Lansdowne Park Redevelopment Phase 1 | Completed

[Jamaican-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by gjhall

In other words, the poll was very successful until those not in favour of the project voted, because those for your plan would NEVER defy the honor system...right.

I guess we all know now why the poll was taken down; jemartin didn't like the results it was producing. Talk about dishonesty and trying to spin things. It would make me lose respect, but it's not I had any for him and his proposal in the first place.

[gjhall]

Originally Posted by jemartin

You will have a chance to register one vote on a regulated question which will prevent abuse.

I fear you've missed my point!

[jemartin]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

Where is the link to the poll?

The Lansdowne Park Conservancy Survey Questionnaire:

View the online survey questionnaire by going to www.lpc-cpl.ca
This survey is by registered email address only.
To be included, please send a request to info@lpc-cpl.ca .
The survey link will be sent to your email address.

[waterloowarrior]

Can we keep the Conservancy stuff in its own thread please.....

[waterloowarrior]

they're talking about the heritage report right now at the council meeting

[umbria27]

Originally Posted by Jamaican-Phoenix

Well the main difference about football in Ottawa this time around is that Jeff Hunt is leading the team and he's the guy who turned the Ottawa 67's into a major OHL success story. I'm fairly confident he can do the same for football. Another thing that is growing more irksome is how people think this is just about football. There have been some positive talks with the UCL about getting a team in Ottawa along with a football team. Even then, this is all part of the bigger idea which is to redevelop Lansdowne into a truly usable public space.

It's all very well and good to put our trust in Jeff Hunt, but he's no magician. Even good sports owners can fail. We were fairly confident that the first Renegades owners were going to be successful, but they very quickly sold to our favourite Father/Son duo. Remember too that previous to the 'Gades failing both other Ontario teams (Hamilton and Toronto) went bankrupt in 2003. The Argos have been losing money ever since, and were propped up by Lions owner David Braley until he bought them this year, so you can understand why people are nervous about putting 117 million into a stadium when the anchor tenant is a CFL team. David Braley can't be counted to buy every team in the league.

And yes, it really is about the CFL team. We can talk about those rare big concerts, but the Rolling Stones don't come to Ottawa every year. Most big music tours are based on an arena format, so they're going to opt for Scotiabank Place anyway.

As for soccer, OSEG has applied for a USL franchise. This is possibly the only league in North America more dysfunctional than the CFL. Most of the USL teams left last year to form the NASL. There are three remaining (Austin, Puerto Rico & Portland). They are playing in a temporary league with the NASL teams, two of which (Montreal and Vancouver) are going to the MLS anyway. So the USL is hardly a sure investment either. The average attendance for USL games, by the way, is around 5000 people.

So people are smart to be worried about the viability of the sports teams at Lansdowne. The fact that the city is footing the entire bill for the renovations makes me nervous too. Greenberg keeps saying, 'how can you ask us to invest in the stadium if we don't own it?', but that's a disingenuous argument. He has no problem investing in stores build on land he doesn't own. In fact it's fairly normal retail practice for tenants, such as restaurants, to purchase the fixtures they need for a rented space. It seems fair to ask OSEG to invest in the aspects of the stadium that they feel are necessary for pro sports, things like a video scoreboard, media centre, upgraded changing rooms. Doing so would give us some assurance that they aren't going to walk away from the sports team once their 5 year guarantee is over.

[Jamaican-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by umbria27

It's all very well and good to put our trust in Jeff Hunt, but he's no magician. Even good sports owners can fail. We were fairly confident that the first Renegades owners were going to be successful, but they very quickly sold to our favourite Father/Son duo. Remember too that previous to the 'Gades failing both other Ontario teams (Hamilton and Toronto) went bankrupt in 2003. The Argos have been losing money ever since, and were propped up by Lions owner David Braley until he bought them this year, so you can understand why people are nervous about putting 117 million into a stadium when the anchor tenant is a CFL team. David Braley can't be counted to buy every team in the league.

True, things don't always go as planned but this is still the most positive proposal we've seen for some time. As for the CFL being the anchor tenant, that is only half-true. There are the Ottawa 67's in the basement, remember?

And yes, it really is about the CFL team.

No it isn't and to believe so is rather dangerous.

