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Old Posted Oct 12, 2012, 8:31 PM
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[Dartmouth] Twin Lakes (Prince Albert & Bartlin) | 2X39m | 2X12 fl | Proposed

Name: Twin Lakes Condominiums
Height: 38m
Floors: 12 floors
Status: Approved
Location: ~335 Prince Albert Road (at Bartlin Road)
Approval Date: July 6th, 2006
Developer(s): Twin Lakes Developments
Architect(s): Kassner/Goodspeed Architects
Uses: Residential
Notes: Development Agreement




I'm reading the development agreement right now so I'll post more when I finish it but the basics are;

http://www.halifax.ca/commcoun/hecc/...ase784Jul6.pdf

This is an approved 12-storey building on Prince Albert Road near Bartlin Road approximately across from the Superstore. It was approved in 2006 by Harbour East Community Council.

Interesting point to note; This proposal was recommended by municipal staff to be REJECTED but apparently because of local support and a lot of public consultation Councilor McCluskey moved the motion to APPROVE the project and it was passed unanimously.
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Old Posted Oct 12, 2012, 11:48 PM
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How is it possible that this has been knocking around in the system since 2006? And how is it that this is acceptable in scale, but one block away a slightly taller proposal was shouted down without even a public hearing?
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And how is it that this is acceptable in scale, but one block away a slightly taller proposal was shouted down without even a public hearing?
It would be interesting to see how McCluskey voted on this one.

Any micromanaging like this on the part of councillors is inevitably going to become political because they have tiny districts and with low voter turnout a couple hundred votes can change an election result. Principles don't matter because the soft supporters don't even vote; piss off a couple of streets and you lose your seat.

It is seriously messed up. I think the new districts will help a bit and an HbD-style approval process for Dartmouth would help a lot. They might end up with low height limits but right now half of the developments are arbitrarily shot down after developers have already invested substantial time and money in their design.
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It would be interesting to see how McCluskey voted on this one.
Well I think DJ answered that already:
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Interesting point to note; This proposal was recommended by municipal staff to be REJECTED but apparently because of local support and a lot of public consultation Councilor McCluskey moved the motion to APPROVE the project and it was passed unanimously.
I'm hoping that the Regional Centre Plan will end some of these glaring issues, which Keith is right to point out. If only it had been pointed out that this was approved; it might have helped.

That said - the question I would ask is whether or not the DA is still in effect? Isn't there usually a requirement that construction begin within a certain time period? That's the same issue with Twisted Sisters...
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Well I think DJ answered that already:


I'm hoping that the Regional Centre Plan will end some of these glaring issues, which Keith is right to point out. If only it had been pointed out that this was approved; it might have helped.

That said - the question I would ask is whether or not the DA is still in effect? Isn't there usually a requirement that construction begin within a certain time period? That's the same issue with Twisted Sisters...
Yeah...if it's been 6 years now what are the odds they'll ever break ground having let this much time pass?
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Apparently this project is not dead ...

The property owners are seeking an extension to the development agreement to allow for two more years for construction to begin. They also own the NAPA property in front of this proposal and are planning for a low-rise mixed-use building there after the Centre Plan is approved.

Case 21546 Details - Halifax Planning
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I didn't realise this ever got approved?!

It also amazes me that residents kicked up such a big fuss with the proposal two blocks away from this and yet no one seems to even be aware of this one having ever existed?!
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Apparently this project is not dead ...

The property owners are seeking an extension to the development agreement to allow for two more years for construction to begin. They also own the NAPA property in front of this proposal and are planning for a low-rise mixed-use building there after the Centre Plan is approved.

Case 21546 Details - Halifax Planning
The DA was signed March 27 2013 and was for 5 years; section 5.6 allows HRM to grant an extension.
I have known of the project for many years.
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This project is still not dead

The non-substantive time extension was approved last year.

Now Twin Lakes is seeking substantive amendments to relocate and slim down the approved building and expand the lot to 3.25 acres to allow for a second residential building with the same mass in behind the approved building. Together the site would have ~175 units, ~230 parking spaces, and ground floor retail along Prince Albert. A second phase of development will align with Centre Plan and be built as a 6-storey as-of-right residential building.

HRM Planning Case #22285 Details
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This is a nice improvement over the approved building.
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Much improved!
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