SAN DIEGO | Boom Rundown, Vol. 2 - Page 657

ArquitectoMontenegro · #**13121** Posted **Dec 14, 2017, 11:45 PM**

11th and Broadway looks active, has looked active for about a week or so. It looks like they're gutting/prepping the old 2 story apartment building for relocation and there is heavy machinery sitting on site, presumably to start tearing out the parking lot and start digging.

The Broadway building you're talking about, between 6th and 7th is being renovated for residential use, I heard that rumor about a year ago?

Farkas Displays is probably going to stay there forever. That building is an eyesore but it is a good example of early cast-in-place concrete, it's pretty intricate if you get up close to it but the way it is painted now makes it look bland. The ugly metal screens over the window don't help either. They were probably put in place long before East Village got re-zoned from industrial to residential/mixed-use. Now that there are residents and more nightlife around the area they should put some money into updating the windows and paint scheme, it doesn't have to look like a prison for display cases.

ArquitectoMontenegro · #**13122** Posted **Dec 14, 2017, 11:48 PM**

Oh, and the city put a call out for new proposals for the old Central Library after rejecting the previous proposals. The deadline for proposals is January 31st 2018.

mello · #**13123** Posted **Dec 15, 2017, 1:55 AM**

You have got to be kidding me about Farkas it totally causes a dead zone in that area and it needs to go. Has anyone every heard of any proposals for that property? Is a business actually operating there? Looks likes it been shuttered for years. Thanks for 11th and Broadway update. That Center cut of downtown will really fill in nicely with height (2 Broadway Projects, and the 2 Market St. Projects!)

S.DviaPhilly · #**13124** Posted **Dec 15, 2017, 10:20 PM**

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The Block has begun demolition was just at Krisp market last night and its underway so hopefully BOSA can construct this and his other tower at the foot of Broadway at the same time. Really hoping Pinnacle starts with their huge Broadway Project soon. Oh the guy at Krisp also said that the large Pre War Office tower at 7th and Broadway is being converted to residential, has anyone else heard this? It's the largest old office building in the City quite a behemoth.

Just walked by today and excited for the demolition!

mello · #**13125** Posted **Dec 15, 2017, 10:46 PM**

I also read on a SD Biz journal site that the entire block that holds New School of Architecture and some other ramshackle crappy structures from the 40's and 50's was sold a few months ago for 34$ dollars to a major developer. The school's lease ends in 2020 so look for plans to come out soon for that block and demo to start right when the lease ends.

superfishy · #**13126** Posted **Dec 16, 2017, 10:13 PM**

Does anyone know whats happening with the project next to City College where the old Chinese restaurant used to be? There's been a hole in the ground there for months with no apparent progress. If I remember correctly, it was just supposed to be a low-rise apartment building.

embora · #**13127** Posted **Dec 17, 2017, 1:35 AM**

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Does anyone know whats happening with the project next to City College where the old Chinese restaurant used to be? There's been a hole in the ground there for months with no apparent progress. If I remember correctly, it was just supposed to be a low-rise apartment building.

Last I heard, the low-rise, which was to have two buildings (one on either side of an earthquake fault zone) was contemplating increasing the height of the eastern building from the 6+/- story original proposal to something much taller. I think it was 36 or 26 stories. There was also something about the developer having sold to another developer. This is what someone wrote on this thread. That was months ago, and I have no intel newer than that ... and the construction site continues to sit there.

superfishy · #**13128** Posted **Dec 18, 2017, 1:43 AM**

Interesting, and glad they're considering extra height for that site. Combined with the smart corner condos and the 11th and Broadway, we'll start seeing some density around there.

Xavier Cage · #**13129** Posted **Dec 19, 2017, 2:15 PM**

Prominent groups looking into building downtown San Diego arena
By Kevin Acee
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...218-story.html

The article mentions 3 groups looking into building an arena

The Padres
Henry Samueli - Owner of the Anaheim Ducks & San Diego Gulls
Joe Tsai - Co-founder of Alibaba & owner of NLL San Diego Seals

The article also mentions that the groups may be willing to work together on a new arena. I hope they do. I have always dreamed of another NBA franchise coming to San Diego. It would be the perfect fall/winter sport to replace the Chargers leaving. It would actually feel like San Diego has year-round sports again.

The Flying Dutchman · #**13130** Posted **Dec 20, 2017, 1:52 AM**

To quote the article (one of the developers) "It has gotten interesting".

It only takes 50%+1 to pass a private ballot initiative, now, folks. Remember this in your future years.

IconRPCV · #**13131** Posted **Dec 21, 2017, 5:54 AM**

I would gladly support either a NBA or NHL team. The Gulls make a nice name for either.

embora · #**13132** Posted **Dec 22, 2017, 1:41 AM**

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Just walked by today and excited for the demolition!

