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Old Posted Jan 19, 2011, 6:36 PM
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Atlantic Canada airport thread

For all the airport talk from our heck of the woods
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2011, 4:31 PM
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Bathurst airport numbers

Passengers - 40 022 down 3% from 2009 mostly because the strip was closed for 3 weeks for resurfacing(69 flights cancelled) Not bad considering last year they had an additional flight for the months of the acadian congress. Numbers have been good for the last years.

Infrastructures - 2010 has seen the resurfacing of the strip and GPS capabilities.

Future plans - expansion of the parking area(120 to 200), double the size of the terminal( for those of you who thinks the terminal is crowded when the 37 pass plane lands, imagine when the 50 pass comes in) And extension of the runway from 5000 ft to 5900 ft to accomodate larger planes and be more appealing to airlines.
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290,000 out of the Charlottetown airport for 2010. This is a 4.3% increase from 2009.

http://www.flypei.com/newsevents_item.php?news_id=90
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Greater Moncton International

Can't wait to see 2010 statistics for the GMIA, it's due to be released in May. For 2011 I wish Moncton gets a flight to Boston and one to St. John's (N.F.L)...
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Over 1.3 million people travelled through St, John's International, up eight per cent from 2009.

http://www.thetelegram.com/Business/...in-St.-Johns/1
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The Greater Moncton International Airport should have a passenger count in the vicinity of 590,000 for 2010. This is over 50% of the provincial total for NB.

Porter Airlines has been a good addition for the airport this year. They have flights to Ottawa and Toronto (Billy Bishop). WestJet, Air Canada and Continental also have regularly scheduled service to the GMIA.

The charter season is getting under way. You can fly direct from Moncton to Mexico, Jamaica, the Dominican Republic, Cuba and Florida (Orlando).
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The Greater Moncton International Airport should have a passenger count in the vicinity of 590,000 for 2010. This is over 50% of the provincial total for NB.

I just landed in the Halifax airport from Saint John on my way overseas for a few days and can't but think how silly we are in NB. If you said there was going to be an airport in SJ, Fred, and Moncton you would expect the traffic to be roughly split evenly three ways amounting to roughly 350,000 passengers per airport.

However the Moncton airport has successful beyond what anyone could have expected, mostly as a result of some federal funding (irrelevant to the point), and yet it is sill not even close to enough passengers to offer a reasonable level of service for a business traveler.

I understand there are some seasonal holiday destinations, but in reality the only destinations served out of New Brunswick are Halifax, Montreal, Toronto and once a day to Newark.

If the province ever wants to get serious about moving forward economically, and offer the air transportation that significant businesses require the airports need to be combined.
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Old Posted Feb 6, 2011, 1:45 AM
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The Moncton airport has successful beyond what anyone could have expected, mostly as a result of some federal funding.
I don't know what "federal funding" you're talking about. It's true we did get some money for a new apron for the Francophonie Summit, but that's pretty much it. In fact the GMIA was penalized at the outset for being the first airport that Transport Canada decided to privatize. The local airport authority got a raw deal on that one, with all subsequent privatizations being much more equitable in terms of start-up funding......

The Moncton Airport has always been successful, but also by being the first airport in the region out of the gate with privatization, the local airport authority was able to be proactive with the carriers in terms of securing new routes or expanding services on existing routes. This gave us a head start.

Having said this, I don't disagree with you about there being too many airports in southern NB. What would you do though, amalgamate services at one of the existing airports or build an entirely new one in Sussex. The Sussex option would likely cost at least a half billion dollars.

I can't see any government playing favourites with an existing airport now, or building a brand new airport......it would be political suicide!
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What would you do though, amalgamate services at one of the existing airports or build an entirely new one in Sussex. The Sussex option would likely cost at least a half billion dollars.

I can't see any government playing favourites with an existing airport now, or building a brand new airport......it would be political suicide!

The only logical place would be in the Sussex area. It is a shame that the Moncton airport had not been built 30-40 KM's west of the city instead of the 5-10 East that it is so that the commute would be under an hour for both Fred and SJ. I think if that were the case the argument could be made to close the other two. Unfortunately that is not the case and none of the airports will ever be closed unless it is for a centralized airport which virtually everyone agrees is the correct strategy.

With the state of the current economy this is obviously not something that is going to happen in the short term and may never happen.

I dont expect a centralized NB airport will ever happen, not enough of the population uses airports to warrant the cost, however we will never have proper air service until it does.
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The Greater Moncton International Airport should have a passenger count in the vicinity of 590,000 for 2010. This is over 50% of the provincial total for NB.
That's not much for being 50% of the provincial total when you consider 1.3 million flew out of St. John's. New Brunswick has other modes of transportation that is easy to take unlike Newfoundland and Labrador however but still. Moncton isn't that much smaller then St. John's, one large "regional" airport would be smart for all 3 cities. Maybe David Alward should pass legislation moving the capital and all of the people living in Saint John and Fredericton to Moncton?
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That's not much for being 50% of the provincial total when you consider 1.3 million flew out of St. John's. New Brunswick has other modes of transportation that is easy to take unlike Newfoundland and Labrador however but still. Moncton isn't that much smaller then St. John's, one large "regional" airport would be smart for all 3 cities. Maybe David Alward should pass legislation moving the capital and all of the people living in Saint John and Fredericton to Moncton?
That's dangerous talk, PoscStudent. Dangerous, indeed. .
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^ I see this was already mentioned above, but here is part of the article:


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Airport traffic soars in St. John's

Traffic is flying high at St. John’s International Airport. More than 1.3 million people travelled through the airport’s gates in 2010, up eight per cent from 2009.

