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Originally Posted by combusean
^ There is no way to estimate, really.... but when you think about it, 44 monroe has 200 or so units in 26? actual residential floors.
The theoretical cityscape apartment addition's footprint is somewhat larger, but starts higher, and has 20% more units ...
I think if it does happen and that number is real it will be the new tallest for Phoenix. Rough estimates aside, 540' is what they've been saying all along for the total tower...if they are to be believed yadda yadda yadda.
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I really doubt that it would be the tallest.
With a 100ft x 200ft footprint , you could possibly get a maximum of 20 units per floor (assuming 16 800-900sf units and 4 1000sf units). That's only 12 more floors. That's the low end.
Or 10 1200sf units with 4 1000sf end units = 14 per floor. That's still only 17-18 more floors.
Or 8 1600sf units with 4 1000sf end units = 12 per floor. That's 20 floors.
Or 6 2100sf units with 2 2000sf end units = 8 per floor. That's 30 floors.
Lets assume this is some uber luxury apartment tower (8 per floor) and that the existing hotel stump is maybe 140ft tall, that means the maximum height of this new tower could be is 140 + 300 + 25 (mech) = 465ft!
The apartment market is strong, but not that strong.
I'd presume that there will likely be some mix like this:
1 penthouse floor: 4-5 units
5 floors with 8 units per floor = 40
8 floors with 12 per floor = 96
5 floors with 20 per floor = 100
That's 19 new floors on top of the stump for a rough total of 140 + 190 + 25 (mech) = 355ft.
This also presumes that the apartment floors take up most of the footprint of the existing stump (which all previous renderings of condos showed it doing).
So while I'd love to believe that Cityscape would someday yield a new tallest, the numbers the way they are talking don't pencil.
Just my thoughts, I'm probably totally wrong, but I really enjoy these types of exercises.