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Old Posted May 13, 2015, 6:42 PM
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Does downtown really need another dog park? The one at madison square is nice, but it's also pretty underutilized.
Considering Maverick Park is in River North and not Downtown, this is def needed.
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Old Posted May 13, 2015, 7:08 PM
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Does downtown really need another dog park? The one at madison square is nice, but it's also pretty underutilized.
Well, if and when the one in Maverick Park comes together it should be different because there actual residents that live nearby. Residents w/o yards who may own a dog. A dog that needs to stretch and get some exercise.

They need to do something with Broadway, though. That's a hot walk to the park. And, they need to understand that shade is a good thing in Texas; so plant some trees
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Old Posted May 14, 2015, 2:40 AM
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Updated design for Confluence Park, where San Pedro creek and the San Antonio river converge:



More renderings at link. The article says they are announcing a major donor tomorrow. I wonder what happened to the original design and design team.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/loc...er-6261804.php

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Old Posted May 14, 2015, 7:15 AM
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Old Posted May 19, 2015, 10:10 PM
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Old Posted May 22, 2015, 8:20 PM
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Potential Baseball Stadium

Exclusive: Downtown baseball stadium talks advancing, Wolff says

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantoni...ium-talks.html
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Old Posted May 22, 2015, 8:52 PM
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Waste of time. They'll convince the poor citizens of San Antonio that it's worth increasing some tax to pay for it, just like they did for the Alamodome with the empty promise of bringing in the NFL, but they won't do the same for a real mass transit system.
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Old Posted May 22, 2015, 9:49 PM
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Exclusive: Downtown baseball stadium talks advancing, Wolff says

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantoni...ium-talks.html
If it ever happens...and I hope it does.

It better truly be a downtown stadium, within walking distance of downtown amenities.
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Old Posted May 22, 2015, 10:39 PM
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If it ever happens...and I hope it does.

It better truly be a downtown stadium, within walking distance of downtown amenities.
I say bring it on!! This would just add to the "downtown momentum" at the present time!!
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I say bring it on!! This would just add to the "downtown momentum" at the present time!!
Because a downtown stadium for a city without a team is a better investment than a relaiable transit system for a city expected to add a million residents?
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Old Posted May 26, 2015, 6:26 PM
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Because a downtown stadium for a city without a team is a better investment than a relaiable transit system for a city expected to add a million residents?
1. A stadium would not be built on spec. People will always complain about the Alamo Dome, and how it is a failure because no NFL team ever made San Antonio its permanent home. However, what they fail to understand is that the Alamo Dome is a Civic asset and has probably been a greater success by not housing an NFL team. A baseball stadium is completely different, as would have been and outdoor Football stadium; you don't build those for spec.

2. VIA runs a pretty reliable transit system to date. I wish that they would diversify that (further than BRT) by adding street car or some light rail, but in a city like San Antonio, where populations are more suburban than urban, options are limited.

These are two very different issues and cannot be compared in cost or scope.

A minor league baseball stadium ---- $150 - $200 million

Modest Street Car System ---- $300+ million

Light Rail System ---- Multiple billions of dollars
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Old Posted May 26, 2015, 8:05 PM
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When you take into account use and benefit, there is no comparison. Street cars can be used everyday by anyone. Baseball stadiums are hardly used at all.

It's like comparing a tent to a wheel barrow. If you like to camp the tent seems like a lot of fun, but you could actually use the wheel barrow. The city's problem was that they were going for the shiniest one. They could have proposed smaller, more focused routes; instead of the economic generator dreams. Wasn't Houston's first line between Rice and UofH?

Besides, attendance for the Missions is not great. Soccer draws better, but it seems like the city missed the bus on that as well when the Hamburgler killed a chance after he was first elected. I read an article recently where the scorpions could no longer afford to sponsor their youth academy teams, and could not get any corporate help to step up. Most teams in MLS and their league do this. That kind of news doesn't help the chances for getting an MLS franchise. While the fans have certainly stepped up, it seems SA business leaders are unable to step up to the plate and pinch hit.

