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Old Posted Mar 16, 2012, 11:44 PM
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My goodness! I never realized how close we are to topping out!

Yup, but this picture is a little misleading, the triangle corners will come together right below the communications ring, not 40 feet below

     
     
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2012, 12:07 AM
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but as i've undestood, the freedom tower will have around 75 REAL floors.
It's simple to say that the cubic base is 20 floor-high, but actually it has... 6 floors. Not 20.
Same for the floors from 93 to 101: where are they ? even if they have the height of two normal floors, they are not two...
There are not "ghost floors": they are or they are not.

It's like for the eiffel tower: it's 325 meters high, if we thought like the builders of the WTC we'd say "eiffel tower is 70-floor-high so it has 70 floors"...

...eiffel tower has just 3 floors.

the twin towers had 110 real fllors each one...
they were bigger in volume...
This tower has to have larger mechanical floors to fit into the requirements but still needs to be at the same height as the former Twins. We lost some floors, but it wasn't much.
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2012, 12:31 AM
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Columns are up to 93M or 1,223' 6'' Not floor 100. The twin towers average floor height was 12' Here they are 13, 4'' with very tall mechanical floors so less floors for the same height.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2012, 12:58 AM
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Columns are up to 93M or 1,223' 6'' Not floor 100. The twin towers average floor height was 12' Here they are 13, 4'' with very tall mechanical floors so less floors for the same height.
True. If the Twin Towers were built today their roof height would have been 1474 feet to meet the demands of today's buildings with A class office space and etc. It would have been much much taller, but remember the Twin Towers were ahead of it's time when it was built in the 1970's in terms of structure and etc. Today it would be extremely outdated to build like that.
     
     
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Yup, but this picture is a little misleading, the triangle corners will come together right below the communications ring, not 40 feet below

I'm pretty sure the corners line before they hit the roof...
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2012, 1:08 AM
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I am just going to post this link for you people that care about the Twin Towers.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...as-it-was.html

Now can we please stop talking about the Twin Towers? They are gone. You can't compare them to the new World Trade Center.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2012, 1:12 AM
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Yup, but this picture is a little misleading, the triangle corners will come together right below the communications ring, not 40 feet below
I get it, you'll never understand.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2012, 1:54 AM
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^huh...?


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I'm pretty sure the corners line before they hit the roof...
Nope... This is the most accurate.

     
     
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2012, 2:16 AM
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IMHO, this is an awesome picture, one of the best ever on the thousand-plus pages of this thread! The three cranes in formation, and T1 and T4 reaching for the sky.

Thanks to Big Apple for the repost. And also, it raises another interesting question: which one will top out first? With all the delays for T1 but T4 moving along at a very good clip, not to mention being far shorter, isn't it starting to look like T4 will finish its steel first? Anyone care to bet?
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2012, 2:16 AM
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That post is the most up to date. The corners come to a point at 1,368'
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2012, 2:21 AM
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IMHO, this is an awesome picture, one of the best ever on the thousand-plus pages of this thread! The three cranes in formation, and T1 and T4 reaching for the sky.

Thanks to Big Apple for the repost. And also, it raises another interesting question: which one will top out first? With all the delays for T1 but T4 moving along at a very good clip, not to mention being far shorter, isn't it starting to look like T4 will finish its steel first? Anyone care to bet?
It will be Tower 1. Tower 4 has lost it's second crane due to an accident and construction has slowed down a lot.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2012, 3:28 AM
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The upper corner nodes are located at the roof slab elevation, above that the perimeter columns extend to the parapet to provide support for the curtain wall. Again, the super diagonal columns get joined at the roof slab, not at the parapet, the stainless steel corners do get joined at the parapet.

As requested.

One WTC | Diagram Update | March 16th, 2011 by Otie O'Daniel, on Flickr | Larger version

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Old Posted Mar 17, 2012, 3:36 AM
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The upper corner nodes are located at the roof slab elevation, above that the perimeter columns extend to the parapet to provide support for the curtain wall. Again, the super diagonal columns get joined at the roof slab, not at the parapet, the stainless steel corners do get joined at the parapet.

As requested.

1 WTC | Diagram Update | March 16th, 2012 by Otie O'Daniel, on Flickr | Larger version
Oh my God I love it! This is great
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2012, 3:49 AM
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Otie: Have you seen other info that has floor 93M at 1,223' 6'' not 1,230' 6''

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Old Posted Mar 17, 2012, 4:21 AM
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Da f*ck just happened there! Oops, database error.. already fixed
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2012, 4:25 AM
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You know they say spiders grow bigger and faster at the top floors of the 1,127 ft John Hancock Center! I can't even imagine how big they are going to be on top of the 1,373 ft WTC!
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2012, 4:48 AM
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[QUOTE=NewYorkSkyline117;5629067][QUOTE=CarlosV;5628544]Steel erected!!!!


DSC_0140 copy by Ceva321, on Flickrd

If you look at the column on the right near the top you can see the spot where the beams for 93M connect.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2012, 4:53 AM
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Wait te top if the structure as of today is 1,234 feet as in your diagram otie or 1,223 feet?
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2012, 6:19 AM
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Where will the window washing machine go? Or will this building even have one?
This will have one, BUT unlike the Twins which had custom made washers, this one will have a simple standard window washer, since the facade isn't so complex.
     
     
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Sharing this rendering from the Hudson Yards thread...










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