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These guys, BadBadNotGood, should change their name to GoodGoodReallyFuckingGood. Caught a free show at the Oumf Festival on St. Denis then bought tickets for their show at Club Soda as part of the Jazz Festival. Hard to pick just one tune because they're so versatile but this will illustrate their jazz chops

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^ I've seen BBNG a couple times and met them at Evolve a few years ago. Glad to see them keep at it - when I met them they were pretty frustrated with the Ottawa-and-area jazz scene which they described as pretty conservative and not very supportive of their experimental sound.

If you like BBNG you might also like Dead Horse Beats - I'm actually on my way to go see him spin right now haha

He's based in Montreal but went to STFX so I know him through various friends - I forget whether or not he grew up in NS

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Another jazz-oriented group, this one was formed in Halifax a few years ago by students from Ontario - I actually know the singer/saxophonist having worked with her brother in N. Ontario a couple years prior. Interestingly, their cousin was/is one of Drake's main producers. I think the Wayo split up as the members moved their separate ways although AFAIK they are all still active.

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So, a year-end report on my project.

Well, I lost my spreadsheet a couple times due to the Windows 10 update and then the even weird clawback to Windows 7. So in the last month and a half, I have been rebuilding it. But instead I have refined it and gotten the thing to a more sensible storage situation. That is, I figured out how to build a database and devise the appropriate queries such that the only need for the spreadsheet is to do only the calculations. Songs are prorated for age, language and gender.

I've come up with a more decisive criteria model. The key concepts I use are the following.
  • Familiarity - How has the song reached the intended audience.
  • Relativity - How does the content of the song speak to the intended audience.
  • Flexibility - How many roles, situations, and interpretations can the song fulfill.
  • Identity - How does the song fulfill the roles that are required in Canadian society.

So far I have 100 songs entered. So I will let you compare the top 10% and the bottom 10%.

Top 10%:

1. Call Me Maybe - Call Me Maybe (Justin Bieber)
2. Barrett's Privateers - Stan Rogers (The Real Mckenzies, Alestorm)
3. Maple Sugar - Ward Allen (Andy DeJarlis, Don Messer)
4. YYZ - Rush (Foo Fighters)
5. Angel - Sarah Mclachlan (Josh Groban, Kelly Clarkson)
6. I'll Never Smile Again - Ruth Lowe (Frank Sinatra, Michael Bublé)
7. Which Way You Goin' Billy? - Poppy Family
8. Silence - Delerium & Sarah Mclachlan (DJ Tiësto, Airwave)
9. High School Confidential - Rough Trade
10. Log Driver's Waltz - Wade Hemsworth (Kate & Anna McGarrigle, Captain Tractor)


Bottom 10%

91. Push + Pull - July Talk
92. Internet Rebellion - Arion
93. Omega - Pascal Languirand
94. Psychological Warfare (Rock Em Sock Em Techno) - BKS & Don Cherry
95. Les gross torches Acadiennes - Mononc Serge
96. Pêcher aux Îles - Roger Poirier
97. Brun (le couleur de l'amour) - Bernard Adamus
98. Proud To Be Canadian - Arrogant Worms
99. Ye Girls of Old Ontario - Wade Hemsworth
100. Happy Birthday, Kid - Geoff Hughes


As you might notice, the top 10% is overwhelmingly female. This is a problem with having such a small sample base. As I keep on adding songs, a more equal representation should become more apparent.
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The next is "I Heard the Bells on Christmas Day". I don't think it's ours, I think it's from the American civil war. But it's, easily, the most heartwrenching Christmas carol. The churches here always go silent when it plays. Normally, the congregation sings along with the choir, but this one... the congregation will do the first verse, just to show they know it I suppose, but then it falls silent, all eyes on the choir, and people just sit, and FEEL the lyrics.

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So, a year-end report on my project.

Well, I lost my spreadsheet a couple times due to the Windows 10 update and then the even weird clawback to Windows 7. So in the last month and a half, I have been rebuilding it. But instead I have refined it and gotten the thing to a more sensible storage situation. That is, I figured out how to build a database and devise the appropriate queries such that the only need for the spreadsheet is to do only the calculations. Songs are prorated for age, language and gender.

I've come up with a more decisive criteria model. The key concepts I use are the following.
  • Familiarity - How has the song reached the intended audience.
  • Relativity - How does the content of the song speak to the intended audience.
  • Flexibility - How many roles, situations, and interpretations can the song fulfill.
  • Identity - How does the song fulfill the roles that are required in Canadian society.

So far I have 80 songs entered. So I will let you compare the top 10% and the bottom 10%.