We can talk about those rare big concerts, but the Rolling Stones don't come to Ottawa every year. Most big music tours are based on an arena format, so they're going to opt for Scotiabank Place anyway.

I'm not even talking about the Rolling Stones. I'm talking about Green Day, Alice Cooper, AC/DC, Aerosmith, Bob Dylan, Metallica and Our Lady Peace. All those bands(along with others), many of them fairly recently, have all performed at Lansdowne Park and/or the Civic Centre.

As for soccer, OSEG has applied for a USL franchise. This is possibly the only league in North America more dysfunctional than the CFL. Most of the USL teams left last year to form the NASL. There are three remaining (Austin, Puerto Rico & Portland). They are playing in a temporary league with the NASL teams, two of which (Montreal and Vancouver) are going to the MLS anyway. So the USL is hardly a sure investment either. The average attendance for USL games, by the way, is around 5000 people.

I was not aware of the newly formed league. Even then, it will still be another draw to Lansdowne which is a good thing for the site and the city.

So people are smart to be worried about the viability of the sports teams at Lansdowne. The fact that the city is footing the entire bill for the renovations makes me nervous too. Greenberg keeps saying, 'how can you ask us to invest in the stadium if we don't own it?', but that's a disingenuous argument. He has no problem investing in stores build on land he doesn't own. In fact it's fairly normal retail practice for tenants, such as restaurants, to purchase the fixtures they need for a rented space. It seems fair to ask OSEG to invest in the aspects of the stadium that they feel are necessary for pro sports, things like a video scoreboard, media centre, upgraded changing rooms. Doing so would give us some assurance that they aren't going to walk away from the sports team once their 5 year guarantee is over.

While I can understand your concerns, it's been shown in reports that the financial model is sound, the city retains ownership of the land, and turns a handsome profit on Lansdowne while doing something useful with Lansdowne.

[umbria27]

Originally Posted by Jamaican-Phoenix

True, things don't always go as planned but this is still the most positive proposal we've seen for some time. As for the CFL being the anchor tenant, that is only half-true. There are the Ottawa 67's in the basement, remember?



No it isn't and to believe so is rather dangerous.



I'm not even talking about the Rolling Stones. I'm talking about Green Day, Alice Cooper, AC/DC, Aerosmith, Bob Dylan, Metallica and Our Lady Peace. All those bands(along with others), many of them fairly recently, have all performed at Lansdowne Park and/or the Civic Centre.



I was not aware of the newly formed league. Even then, it will still be another draw to Lansdowne which is a good thing for the site and the city.



While I can understand your concerns, it's been shown in reports that the financial model is sound, the city retains ownership of the land, and turns a handsome profit on Lansdowne while doing something useful with Lansdowne.

The CFL team is the anchor tenant for the stadium (as opposed to the arena). Without the team this proposal would not exist. We would not be building a 24,000 seat stadium for concerts or for a soccer league that draws 5000 people a game.

I can't vouch for all the music acts you listed, but of the ones I know - Green Day, AC/DC and Bob Dylan actually played Scotiabank Place last time they visited, and likely would do so again even if Lansdowne renovated. Most big tours are sized for an arena like Scotiabank Place where you are not at the mercy of the weather and you can better control the acoustics.

...so we would be wise to do something that ensures that this anchor tenant is around for the length of the financing (40 years). Requiring direct upfront investment in the stadium renovation is the best way to do that.

As for the Auditor General's report, I think you are misrepresenting it. Nobody, not even the proposal's biggest boosters, is claiming that the city will turn "a handsome profit". The AG did not conclude that the model was sound. That's not what he was asked to do. He was asked to review the underlying assumptions (such as the retail return rate) and he concluded that they were accurate. In media interviews, he stresses that this does not mean it's a good deal.

[Davis137]

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[waterloowarrior]

On CBC evening news they talked about the Lansdowne discussion getting fairly heated today, Councillor Monette was allegedly "poked" by Councillor Cullen

[c_speed3108]

In related news tonight the board of governors of Carleton University approved the return of the Carleton ravens football team. The team will be sponsored by donors lead by former Ravens cornerback John Ruddy, who is also part of the OSEG.

Pandy game back at Lansdowne???? U of O on the North Side and Carleton on the south as before?