Here's coverage of Broadway Block, and preceding demolition, in the SDUT:

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...221-story.html

According to the article, the current projection is for the project to be open in the second half of 2020.

eburress · #**13133** Posted **Dec 22, 2017, 3:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by Xavier Cage

Prominent groups looking into building downtown San Diego arena
By Kevin Acee
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...218-story.html

The article mentions 3 groups looking into building an arena

The Padres
Henry Samueli - Owner of the Anaheim Ducks & San Diego Gulls
Joe Tsai - Co-founder of Alibaba & owner of NLL San Diego Seals

The article also mentions that the groups may be willing to work together on a new arena. I hope they do. I have always dreamed of another NBA franchise coming to San Diego. It would be the perfect fall/winter sport to replace the Chargers leaving. It would actually feel like San Diego has year-round sports again.

It's a wonder a new arena hasn't already been built but I'm definitely in favor of one happening now, and hopefully it would lure an NBA and/or NHL franchise to SD. As it is, the Sports Arena (or whatever they're calling it these days) is an embarrassment.

ScottSD · #**13134** Posted **Jan 1, 2018, 7:54 PM**

Happy New Year Everyone!

After visiting the San Diego International Auto Show on Sunday, I decided to walk around downtown and visit some of the new construction.

Ballpark Village by Scott, on Flickr

Alexan ALX by Scott, on Flickr

Unnamed Project at 460 16th Street by Scott, on Flickr

K1 by Scott, on Flickr

Pinnacle on the Park - Tower 2 by Scott, on Flickr

Unnamed Project at 372 4th Avenue (Old Cost Plus World Market) by Scott, on Flickr

Streamliner · #**13135** Posted **Jan 2, 2018, 4:48 PM**

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Happy New Year Everyone!

After visiting the San Diego International Auto Show on Sunday, I decided to walk around downtown and visit some of the new construction.

Thanks for the thorough update ScottSD! All of these projects are looking really good! Excited for the new Pinnacle twin to rise, I didn't realize it was that far along already.

superfishy · #**13136** Posted **Jan 2, 2018, 7:42 PM**

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Thanks for the thorough update ScottSD! All of these projects are looking really good! Excited for the new Pinnacle twin to rise, I didn't realize it was that far along already.

Red & Yellow: The McDonald's towers!

Why couldn't they have been blue or something...

ArquitectoMontenegro · #**13137** Posted **Jan 2, 2018, 10:24 PM**

Ever since the first renderings came out, I refer to the Pinnacle buildings as Ketchup and Mustard (bottles).

I wonder what happened to the Electrolux warehouse redevelopment plan, anyone know?

I think it was also called Laundry Tower or something at one point. It's that warehouse across the street on Island Ave, and 15th (across from Pinnacle's Ketchup bottle building) where they were going to restore the historic brick facade of half of that warehouse space and incorporate it into the residential tower's podium design.

mello · #**13138** Posted **Jan 2, 2018, 10:25 PM**

Cool pics I just am praying this economic cycle holds steady for another year and a half so we can see 7th and Market, 11th and Broadway with the 40 floor addition built out, Last BOSA tower on PCH in front of OAP go in, and Manchester PAC Gateway. I think those projects combined with what is already UC will give us a pretty respectable skyline. But if economy tanks it could scuttle a few of those projects.

What do you guys think about the 5th ave landing project en lieu of the CC expansion? Looks like those guys are pushing hard to get their hotel built.

ArquitectoMontenegro · #**13139** Posted **Jan 3, 2018, 12:13 AM**

I don't see why it has to be one or the other. To me it seems both could occur but the developers don't want to entertain the idea of collaborating.

The hotel seems like a recycled version of the convention center expansion, added a hotel, eliminated convention center space, and privatizes the whole thing. Instead of expanded convention center space and public rooftop gardens it would be a rooftop pool and gardens for the hotel and ballrooms probably.

One good thing the convention center does is afford an elevated viewing deck to appreciate the view of the bay. The hotel basically blocks the view of the bridge from the public.

If this is going to be a public vote for one or the other I'd vote for the convention center expansion. The public loses big if it just becomes another hotel. Privatization of prime public space while simultaneously degrading public amenities.

spoonman · #**13140** Posted **Jan 3, 2018, 12:23 AM**

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Cool pics I just am praying this economic cycle holds steady for another year and a half so we can see 7th and Market, 11th and Broadway with the 40 floor addition built out, Last BOSA tower on PCH in front of OAP go in, and Manchester PAC Gateway. I think those projects combined with what is already UC will give us a pretty respectable skyline. But if economy tanks it could scuttle a few of those projects.

What do you guys think about the 5th ave landing project en lieu of the CC expansion? Looks like those guys are pushing hard to get their hotel built.

The 5th Ave landing hotel is great IMO as it is quite tall and right on the water. Would look great from the Coronado Bridge.

Regarding skyline "respectability", I agree that those projects you outlined would be great additions especially given their locations. Also, I'd say that IMO, SD's skyline is quite respectable even in spite of the height limit. I've been on this forum for longer than I care to admit and have seen the skyline go from lacking to fairly impressive. This is a big accomplishment considering the height limit. I'd go out on a limb and say that we're getting close to the point where new projects won't add much more to the skyline unless they are taller (than the height limit) or are in locations that add significant visual impact (along the water, near the Coronado Bridge, EV, etc). I guess you could say the plateau is moving eastward.