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that is one sad-looking mall, but thank goodness new york finally got a Uniqlo... overall a pretty depressing spectacle SHOP SHOP SHOP
Can't tell if being sarcastic, but new york already had multiple Uniqlo's before this one... check, Google Maps, they are all throughout the suburbs too.
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that is one sad-looking mall, but thank goodness new york finally got a Uniqlo... overall a pretty depressing spectacle SHOP SHOP SHOP
Uniqlo has been in NYC for around 15 years. And this shopping complex is about as nice as any on the planet.
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that is one sad-looking mall, but thank goodness new york finally got a Uniqlo... overall a pretty depressing spectacle SHOP SHOP SHOP
Huh? Seems like you need a nap buddy
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2019, 4:16 PM
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that is one sad-looking mall, but thank goodness new york finally got a Uniqlo... overall a pretty depressing spectacle SHOP SHOP SHOP

nyc has a bunch of uniqlo's already, including the first global flagship shop that opened in soho in 2006.

aaaand i can't believe i just looked that up and wrote that lol.
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The mall will feed on the surrounding population/projected workforce/business population (which will have money), but most importantly, tourists.
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2019, 6:57 PM
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NYC has had a Uniqlo for quite a while now.

Edit: Someone beat me to it. I guess I shouldn't just snapshoot replies

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I thought this was somewhat harsh: https://www.dezeen.com/2019/03/19/hu...GPJjMoBecJ3XqQ Is Hudson Yards human-scaled and welcoming like Tribeca? No. It doesn't have its charm. Does it have that bucolic allure of Upper Fifth Avenue or Central Park West? No again. It wouldn't be where I'd live. But it is it's own thing. It is somewhat awe-inspiring in its scale and ambition, does incorporate green space, and will draw toursists and revenue and residents to the city. It is a small slice of New York. Not everything has to be the same or appeal to all walks of life. Sheesh. I will definitely check it out when I'm back in NYC in a couple weeks.
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Old Posted Mar 25, 2019, 10:30 AM
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that is one sad-looking mall, but thank goodness new york finally got a Uniqlo... overall a pretty depressing spectacle SHOP SHOP SHOP
Maybe it looks sad in pictures, but in person the experience I think is quite pleasant, I prefer it to Columbus Circle. Definitely has this vibrant feeling which is nice.
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Old Posted Mar 25, 2019, 10:38 AM
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^ hmm, i prefer columbus circle. its much more open. hy is more of a typical, familiar mall.



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https://nypost.com/2019/03/23/the-ar...rds-all-wrong/
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Old Posted Mar 25, 2019, 4:41 PM
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^ It's what I've been saying basically.

From that article...


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how come Hudson Yards is full of smiling, selfie-snapping strollers who can’t get enough of the place? The No. 7 subway line, which was often near-empty west of Times Square, is so crowded since the complex opened March 15 that it could do with more trains. Everyone’s clamoring to climb The Vessel, restaurants are full and seven floors of stores both expensive and cheap are teeming with shoppers and browsers.

If history teaches us anything about new urban architecture, it’s this: Ignore the critics and follow the crowds. New Yorkers love most every new project that’s sneered at by architecture snobs.



Meanwhile, glad the next phase of this park is finally moving forward.




https://therealdeal.com/2019/03/25/t...hts-for-tower/

Tishman Speyer’s park gift will give developer air rights for tower
Purchase of property housing auto-shop will ultimately benefit office project






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Tishman Speyer quietly bought a run down auto-shop last week, and plans to build an elaborate park on the city’s Far West Side.

In return, the city awarded the developer unspecified air rights for a planned office tower that is slated to be built on the same block, next to the Jacob Javits Center on 11th Avenue, according to the New York Post.

Tishman Speyer, led by Rob Speyer, paid $20.14 million for the park site, a two-story warehouse at 527 West 36th St. It will be redeveloped as a park, and help build out a planned greenway to span West 33rd and 39th streets. It will be built over rail yards currently occupying the site.
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The area was renamed Bella Abzug Park last week, changed from its initial name, Hudson Yards Park. Tishman Speyer reportedly received the air rights under a city incentive known as the District Improvement Bonus, which aims to encourage development in the Hudson Yards District.

In September the city said it planned to spend $374 million developing the park — more than $124 million per acre.

Tishman Speyer hasn’t filed any plans for the tower next to the park, but in 2016 the company said the development would span 1.3 million square feet and contain retail. It would be Tishman Speyer’s second tower the developer has built in Hudson Yards, where it plans 4 million square feet.




https://nypost.com/2019/03/24/tishma...la-abzug-park/

Tishman Speyer’s secret purchase paves way for expanded Bella Abzug Park




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Tishman Speyer, which plans a massive new building across from the Javits Center on Eleventh Avenue, is set to deliver a gift to the city — and receive a gift in return.