Carleton aims to bring back football in 2012


Canwest News Service June 24, 2010 10:02 PM

Read more: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Ca...#ixzz0rpUvJXfO


OTTAWA — If all goes well, Carleton Ravens football will be back on the field in 2012 as a result of a vote Thursday night by the university’s board of governors.

“There was a great feeling from people that they wanted to see this come back,” Carleton University president Roseann O’Reilly Runte said. “The people who are supporters of this are strongly in support.”

A team will play in Canadian Interuniversity Sport for the first time in 13 years if the board of governors can reach its fundraising goal of $5 million and convince senior administration the team is financially sustainable in the long run. The university made a highly unpopular decision to scrap the team in 1999 because it was draining a large portion of the athletics budget without producing a lot of wins.

This time around, alumni are helping out with the budget. Former Ravens cornerback John Ruddy has pledged his support as the lead donor and the board has already raised at least half of the $5 million required to bring the team back.

Runte said she has been working on reviving the team since she started the job in 2008. A survey showing student support for bringing football back convinced her the time was right, she said.

“The majority of the students said they would like to have football here and they said they would attend games,” Runte said.

Football is a valuable tool for community building at a university, Runte said.

“I believe that stellar athletes are part of the university community and I believe that sports bring people together.”

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[jemartin]

Originally Posted by c_speed3108

In related news tonight the board of governors of Carleton University approved the return of the Carleton ravens football team. The team will be sponsored by donors lead by former Ravens cornerback John Ruddy, who is also part of the OSEG.

Pandy game back at Lansdowne???? U of O on the North Side and Carleton on the south as before?

Better still.

Take the O-Train from the Campus right into Bayview Stadium!

[c_speed3108]

Originally Posted by jemartin

Better still.

Take the O-Train from the Campus right into Bayview Stadium!

But then you would not have the student marches along the canal in both directions meeting at the stadium.

[waterloowarrior]

Lansdowne proposal gives developers 30-year monopoly on new stadium

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/sports/...107/story.html
BY NECO COCKBURN , THE OTTAWA CITIZEN JUNE 25, 2010 8:02 AM COMMENTS (14)

OTTAWA — The president of Senators Sports and Entertainment isn’t happy with clauses in the proposed Lansdowne redevelopment agreement that he says would effectively give the Ottawa Sports and Entertainment Group a monopoly over stadiums and arenas during the next 30 years.

Cyril Leeder says the clauses unfairly benefit OSEG, which is working with the city on the proposed redevelopment that includes refurbishment of Frank Clair Stadium along with retail and residential development.

Under the proposed agreement, the city couldn’t build a new stadium facility “which competes with the Lansdowne stadium” (is more than 5,000 seats) for 30 years unless it terminated its agreement. (A private party could still build a stadium if the city didn’t participate, council has been told).

Another clause would also give OSEG – which would own the CFL team playing at Lansdowne – the first chance to lease the competing new stadium if it contained football facilities. OSEG, also owners of the OHL team at the Urbandale Centre, would also have the first opportunity to lease the competing stadium if it had hockey facilities.

Leeder told the Citizen in an e-mail that “the city should not grant a stadium or arena exclusive to OSEG.” He called it “unfair and inappropriate” to do so when the city would fund the stadium refurbishment and Senators Sports and Entertainment has “an ongoing proposal for a soccer stadium.”

Ottawa Senators owner Eugene Melnyk previously proposed his own stadium for professional soccer in Kanata, to be built beside Scotiabank Place. Melnyk wanted city support, but Lansdowne was council’s priority.

Leeder, who also sent a separate e-mail to city councillors, added that “the sports and entertainment scene in Ottawa will change dramatically over next five, 10 and 30 years. The city should not handcuff themselves or future councils.”

Kitchissippi Councillor Christine Leadman asked Thursday about the clauses and whether the city was “granting a monopoly on football in the stadiums to the CFL partnership for 30 years.”

City manager Kent Kirkpatrick said that was the case.

OSEG partner Roger Greenberg said there’s a limited number of events that can take place at a stadium and it wouldn’t make sense for the city – OSEG’s partner – to fund a competitor.

“It stands to reason from our perspective that if a new stadium is erected by the city, with the limited number of events that could possibly come to a stadium, it would have a very detrimental effect on the existing stadium, and that would affect both ourselves and the city as partners in the operations of the stadium,” he said.