This is great news, and not only for the airport but also for the province, said Keith Collins, president and CEO of St. John’s International Airport Authority.

“It speaks extremely well to the health of the economy, for the province and particularly the capital region,” said Collins.

The airport has seen steady growth in passenger numbers for the past few years. Collins credits the airport’s success to Newfoundland and Labrador’s increasing economic opportunity and its ability to attract tourists.

“The combination of a strong local economy, a province that has established itself as a must-see location for tourists and a city that is an increasingly popular destination for conferences has resulted in record numbers of business and leisure travellers at our airport,” he said.

Also contributing to the increase in traffic flow was an increase in competitiveness of ticket prices and the number of available flights brought on by the establishment of Porter Airlines, said Collins. Porter added hundreds of seats every day in various flights to and from St. John’s when it was established in 2009.

This extra traffic, along with new flights offered by Air Canada, resulted in an overall seat capacity increase of 13 per cent in 2010.
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I think one of the noted problems at St. John's Airport is the lack of public transit. Is this the case elsewhere too ?
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2011, 3:33 AM
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I had no idea Bathurst got as much traffic as it does.

As for public transportation, I don't believe Moncton or Fredericton airports are served by municipal bus service. I don't know about Saint John.

Fredericton is somewhat understandable, as YFC is a solid 15 minute drive out of town. While the area in between is built up, I would hazard to guess that it isn't to an extent high enough to justify transit.

Moncton, on the other hand, doesn't have any excuse. The airport is a 7 minute drive from downtown, and is next to the fastest growing industrial park in the city (which also has no dedicated mass transit). However the old terminal/flight college is on a route. It is a stop on the Acadian Lines inter-city bus route though.
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Fredericton Transit only operates within city limits. The Lincoln bus turns around at the last intersection in the city, and that's still a good 5-6 km away. Never heard anyone even suggest extending service to the airport.

Saint John does have an airport route, though it only runs 12 hours a day, 5 days a week:
http://www.saintjohntransit.com/cont...ps/Route32.pdf
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Moncton, on the other hand, doesn't have any excuse. The airport is a 7 minute drive from downtown, and is next to the fastest growing industrial park in the city (which also has no dedicated mass transit). However the old terminal/flight college is on a route. It is a stop on the Acadian Lines inter-city bus route though.
I agree... Moncton should have a route, the airport is also the busiest in the province so i'm certain it would do well. Also the biggest hotels in Moncton are downtown and if the route starts downtown...

I hope they start one soon because like mylesmalley said, there is no excuse!
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Codiac Transit is indeed contemplating an airport route as part of their strategic plan. This does not necessarily mean that it will happen. The taxi industry is lobbying against it. Also, the economics may be against the proposal. A disproportionate number of the flights at the airport leave in the early morning (6-8 AM) and arrive back late in the evening (10-12 PM).
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As for public transportation, I don't believe Moncton or Fredericton airports are served by municipal bus service. I don't know about Saint John.
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Just checked and Saint John Airport is serviced by Saint John transit
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International flights coming to Debert

DEBERT – The Debert Airport is going international.
A new CanPass system is now available for pre-approved flights coming into the airport from international destinations, including the United States.
“CanPass means that travellers outside of our borders pre-register with Canada Customs, and can gain access to the Debert airport’s runway and fueling facilities without a formal face-to-face meeting with a Canada Customs officer,” said Tony Richards, the Colchester Regional Development Agency’s Debert Airport supervisor.
“When pilots use CanPass, Canada Customs looks at who’s on the flight and what they’re carrying, usually a day or two in advance.”
That means that if they have any concerns, Canada Customs officials will come out from the Halifax-Stanfield Airport to greet exactly who is on the flight, and physically examine what kind of cargo they’re carrying.
“It opens up the Debert Airport to a whole new range of clients,” says CoRDA’s executive director Ron Smith. “We’re here to make business flow more smoothly, and that’s what this important step does for the Debert Airport. We are a convenient re-fuelling stop for regional flights, and for flights between Canada and Europe.”
http://www.trurodaily.com/News/Local...ng-to-Debert/1
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Just checked and Saint John Airport is serviced by Saint John transit
Not very well though, the schedule sucks.
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St. John's doesn't have Transit from the airport to downtown either. Taxi's are making a fortune because they charge flat rates that are a lot more expensive. There were comments about this in that article posted.
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