Top 10%:

1. Call Me Maybe - Carly Rae Jepsen (Justin Bieber)
2. Barrett's Privateers - Stan Rogers (Alestorm, The Real Mackenzies)
3. Angel - Sarah Mclachlan (Kelly Clarkson, Josh Groban)
4. YYZ - Rush (Foo Fighters)
5. Maple Sugar - Ward Allen (Andy DeJarlis, Frankie Rogers)
6. I'll Never Smile Again - Ruth Lowe (Frank Sinatra, Michael Bublé)
7. Which Way You Goin' Billy - Poppy Family
8. High School Confidential - Rough Trade

Bottom 10%

73. Pêcher aux iles - Roger Poirier
74. Internet Rebellion - Arion
75. Les gross torches Acadiennes - Mononc Serge
76. Ridin' the Fiddle - King Ganam
77. Push + Pull - July Talk
78. Proud to be Canadian - Arrogant Worms
79. Ye Girls of Old Ontario - Wade Hemsworth
80. Happy Birthday, Kid - Geoff Hughes

As you might notice, the top 10% is overwhelmingly female. This is a problem with having such a small sample base. As I keep on adding songs, a more equal representation should become more apparent.
Can you remind us of what your project entails? Are the criteria all subjective? I'm curious about your Stan Rogers at #2 - why that one rather than the more obvious (to me anyway) choice? Is it because of the cover versions?
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Can you remind us of what your project entails? Are the criteria all subjective? I'm curious about your Stan Rogers at #2 - why that one rather than the more obvious (to me anyway) choice? Is it because of the cover versions?
Project is The Grand Canadian Chansonnier. So the number of covers along with how much those covers are listened to are very important. Also for consideration is subject material: are the antagonist, protagonist, setting, subject and metaphor Canadian? Some of the flexibility criteria is subjective. Is the song appropriate for a church? Is the song appropriate for a family event? Is it appropriate for a wedding? And so on. Another subjective field is how can it be interpreted? Can it be done sweet? Hot? Cold? Dark? Hard? Blue?

I am writing a writeup for this all and the songs being selected in the preliminary tests answer at least one of the criteria. It's looking like the writeup is heading north of 100 pages but eh, that's what it should look like. So of the sample chosen, here are songs for men that are in direct competition with Barrett's Privateers and have been calculated:

1. Barrett's Privateers - Stan Rogers (Alestorm, The Real Mackenzies)
2. Mon pays c'est l'hiver - Gilles Vigneault (Monique Leyrac, Patsy Gallant)
3. American Woman - The Guess Who (Jimi Hendrix, Lenny Kravitz)
4. The Hockey Song - Stompin' Tom Connors (Hansen Brothers, DOA)
5. The Blackfly Song - Wade Hemsworth
6. Joe Batt's Arm Longliners - Frank Dwyer (Middle Tickle)
7. L'adieu du soldat - Roland Lebrun
8. The Girl in Saskatoon - Johnny Cash

Edit: oops. Just realised that I had disassociated Barrett's Privateers from other male songs and put it into the masculine category alongside such songs as My Darkest Days - Porn Star Dancing.

The five categories for gender are:

Masculine - songs sung by men and cover themes that are masculine (loving of women, trials and tribulations of men.)
Male - songs sung by men but vague enough to be sung by women.
Either - songs with undeclared gender, includes both genders as duets or choirs, or is an instrumental.
Female - songs sung by women but vague enough to be sung by men.
Feminine - songs sung by women and cover themes that are feminine (loving of men, trials and tribulations of women.)

Right now the Male category is weighed down by a lone Kashtin song with a major proration buff. None of the other categories has this problem and so naturally climb ahead.
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Old now, but still... Justin chose Fortunate Ones, who I love, even though their latest album is too country and consequently awful.



Anyhow, not the song he chose, but one of the Fortunate Ones' songs that makes me happy:

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It's just so uplifting and happy. And she's really the star of the show as far as this band goes, main vocalist and all that, so it's cute when he's the lead on a song. It's like when one of the b'ys headlines a The Once song. And I love the lack of ego it shows when someone can just take a seat and contribute. Geraldine from The Once does that greatly as well. It's a mark of a true artist to me.

BTW, their band name is a tribute to the less talented, more mainstream NL folk band Ennis:

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I fear I've already made EXACTLY this post within the past couple of pages. Forgive me if so, I'll just delete this one in the morning lol
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So, as I've said 1,000 times for years, The Once is my favourite band, and Amelia Curran is my favourite solo artist. She's won a Juno, and all of that, so I know at least the music industry in the rest of Canada knows who she is.

But, Irish newspapers are calling her the heir to Leonard Cohen's throne, and I hear that and I think... I REALLY don't believe, if not for me, anyone on SSP would have any idea who she even is. So did you? Do you know of Amelia Curran? lol I suspect she's mainly a local thing, and probably Ireland, but not exactly top of the daily playlist anywhere else.

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Ugh, now on an Amelia kick.