Greenberg said it’s best to sort out during initial negotiations how to deal with events that may happen down the road, rather than working out the details when they occur.

“We try to provide for, in the agreement, how would they be resolved so that we don’t end up in court over the matter. This was something that came up,” he said.

During the 30 years that OSEG would have a lease on the Lansdowne stadium, “you would not want your own partner to go out and to create a competitive situation somewhere else. I think that’s a very normal commercial term when parties are negotiating with each other,” Greenberg said.

[ajldub]

This deal just gets more and more complicated.

[umbria27]

Originally Posted by waterloowarrior

Lansdowne proposal gives developers 30-year monopoly on new stadium

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/sports/...107/story.html
BY NECO COCKBURN , THE OTTAWA CITIZEN JUNE 25, 2010 8:02 AM COMMENTS (14)

[snip]
Under the proposed agreement, the city couldn’t build a new stadium facility “which competes with the Lansdowne stadium” (is more than 5,000 seats) for 30 years unless it terminated its agreement. (A private party could still build a stadium if the city didn’t participate, council has been told).

Another clause would also give OSEG – which would own the CFL team playing at Lansdowne – the first chance to lease the competing new stadium if it contained football facilities. OSEG, also owners of the OHL team at the Urbandale Centre, would also have the first opportunity to lease the competing stadium if it had hockey facilities.

[snip]

This is deviously clever actually. Seems OSEG aren't fully convinced that Lansdowne is the best place in Ottawa to build a stadium. This clause gives them (and only them) the opportunity to come back to the city for more subsidies at another location.

Let's say that in five years the worst case traffic and transit projections mean that the CFL team is having trouble filling its stadium... OSEG can come back to the city and say, 'You know, we tried to make a go of it at Lansdowne, but it's just not a stadium we can succeed in. We're going to have to fold the team unless we find a new place to play, somewhere on a rapid transit line, so how about we have a new "partnership" '. The city will once again be extorted by its sole source football provider.

[c_speed3108]

Originally Posted by umbria27

This is deviously clever actually. Seems OSEG aren't fully convinced that Lansdowne is the best place in Ottawa to build a stadium. This clause gives them (and only them) the opportunity to come back to the city for more subsidies at another location.

Let's say that in five years the worst case traffic and transit projections mean that the CFL team is having trouble filling its stadium... OSEG can come back to the city and say, 'You know, we tried to make a go of it at Lansdowne, but it's just not a stadium we can succeed in. We're going to have to fold the team unless we find a new place to play, somewhere on a rapid transit line, so how about we have a new "partnership" '. The city will once again be extorted by its sole source football provider.

I doubt they would be able to garner any support for another CFL stadium any time soon after this one is built.

I think they have a couple others on their mind:

1) MLS. basically they would like them as a tenant. They are trying to setup a scenario where it would be more attractive so play at Lansdowne than some other facility that whatever owner would have to pay 100% for.

2) Scotiabank place. Scotiabank place turns 15 this winter. Roll ahead 20 or 25 years and we will have a pretty dated arena. (compare to the age of the south side upper deck now...) thus the kick will be on for a new one. Lets say the city decided to offer some money or land or something to build a new one that happens to be in a better location. What does that do to the civic centre and being able to attract events?


That said the OSEG groups reactions don't seem to indicate they care too much about this clause...so we shall see. I suspect most of this one will be gone by Monday...or at the very least only a watered-down version will remain.

[c_speed3108]

Originally Posted by waterloowarrior

Lansdowne proposal gives developers 30-year monopoly on new stadium

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/sports/...107/story.html
BY NECO COCKBURN , THE OTTAWA CITIZEN JUNE 25, 2010 8:02 AM COMMENTS (14)

OTTAWA — The president of Senators Sports and Entertainment isn’t happy with clauses in the proposed Lansdowne redevelopment agreement that he says would effectively give the Ottawa Sports and Entertainment Group a monopoly over stadiums and arenas during the next 30 years.

Cyril Leeder says the clauses unfairly benefit OSEG, which is working with the city on the proposed redevelopment that includes refurbishment of Frank Clair Stadium along with retail and residential development.

Under the proposed agreement, the city couldn’t build a new stadium facility “which competes with the Lansdowne stadium” (is more than 5,000 seats) for 30 years unless it terminated its agreement. (A private party could still build a stadium if the city didn’t participate, council has been told).

