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Originally Posted by azsunsurfer
Actually as a professional with ties to the development community I was never formally welcomed to the forum as so many others have been, even though I have contributed with updates with the on-goings of valley development. So since I am treated as a "random" person I have chose to be blunt especially when ignorance on this forum is denuded.
Now back to the program. Article I read today about a new Tesla plant in the valley, yet I'm sure the wages will be too low per the consensus of our many economic experts that placate this forum....
http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/n...nning-for.html |
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What? Did you post that you were new to the forum and share information on your professional career, ties to the community, or any other details you thought would be interesting? I'm going to assume no, in which case I'm sorry you were under the impression that there would be some kind of special welcome party following your first comment. I've only posted for about a year and didn't receive (or expect) anything to that affect, nor have I seen that happen to any other poster who hadn't outright specified that they were new.
The majority of posts are on development or related issues, and I would think that it is fairly obvious to everyone that we are all appreciative of all information that is shared; this is a fairly niche interest, especially in Phoenix, and so at one point or another, we have all been able to contribute something. So, again, I'm not sure what kind of treatment or reaction you had been wanting, but you aren't the only one not being praised for every nugget of info dropped.
Lastly, I suppose you can choose to behave any way you wish, but I don't believe being blunt would in anyway increase your chances of being welcomed or appreciated, both of which seem to be important to you. It also won't help rid the board of any alleged ignorance, which I assume you meant to state as your goal of being blunt, though you said the exact opposite (denuded means "free of;" so, you said you were choosing to be blunt because the forum was free of ignorance.). Ignorance would be insulting a poster in a thread for no reason, even more so if you were to call them "random," when in fact they have been 66x more relevant than yourself by way of being part of more than 400 posts.
Back To Apple and the Southeast Valley
I'll wait for confirmation on the job specifics, including wages, before saying this isn't great news for the Valley. Regardless, the name and brand itself having a presence in our state to this capacity can only mean positive things. We need to continue to to attract out of state companies/corporations, and continue generating jobs that are attractive to post-graduates to try and diminish the brain drain that plagues Arizona. If all goes well, do you guys think there is potential for them to expand in the future by either adding or moving other (hopefully higher-paying) services here?
I guess it makes sense for this particular kind of job to go into a suburban location, but I do wish that there was more of an emphasis placed on creating employment hubs instead of allowing it to continually sprawl based on cheap land - from Chandler's Price Corridor to Desert Ridge's Biomedical Campus that the mayor keeps unfortunately touting the potential of. It's unfortunate that
Downtown Phoenix never seems to be a player when new names come to town, and the mayor (and everyone with a part in shaping our economy through luring business from out of state - ACA, Brewer, etc.) really needs to get it back in the game and understand why a Desert Ridge Biomedical Campus win is less beneficial for Phoenix than downtown when looking at the big picture.
In the meantime, it's obvious employment will continue to be attracted toward East Valley cities, so hopefully they'll at least go for Chandler and Tempe, the two landlocked options. I'm glad Tempe was able to land USA Place and State Farm for downtown, as it seemed like they had abandoned the area for quite a while in favor of areas like Fountainhead and their piece of Price, as buildings like Gateway sat empty forever and 14-story structures were being constructed along the Broadway curve. I hope the momentum continues, because they could lead the way in keeping our educated post-grad population here given ASU's presence. Getting more names to invest along the lake or down Ash would be amazing, and while I continue to question some of their choices when it comes to transit and residential planning, I do think they are actively trying to get it right and have the most faith in them to be able to handle that kind of growth in a way we would all say is ideal and "urban."
Chandler, on the other hand, could learn a thing or two. The Price Corridor might be their employment "hub," but there's nothing centralized or condensed about it. Is there zoning for any kind of dense, multifamily residential in that area at least? I assume a rail transit system in Chandler that is robust enough to connect the corridor to their downtown, residential areas, and to Mesa light rail isn't even worth thought? It seems like Chandler is so proud of its downtown, it's a shame they won't treat it like an urban center instead of just a quaint Main St.
Rant over.
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