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Hello, it's me the mistress, is there anybody home?
The last place I should be is sittin' here alone
All I ask for is forgiveness, if you've got some, give it here

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You had me by the Bible, and you had me by the belt
And you had me from the instant my cold love began to melt
And then you praise me for my inspiration
Asked me for an explanation
Followed up with hesitation
Fit my primal expectation
I don't care, but I don't mind
You can call me any time
You can holler through the fortress
And kick me out of line
I don't expect it from the grief that gathers in my head
I like suspended disbelief
I like to spend the day in bed
I like to spend the nights in heaven
Hanging with the dead
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So, as I've said 1,000 times for years, The Once is my favourite band, and Amelia Curran is my favourite solo artist. She's won a Juno, and all of that, so I know at least the music industry in the rest of Canada knows who she is.

But, Irish newspapers are calling her the heir to Leonard Cohen's throne, and I hear that and I think... I REALLY don't believe, if not for me, anyone on SSP would have any idea who she even is. So did you? Do you know of Amelia Curran? lol I suspect she's mainly a local thing, and probably Ireland, but not exactly top of the daily playlist anywhere else.

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Never heard of her. But I am probably not the best reference marker.
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I'm getting the feeling that musical tastes are a very regional thing in Canada. Besides international musical acts that everyone knows, Canadian musical artists are 99% of the time only regionally known in Canada or only known in other countries where they have made a splash.

The Dead South from Regina are a Bluegrass Folk group that sold out 3 shows recently in hometown after doing a Western Canadian tour in December and the Summer festival circuits in Europe, SXSW in Austin and Folk Alliance in Kansas City in 2016, but outside Saskatchewan, I doubt very few people know them outside of the UK, Denmark or Germany where they do most of their shows.

http://www.radioeins.de/programm/sen...ead-south.html

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Speaking of Kansas City's Folk Alliance festival in 2016, & another Saskatchewan Quartet, this one all female & from Saskatoon, did that festival plus did a New Years Eve 'party like it's 1949' show at Broadway Theatre in Saskatoon this last weekend. Rosie and the Riveters carved their own niche by doing nostalgic vintage style music with lots of harmonies.


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The ladies are on tour of Western Canada this month & one of the members of the Riveters does french folk music but other than that I doubt people outside of Saskatchewan are familiar with their music.

http://www.saskfashion.com/blog/2016...mfb6uc8uqztoux

My boyfriend is Spanish & sings with his group of performers in Western Canada & United States & even though I don't speak Spanish myself he's turned me onto Latin American music.
One of my favorite Spanish musical groups from Saskatchewan, Andino Suns are from Regina & their song Madre is really enjoyable even though I don't understand all the words. Megan Nash from Moose Jaw is featured.
People in rest of Canada ever hear of this song? I extremely doubt it..
Andino Suns & Megan Nash were also performers at Folk Alliance in Missouri in 2016.


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Amelia Curran gets fairly good exposure here on Radio 2.
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Amelia just released her new single on q, and it's up on Spotify.

https://play.spotify.com/track/7yYOw...tm_medium=open
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And a little good news for the boychoir:

Atlantic BoyChoir to sing at 2018 Olympic Games in South Korea

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Newfoundland and Labrador's Atlantic BoyChoir has been invited to perform at the 2018 winter Olympic Games in Pyeongchang, South Korea.

"We are really really excited, of course. It's a very prestigious event," said artistic director Jakub Martinec.

"We also have two major concerts in Seoul. So, it's not just about the Olympics, but about an amazing experience for the boys," he said.

The choir is the only provincial boy choir in Canada, with performers between the age of eight and 22.

German tour planned for later this year

Martinec told the St. John's Morning Show on Thursday that the choir's first major international performance will be in Germany in December.

Three Christmas concerts are scheduled in Nuremberg with the German Symphony Orchestra and the Czech Boys Choir, of which Martinec is a founding director.
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So Opera on the Avalon has a shitload of CFAs in this year's cast.

They've profiled most of them by now, and surely half aren't from here.





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And our own Munro, who is well-known enough in NYC and London now, and has done some work with the Opera, but here performing with the NL Symphony Orchestra (it's crappy, but it's the last time I saw them, so best I can do).

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I'm not usually a fan of what the CBC plays on the drive home. But every once in a while they play something I really like. This band is from Edmonton. I think the tune is a lot happier than the lyrics but then again music covers it all.

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More Alberta (30 seconds of this one was an ATB commercial).

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Just looking through 2016's top performances by Saskatchewan groups..

Kacy and Clayton, a teenage duo from Glentworth, SK near the Montana border that sings retro British folk/rock, released their video for Strange Country & album of same name, before they went on their 2016 American & European tour for New West Records, their Nashville/Atlanta label.

Vinyl Me Please ranked 'Strange Country' as one of the most overlooked albums of 2016
http://www.vinylmeplease.com/magazin...ed+Albums+(UNC)

Music critic Oliver Gray wrote, Kacy was the voice to watch at Austin's SXSW 2016. '..her sweet, innocent tones stood out a mile.'
http://olivergray.com/2016/03/

Sean Jewell and Greg Vandy of KEXP Seattle rated their debut album The Day Is Past & Gone, as one of the best LPs of the year.

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Kacy and Clayton in February are back in America starting where they left off tour in San Francisco last September.
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