Another clause would also give OSEG – which would own the CFL team playing at Lansdowne – the first chance to lease the competing new stadium if it contained football facilities. OSEG, also owners of the OHL team at the Urbandale Centre, would also have the first opportunity to lease the competing stadium if it had hockey facilities.

Leeder told the Citizen in an e-mail that “the city should not grant a stadium or arena exclusive to OSEG.” He called it “unfair and inappropriate” to do so when the city would fund the stadium refurbishment and Senators Sports and Entertainment has “an ongoing proposal for a soccer stadium.”

Ottawa Senators owner Eugene Melnyk previously proposed his own stadium for professional soccer in Kanata, to be built beside Scotiabank Place. Melnyk wanted city support, but Lansdowne was council’s priority.

Leeder, who also sent a separate e-mail to city councillors, added that “the sports and entertainment scene in Ottawa will change dramatically over next five, 10 and 30 years. The city should not handcuff themselves or future councils.”

Kitchissippi Councillor Christine Leadman asked Thursday about the clauses and whether the city was “granting a monopoly on football in the stadiums to the CFL partnership for 30 years.”

City manager Kent Kirkpatrick said that was the case.

OSEG partner Roger Greenberg said there’s a limited number of events that can take place at a stadium and it wouldn’t make sense for the city – OSEG’s partner – to fund a competitor.

“It stands to reason from our perspective that if a new stadium is erected by the city, with the limited number of events that could possibly come to a stadium, it would have a very detrimental effect on the existing stadium, and that would affect both ourselves and the city as partners in the operations of the stadium,” he said.

Greenberg said it’s best to sort out during initial negotiations how to deal with events that may happen down the road, rather than working out the details when they occur.

“We try to provide for, in the agreement, how would they be resolved so that we don’t end up in court over the matter. This was something that came up,” he said.

During the 30 years that OSEG would have a lease on the Lansdowne stadium, “you would not want your own partner to go out and to create a competitive situation somewhere else. I think that’s a very normal commercial term when parties are negotiating with each other,” Greenberg said.

This clause has now been removed.

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Exclusi...634/story.html

http://www.ottawasun.com/news/ottawa.../14518786.html

[Franky]

I heard on the radio today, CBC, that Cyril Leeder was talking to the MLS people while in LA for the NHL draft pick.

[RTWAP]

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Ot...162/story.html

Almost two-thirds of Ottawa residents support the plan to redevelop Lansdowne Park, according to a poll commissioned by the Citizen.

Even in central Ottawa, where opposition to the proposed redevelopment has been most vocal, 51 per cent were slightly in favour of the deal -- "a dead heat," said Mike Colledge, president of public affairs for pollster Ipsos Reid.

While 63 per cent said they either "strongly" or "somewhat" support the project, the yeas had it in neighbourhoods right across the city.

A whopping 73 per cent in the east side support the deal, with 67-per-cent support in the west and 63 per cent in the south.

Although the overall city results are accurate to within plus or minus 4.5 percentage points, the margin of error in the local breakdowns is higher.

Indeed, Colledge said if the area sample were larger, he would expect "a lot of opposition in the Glebe," where Lansdowne in located.

Still, he said he found the level of favour for the deal somewhat surprising.

"I would have thought there would have been lower support in the east and the west because people think they're not going to benefit that much from it."

The Lansdowne project is a proposed partnership between the city and the Ottawa Sports and Entertainment Group, which hopes to bring a CFL team to Ottawa and pay for it with commercial and residential development on the site.

The plan calls for the refurbishment of Frank Clair Stadium and construction of a publicly funded urban park on the west side of the Rideau Canal.

It's a complicated deal, so it's not surprising that respondents gave a wide variety of reasons for liking it -- or not.

When asked an open-ended question about why they supported or opposed Lansdowne, more than one-quarter of those in favour said they think the plan would revitalize the Lansdowne area, while another 23 per cent believed it was a good deal.

It's interesting to note that only five per cent of supporters cited bringing a CFL team to Ottawa as their reason, although that was the initial

impetus for the process two years ago.

Those opposed were even more divided. About 12 per cent believe the plan is a bad financial deal for the city, and another 12 per cent think the traffic and transportation issues are too big of a challenge.