If government is not involved, they can build whatever they want. If someone is wanting funding help for a stadium, kill it.

As far as the Alamodome goes, as homely as it is, it is actually versatile and can be used for many events. It was built to attract football because the NFL told the city that was the thing that prevented them from getting a team. Turns out it really wasn't. And, as much as things have changed, the city is still in the same position, watching from the dugout. At least they are saying AAA and not MLB. As much as Wolfe has done for the city, he still can't shake that jones for baseball.
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When you take into account use and benefit, there is no comparison. Street cars can be used everyday by anyone. Baseball stadiums are hardly used at all.
They should not be compared they are two completely different things that most likely would not compete for public funds.

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Besides, attendance for the Missions is not great. Soccer draws better, but it seems like the city missed the bus on that as well when the Hamburgler killed a chance after he was first elected. I read an article recently where the scorpions could no longer afford to sponsor their youth academy teams, and could not get any corporate help to step up. Most teams in MLS and their league do this. That kind of news doesn't help the chances for getting an MLS franchise. While the fans have certainly stepped up, it seems SA business leaders are unable to step up to the plate and pinch hit.
MLS in SA is not dead by any means. MLS will expand beyond 24 teams (probably to 30 in the near future). They are currently looking for buyers for the scorpions...if the Scorpions become an MLS team, I doubt that Hartmann will have much involvement with it. The operation of an academy is related to the current situation of the team, if there is going to be a major push for MLS it would have to be reinstated.

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If government is not involved, they can build whatever they want. If someone is wanting funding help for a stadium, kill it.
I don't believe that this is a Black and White issue.

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As far as the Alamodome goes, as homely as it is, it is actually versatile and can be used for many events. It was built to attract football because the NFL told the city that was the thing that prevented them from getting a team. Turns out it really wasn't.
The problem in San Antonio when they were trying to attract an NFL team was that there was no place to play. Most cities that try to attract an NFL team have at least a temporary home while a Venue is constructed. Therefore, what the NFL said was true. The Alamo Dome was a failure back then as to it being able to attract an NFL franchise. However today it could be seen as a temporary facility if a team were to ever locate here (not holding my breath).

The Alamo Dome is great for what it is.

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Old Posted May 29, 2015, 6:03 AM
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Construction of second San Antonio River Walk in the works
MaryAnn Martinez, 10:58 p.m. CDT May 28, 2015

Does San Antonio have room for two river walks?

That's the almost billion-dollar question as local leaders spend three-quarters of $1 billion to transform a run-down ditch into the next hot spot in the city.

Most of (the San Pedro Creek) is a ditch today, but what a lot of people don't realize, this is how our city started," said County Judge Nelson Wolff.

The project will start near I-35 and Santa Rosa near Fox Tech High School and continue south for the next two miles. The $175 million project, much of it from taxpayers, could bring shopping, dining and entertainment to this part of downtown.

It could also bring luxury apartments. That could mean higher rent prices for the one apartment building currently on the bank of the San Pedro Creek, where Jimmy Ochoa lives.
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I'm confused...is it three quarters of a billion or $175 million?
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I'm confused...is it three quarters of a billion or $175 million?
Agreed. That is poorly worded or explained. Are they perhaps doing it in stages with the first costing $175 million?
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Plans to develop a former CPS Energy power plant into an “epicenter” of energy education and technological innovation were officially unveiled Wednesday morning. The publicly owned utility’s CEO Doyle Beneby was joined by Councilmember Shirley Gonzales (D5) and a host of representatives from local energy and logistics companies that have been working with CPS Energy on its New Energy Economy initiative.

EPIcenter – the building and the forthcoming nonprofit organization that will manage the project and its programming – will take the development of renewable energy sources to a new level, Beneby said.






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...A minor league baseball stadium ---- $150 - $200 million
That would be the most expensive minor league stadium ever built...

Most (new) minor league stadiums cost between $25 million and $75 million to develop.
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I hope this becomes a reality, this looks really cool!
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