.com/news/crime/att...-witnesses-say
And there's that 21 year old girl who went missing and whose body as found in a park - autopsy details haven't been released.
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And there's that 21 year old girl who went missing and whose body as found in a park - autopsy details haven't been released.
I think that one will be added to last years total.
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All targeted shootings, likely related to gang violence. Wonder if a new group is trying to set up shop in town.

Time for a big boost in youth services from the city and the province. Throwing more cops on the street won't solve a thing.
You're absolutely right. Unfortunately everyone seems to be asleep at the switch or in denial. I guess it will take something like the Boxing Day and Eaton Centre shootings in Toronto for people to wake up unfortunately.

The thing is that with this stuff it's really hard to put the genie back in the bottle.

Those tragedies in Toronto did put the issue to the fore of public consciousness, but violent crime in that city has never really returned to what you might call "Toronto The Good" levels.
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Interestingly enough the mounting shooting total in Ottawa in recent years has had almost no spillover into Gatineau.

But... about 2 hours ago shots were fired from a moving car at a Gatineau strip club a few km from my place. Around 8 pm this evening.

I was in the vicinity (say, 300 m away) with my kids about 2 hours before.

Hopefully this is just a one-off. Or maybe it was just a matter of time.
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You're absolutely right. Unfortunately everyone seems to be asleep at the switch or in denial. I guess it will take something like the Boxing Day and Eaton Centre shootings in Toronto for people to wake up unfortunately.

The thing is that with this stuff it's really hard to put the genie back in the bottle.

Those tragedies in Toronto did put the issue to the fore of public consciousness, but violent crime in that city has never really returned to what you might call "Toronto The Good" levels.
What is your solution? Where are the powers that be not engaging where/how they can/should?
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What is your solution? Where are the powers that be not engaging where/how they can/should?
I don't see why I need to have a ready-made solution in hand in order to have the right to comment, express concern, and take note that no one seems to be interested in recognizing the problem. I'm not a cop, a social worker or a politician.
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Kids join gangs because of social or economic circumstances. An investment in youth diversion programs and youth activities in general from the city, and investments in better mental health and child services from the province are the key. Given the disproportionate number of Indigenous and Somali youth getting involved in these things culturally relevant approaches are also a must.
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Kids join gangs because of social or economic circumstances. An investment in youth diversion programs and youth activities in general from the city, and investments in better mental health and child services from the province are the key. Given the disproportionate number of Indigenous and Somali youth getting involved in these things culturally relevant approaches are also a must.
In the case of non-Indigenous kids there is definitely a "failing" at play there. (Well, there is a "failing" with Indigenous kids too, but it's of a different nature.)

Most of us are aware of analogous problems in European countries like Germany and Sweden, but oftentimes there the youths over there have spent part of their lives in an "old country" that is often an unstable war zone, and therefore have been affected psychologically by what they've seen. As a result they have difficulty adjusting to life in a peaceful western developed country with rule of law.

In Ottawa that's not really what's at play as most of the shooters and victims "known to police" were actually born in Canada or at least grew up here.

The main waves of Somali refugee arrivals were in the late 80s and into the 90s when Siad Barré was in power over there. So those young Somali origin males in Ottawa who are crime-prone are the Ottawa-raised sons and grandsons of those refugees for the most part.

A high number of perpetrators and victims also have Caribbean origins. Again, in the vast majority of cases these are kids who grew up in Ottawa (and sometimes the GTA).
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Overkill or simply authorities doing their job?

A special anti-gang squad of the Sûreté du Québec provincial police is being deployed in Gatineau to help out the city police. This comes after an outside wall at a local strip club was sprayed with bullets on Saturday. No one was injured and no one has been arrested. But everyone is saying this new squad was in the works before the shooting at Pigale, and isn't really a response to it.

To provide some context, Gatineau had one murder in 2017 which was not gang-related and was the doing of a mentally disturbed individual. We had almost no shootings in 2017, in contrast to Ottawa.

The mayor of Gatineau talked to the media about how his police were constantly tracking illegal guns, and referred to what was going on on the other side of the river with shootings and gun deaths as a serious problem.

https://www.ledroit.com/actualites/l...76ab1dff062fa8
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Overkill and probably the wrong approach.
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Overkill and probably the wrong approach.
I was quite shocked when I saw that article this morning, and how it contrasted with the comparative silence from the Ottawa side on this issue that is way more acute in their city than ours.
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Overkill and probably the wrong approach.
they had to find work for the special anti-gang squad of the Sûreté du Québec.
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I was quite shocked when I saw that article this morning, and how it contrasted with the comparative silence from the Ottawa side on this issue that is way more acute in their city than ours.
The exception being the shooting (wounding) the other day in Bell's Corners - probably because it doesn't fit the "usual pattern".
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The exception being the shooting (wounding) the other day in Bell's Corners - probably because it doesn't fit the "usual pattern".
Bells Corners has actually had three violent incidents since the start of the year: two shootings and a vehicular homicide.
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