The developer last week quietly bought 527 W. 36th St., a two-story auto repair building, for $20.14 million, city Finance Dept. records revealed.

The unpublicized purchase is tiny by Manhattan standards. But it paves the way for the next segment of lushly landscaped Bella Abzug Park, which was renamed from its original Hudson Yards Park last week.
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The company led by Rob Speyer will raze the small building. It will then construct a greenway between West 36th and West 37th streets and west of 10th Avenue. Park segments between West 33rd and West 36th streets are already open.

The completed park, which is being built one block at a time, will end at West 39th Street.

The new section will replace a current eyesore of sunken rail tracks and empty lots.

In exchange, Tishman Speyer is to receive as-yet unspecified air rights from the city to put up a tower on the same block, which is bounded by Tenth and Eleventh avenues and West 36th and 37th streets.
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“Tishman Speyer is building and paying to construct the park,” Department of Parks spokeswoman Crystal Howard told The Post.

“As part of the Hudson Yards zoning framework, Tishman Speyer will receive development rights for their contribution.”

She said that the city will pay for yet-to-come park segments between West 37th and West 39th streets “unless another developer chooses to similarly perform an in-kind contribution.”

Tishman Speyer held off on buying 527 W. 36th St. until a park design by landscape architects Michael Van Valkenburgh Associates was approved by the Parks Department and other city agencies.

The developer will turn the completed park over to the city. Its construction cost is unknown. Work is to start late this year or early in 2020.






In this photo I took from the Vessel last week, you can see the building, right on target to be demolished, Robert Moses style...



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Old Posted Mar 25, 2019, 11:40 PM
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That's too bad. The old building they want to extinguish is kinda nice.

Would make for a more interesting park feature if they rehabbed it into a bar / cafe, with outdoor seating around it.

Better than the monotony of granite-pavers-and-benches that is Bella Azbug Park.

Much as I think Van Valkenburgh was innovative 10 years ago, he's beginning to feel a bit like a ubiquitous one-horse pony. Preserving that building as a restaurant would've given the park a little bit of a refined, Old World / European feel...
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Preserving that building as a restaurant would've given the park a little bit of a refined, Old World / European feel...
Because nothing says "Old World European feel" like a two floor taxpayer with an auto body shop.

Hopefully, Tishman Speyer will redeem themselves. They were originally awarded the West Side Railyards, but withdrew during the last recession, and Related replaced them. They better bring their A game and give NYC a new West Side landmark.
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definitely agree on the sterile monotony of the park space, but that little building is not the antidote. i dk what the answer to that is, but for now gaining a little more park is better.
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That's too bad. The old building they want to extinguish is kinda nice.

Would make for a more interesting park feature if they rehabbed it into a bar / cafe, with outdoor seating around it.

Better than the monotony of granite-pavers-and-benches that is Bella Azbug Park.

Much as I think Van Valkenburgh was innovative 10 years ago, he's beginning to feel a bit like a ubiquitous one-horse pony. Preserving that building as a restaurant would've given the park a little bit of a refined, Old World / European feel...
Ha, I'm all for preservation in the right circumstances. But that shitty old autobody shop? Come on...

The space could be much better utilized both architecturally and using the 3d nature of NYC space.
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The open p[aza...


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Tishman Speyer’s park gift will give developer air rights for tower
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Tower related to the park...


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A 1910 packing plant subsumed by Hudson Yards





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For more than a century, the two-story building at 527-531 West 36th Street held its own with its neighbors in this once-industrial part of Manhattan—away from more traditional retail stores and apartment buildings in the far west 30s.

It’s an unusual survivor that looks a lot older than records reveal.

Apparently constructed by 1910 (though one 1902 newspaper article said it was supposed to have five stories), the brick building has large arched windows and ornamental trim on the second floor.

One of its earliest occupants was a fruit packing plant; another business was Rohe and Brothers, a wholesale beef and pork provisions company.

It makes sense that Rohe operated here; West 36th Street is three blocks from what used to be known as Abattoir Place because of all the slaughterhouses that turned cattle brought to the West Side via rail or ferry into beef.

A milk distributor and pasteurization company operated here in the 1940s. Soon the food packers and distributors were replaced by auto body businesses, like Steven and Francine’s, whose sign hangs on the building’s boarded-up second floor.

Recently, this humble holdout in the shadow of Hudson Yards’ steel and glass luxury towers was sold to Tishman Speyer for $20 million. The real estate developer plans to turn the site into a park in exchange for air rights for another office tower going up next door.

It’s one of the last remaining vestiges of the far west 30s (at the recently named “Hudson Boulevard”) on the fringes of Manhattan. But it won’t be here much longer.








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