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Amazon has included Toronto on a short list of 20 cities under consideration for its second headquarters. Amazon reviewed a total of 238 proposals.
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The biggest (non) surprise is Amazon and Bezos contontued obsession with Washington D.C. The metro area essentially has 3 entries in the top 20. This fact also improves Philadelphia's chances as they are the closest in proximity to D.C..
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I bet it's going to be down to Washington DC and Toronto, with Washington the favourite.
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No really surprises. How boring.
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Is it possible to add a poll into this thread now? So we can take some bets with some imaginary money?

From the beginning my best guess was Philly. But hearing Boston and Atlanta are the faves.
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I bet it's going to be down to Washington DC and Toronto, with Washington the favourite.
The map released by Amazon is of the continental US with Toronto floating off in the distance. Knowing this, Do you still think Toronto is a contender and not just filler to keep this HQ2 thing "North American"? You never know. Just sayin'.
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I doubt Toronto will get it, and personally not really sure it should. But not surprising that it's the only Canadian city that was shortlisted - it's the only entry that really made sense. Decent chance they only included it just to have one non-American entry though.
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Nice to see a Canadian city got the short list. I think a second Canadian city after Toronto was only realistic if the short list was 30 (which I originally thought it was).

There are a few surprises on the list. I didn't expect to see Nashville or Raleigh. NOVA & Montgomery County are a bit of odd ball choices too.

Just looking at where the density of choices are, I'd say Amazon really really really wants to be in the DC metro area, but here's hoping there's an outside chance they pick Toronto.
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Apparently the above map is sourced from Amazon as well. So, one of the maps I received sourced from Amazon was of the continental US with Toronto floating in space
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The map released by Amazon is of the continental US with Toronto floating off in the distance. Knowing this, Do you still think Toronto is a contender and not just filler to keep this HQ2 thing "North American"? You never know. Just sayin'.
Because most Americans would wonder what State Toronto is in. Never underestimate how dumb our Yankee friends can be.

Most likely though some random map tech couldn't find thier Ontario shape file. Because how often would they ever have to use an Ontario shape file?

I don't think the map slight hurts Toronto's chances. Amazon doesn't owe anybody anything. Toronto's bid outright rejected Government handouts and freebies so you could easily make a case that Amazon is looking to swamp it up with incentives and chose not to entertain Toronto's bid if it didn't end up in the top 20, or the simple fact they wanted to stay in the USA after all.

Metro Detroit folks seem to be salty currently as the Metro does out perform a few entries in the top 20, but it's obvious it got slighted for various reasons.
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The map released by Amazon is of the continental US with Toronto floating off in the distance. Knowing this, Do you still think Toronto is a contender and not just filler to keep this HQ2 thing "North American"? You never know. Just sayin'.
I don't have the link handy (I think it might have been in Fortune magazine, I posted it here a few months ago), but Bezos himself made the decision to setup a second headquarters in Toronto a few years ago. He changed his mind after his executives protested at setting up a headquarters outside the US. After that, nothing more was heard of it till this recent contest. It honestly sounds like Toronto is a serious contender.
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Toronto's bid was actually relatively cocky. Very clear regarding no government hand outs, no special favors, and they explicitly went against Amazon's wishes and made the whole thing public. Was a beautiful professional presentation that really did Toronto justice, while every other city in Canada kept saying "we aren't doing this for Amazon, we are doing it for the attention, yet our bids are completely private".

Nice to see Toronto get on the short list and it kind of makes everybody else look a bit ridiculous IMO.
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That map is very appropriate. So what if Yellowknife isn't there, neither are Alaska, PR and Hawaii.
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What! Sault Ste. Marie didn't make the cut?! Shocker!
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Still dangling that carrot are they?
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No surprise Toronto got shortlisted... but there wont be a surprise either when it doesn't win...
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No way Toronto doesn't win without offering subsidies. The only purpose of doing this type of search was to get cities to offer freebies.
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2018, 6:23 PM
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Toronto simply doesn't have that much leeway in terms of subsidies that can be offered, particularly in comparison to American municipalities. Certainly not the broad tax incentives we've heard from places like Chicago. I'm pretty good with this, for the record.
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2018, 6:27 PM
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Toronto simply doesn't have that much leeway in terms of subsidies that can be offered, particularly in comparison to American municipalities. Certainly not the broad tax incentives we've heard from places like Chicago. I'm pretty good with this, for the record.
Toronto as a municipality doesn't have much power, but I believe both Wynne and Trudeau are on record saying they would provide funding and tax incentives to any city that got on the short list. The carrot still has some life yet.
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