Another 11 per cent think the redevelopment will destroy local businesses, and

11 per cent don't trust the process.

About six per cent of those opposed have concerns about heritage issues, while four per cent believe design plans are poor.

When stating their reasons for or against, a significant number of respondents fall into the "other" category: 38 per cent for supporters and 35 per cent for opponents. That means that too few people gave a similar answer to qualify as a category.

"That says to me that there are a lot of reasons why people support or oppose the plan," Colledge said. "This is progress versus process.... Typically, progress trumps process. People want to see things done."

The date for doing something may be Monday, June 28.

That's the day when councillors are heading into what is promising to be a marathon debate -- and potential vote -- on whether to go ahead with the Lansdowne plan.

However, a significant minority of residents believe the proposal should be an election issue this fall.

A little more than half of respondents said they would like councillors to vote on the Lansdowne question on Monday, but 46 per cent said council should hold off until after the Oct. 25 municipal election before making a decision.

That means that even people who are in favour of the Lansdowne proposal also think it should be a campaign issue.

At least a couple of councillors believe putting off the vote is desirable, too.

On Friday, Bay Councillor Alex Cullen -- who is running for mayor -- announced that he plans to move a motion Monday to defer consideration of the Lansdowne plan until January, when a new council is in place.

However, just because a significant portion of residents want to see Lansdowne debated during an election does not mean people are undecided, Colledge said, pointing out that the supporters outnumber the opponents two-to-one.

Instead, he thinks that's just Ottawa.

"If there's any place in the country that's used to political process and wanting to hear what election folks have to say, it's Ottawa," said Colledge, who lives in the city.

This poll is the latest indication that council is moving toward a "yes" vote on Monday.

Councillors have not said or done anything -- at least publicly -- to indicate they will change their thinking from November, when they voted 15-9 in favour of moving forward on a Lansdowne deal with OSEG.

Christine Leadman, the councillor for Kitchissippi, plans to move a motion to remove 50,000 square feet of commercial space from the site designs. However, even if it passes, she won't vote for the deal for a number of reasons, she said.

"I am only working to try to make the plan better if it does get approved."

In fact, it appears that politicians, city staff, activists and OSEG partners are working to make the deal as palatable for as many parties as possible.

The Glebe Business Improvement Area, which has been critical of the proposal, suggested to council Friday that, if the city goes forward with the deal, it should build a parking garage on existing municipal land between Second and Third avenues.

The Glebe BIA also wants a shuttle service to kick in for any event with more than 12,000 spectators, instead of the proposed 25,000.

River Councillor Maria McRae convinced local activist Adrian Evans to work on a motion with her that would address the community's concerns about how the Lansdowne redevelopment would adversely affect their neighbourhood park.

On Friday afternoon, following an outcry from some councillors and Senators Sports and Entertainment, OSEG agreed to remove a clause that would have stopped the city from building another large stadium over the next 30 years.

Although opposition to Lansdowne has been fierce over the past few months, Colledge said supporters "don't need to rally the troops if it looks like it's going ahead."

Indeed, he said, it looks as if the project is supported by "a silent majority."

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Methodology

These are the findings of an Ipsos Reid poll conducted on behalf of the Citizen from June 22 to 24.

For the survey, a representative randomly selected sample of 500 adults living in Ottawa was interviewed by telephone. With a sample of this size, the results are considered accurate to within plus or minus 4.5 percentage points, 19 times out of 20, of what they would have been had the entire adult population of Ottawa been polled. The margin of error will be larger within regions and for other sub-groupings of the survey population.

These data were weighted to ensure that the sample's and age and sex composition reflects that of the actual Ottawa population according to Census data.

All sample surveys and polls may be subject to other sources of error, including, but not limited to coverage error, and measurement error.

The regions considered were:

Central Ottawa, which includes Kitchissippi, Rideau-Vanier, Capital and Somerset wards.

West Ottawa, which includes Bay, College, West Carleton-March, Kanata-South, Kanata North, Knoxdale Merivale, Stittsville-Kanata West.

East Ottawa, which includes Innes, Beacon Hill-Cyrville, Cumberland, Rideau-Rockliffe, Orléans.

South Ottawa, which includes Gloucester-South Nepean, Rideau-Goulbourn, Barrhaven, River, Osgoode, Alta Vista, Gloucester-Southgate.