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Old Posted Sep 23, 2017, 4:04 AM
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Old Posted Sep 23, 2017, 1:39 PM
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This whole thing is a scam, really. Here's a company making billions in profit at the expense of thousands and thousands of retail jobs, and it's looking for corporate handouts and tax breaks. Like Walmart, Amazon is likely contributing to the decline of city centres all over.

It's pretty demeaning that Amazon is dangling the carrot expecting everyone to jump, when it really should conduct its own research and analysis for the best location. If I were looking for a new house I have to search on my own or hire a real estate agent. Cities are going to spend a lot of time and money pitching and won't get paid for the effort if they don't get it. it smacks of work on spec, and reflects on how they perceive labour.

In the end, some city is going to get fleeced to provide concessions, and Amazon is going to suck most of the money because it thinks it's entitled to the economic windfall it produces instead of owing it to the place that gives it a home.

Personally, I think they should just stick to Seattle and swallow all the costs since they are part of the reason that city has become so expensive. If they build it into their pricing maybe the rest of the global retail business environment has some chance of remaining competitive.
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Old Posted Sep 23, 2017, 6:02 PM
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If Amazon can locate to Detroit and make that city more expensive, maybe it wouldn't be such a bad thing.
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If Amazon can locate to Detroit and make that city more expensive, maybe it wouldn't be such a bad thing.
As long as the actual HQ is on the Windsor side of the Detroit-Windsor metro. Public health care, it offers a hedge against the US, and less crime too.
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My US pick is Minneapolis/St. Paul if you really are looking for a good fit demographically for Amazon!
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ANALYSIS: 'Trump has scared the bejesus out of everyone': How Canada could win the Amazon sweepstakes

America First policies, opposition to 'genius visa' may hurt U.S. shot at landing new HQ

By Paul Haavardsrud, CBC News Posted: Sep 23, 2017 5:00 AM ET Last Updated: Sep 23, 2017 5:00 AM ET

Handicapping the Amazon sweepstakes has become something of a cottage industry in the last few weeks.

Predictions of which city will land the company's coveted second headquarters cite everything from the bright lights of big cities like New York and Boston to Denver's crisp Rocky Mountain air to Chicago's spot as a hurricane-free haven.

The vestiges of our latent national inferiority complex might trigger a belief that the golden goose of corporate relocations couldn't possibly land here.

Before last November that may well have been true, but no longer. Now, the idea of Amazon choosing Canada isn't just possible, it's probable.

"If Trump wasn't president I don't think we'd be having quite this conversation," said Richard Florida, an urban studies theorist at the University of Toronto. "Trump has scared the bejesus out of everyone."

The case for Canada

Every city with at least a puncher's chance of landing Amazon can check off a few boxes on the company's wish list.

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/amaz...rump-1.4302433
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Boston looks like a natural for them.

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Way too expensive. Philly makes much more sense.

Amazon execs want second HQ in Boston, says report
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Interesting. Boston's real estate is more expensive than Toronto's. So much for the requirements list, if this is indeed true.
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Did you even read the article? Some execs would like it to be in Boston. No shit, it's one of the nicest American cities. Any high-paid exec would take it over Philly or Chicago or Detroit. I'm sure Amazon execs would also love it if HQ2 was in Honolulu or Key West; doesn't mean they're places that make any sense for the company in the grand scheme of things, just that some of these guys personally would like it if their high-paid job got moved there.

"This doesn't mean Boston is going to win out, but it sounds like some execs inside certainly hope that's where Amazon ends up."
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Interesting. Boston's real estate is more expensive than Toronto's. So much for the requirements list, if this is indeed true.
Boston's too expensive. Philly makes much more sense. Or Chicago (or Atlanta or Texas).

I'd also dismiss NYC for the same reason - too expensive.
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I would presume the execs had a major role in outlining the requirements for this contest, unless Amazon is some sort of dictatorship. Their opinions matter.
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Did you even read the article? Some execs would like it to be in Boston. No shit, it's one of the nicest American cities. Any high-paid exec would take it over Philly or Chicago or Detroit. I'm sure Amazon execs would also love it if HQ2 was in Honolulu or Key West; doesn't mean they're places that make any sense for the company in the grand scheme of things, just that some of these guys personally would like it if their high-paid job got moved there.

"This doesn't mean Boston is going to win out, but it sounds like some execs inside certainly hope that's where Amazon ends up."
Yes I read the article. Did I say it was a done deal ?
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Vancouver has lower chances of getting the HQ2 than Brandon MB. It's simply too close to Seattle, what would be the point of expanding there...
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This whole thing is a scam, really. Here's a company making billions in profit at the expense of thousands and thousands of retail jobs, and it's looking for corporate handouts and tax breaks. Like Walmart, Amazon is likely contributing to the decline of city centres all over.

It's pretty demeaning that Amazon is dangling the carrot expecting everyone to jump, when it really should conduct its own research and analysis for the best location. If I were looking for a new house I have to search on my own or hire a real estate agent. Cities are going to spend a lot of time and money pitching and won't get paid for the effort if they don't get it. it smacks of work on spec, and reflects on how they perceive labour.

In the end, some city is going to get fleeced to provide concessions, and Amazon is going to suck most of the money because it thinks it's entitled to the economic windfall it produces instead of owing it to the place that gives it a home.

Personally, I think they should just stick to Seattle and swallow all the costs since they are part of the reason that city has become so expensive. If they build it into their pricing maybe the rest of the global retail business environment has some chance of remaining competitive.
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Vancouver has lower chances of getting the HQ2 than Brandon MB. It's simply too close to Seattle, what would be the point of expanding there...
Cuz they want a city most similar to Seattle? Or a city most of their employees that have to transfer want to be in? Don't know.
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Vancouver has ports which would help amazon get the goods faster to their distribution centre.
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Amazon doesn't need a port.....Minneapolis/St. Paul or Chicago, IMO!
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Seattle is this weird place that seems like it would be great in theory but doesn't have much cultural meat to it, or at least has an unusually light assortment of the stuff I find interesting despite how large and wealthy it is. It has a lot of cultural amenities on paper because it's full of millionaires who like to see their names on buildings. It has a lot of wealthy upper middle class types who are soylent-drinking ascetic bro technocrats; I will leave it as an exercise for readers to decide how fun people like that are at parties. The vestigial lower class stuff (i.e. for the people who will work at-will for poverty wages in an Amazon warehouse in the brave new world) is kind of bland and rootless. The commercialism there, conspicuous consumption, obsession with virtue signalling, etc. reminds me of a milder version of California.

Anyway, I think this is what you're signing up for when you ask for an Amazon HQ.
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Vancouver has ports which would help amazon get the goods faster to their distribution centre.
God forbid any more tanker traffic enter the port of Vancouver though. Could you imagine the uproar in Vancouver if there is to be an increase in vessels in and out of the harbour... what about the whales!!
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