Winnipeg Roads & Infrastructure - Page 355

Carboy15 · #**7081** Posted **Apr 26, 2024, 5:28 AM**

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Originally Posted by The Jabroni

I think the closest east-west highway would be to have CentrePort extend out to PTH 26 to the west, have CentrePort connect to the planned western extension of Chief Peguis, and then have CPT from Lag connect to the planned Ed Schreyer Parkway and go further east towards...

*checks notes*

...onto the existing path of Gunn Rd, onto the Perimeter, and then eventually go further towards Oakbank...?

Winnipeg doesn't really need an East-West route across the city. I believe the Perimeter Highway does that duty pretty well, but will be much better once the freeway will be complete. An East-West route through the city wouldn't work without really cutting through neighbourhoods and businesses downtown. Centreport and St Norbert bypasses would be awesome, but I believe that traffic should rather circle the city instead of going through.

Besides Chief Peguis, Hwy 3, Bishop Grandin, and Fermor could make an East West route. Looking at the Hwy 3 twinning plans from the Costco to the Perimeter, it shows there is an option to connect Bishop Grandin to highway 3. Assuming that option would be chosen, and connect Bishop to Fermor, we technically would have an East-West route going across the city.

P.S. I'm sure also connecting Fermor with McGillvary would have worked too, but it would have interfered with a residential neighbourhood.

And an Oakbank corridor wouldn't be a bad idea either. The Floodway bridge would be the most expensive part, and they would probably pave Cedar Lake road or Springfield Road.

The Jabroni · #**7082** Posted **Apr 26, 2024, 1:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by Carboy15

P.S. I'm sure also connecting Fermor with McGillvary would have worked too, but it would have interfered with a residential neighbourhood.

I believe that was one of the original plans before the residential neighbourhoods took place, but it became some sort of chicken vs. egg situation or something.

It would be nice to cut 5 minutes of time from going through Jubilee though.

Ozabald · #**7083** Posted **Apr 26, 2024, 2:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by rivercity

Apples to oranges comparison in my mind. Alberta is flush with money and provides a lot of grants for infrastructure. Highway 2 through Calgary received 615 Million dollars in funding for improvements through the City in 2023 for 3-4 years worth of improvements for twinning of bridges, intersection improvements and improving access ramps, etc.. That along is like 20% of MTIs 5 year budget i think which includes ALL our infrastructure rom dams, drains, northern airports, ferrys, highways, bridges. Can you imagine what a difference it would be if say MTI upgraded and maintained Lagimodiere through the City to freeway standards?

Manitoba received a 24% increase in 2023 to its annual equalization handout from Ottawa; now at $4.3B. Use some of that increase to fix the roads.

optimusREIM · #**7084** Posted **Apr 26, 2024, 3:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by Ozabald

Manitoba received a 24% increase in 2023 to its annual equalization handout from Ottawa; now at $4.3B. Use some of that increase to fix the roads.

Or to accelerate infrastructure upgrades.

bomberjet · #**7085** Posted **Apr 26, 2024, 4:18 PM**

I'll have to find my maps of Winnipeg freeways that would work in the current situation. Mostly following along the 1960's beltway plan.

There are so many old proposals for ring roads, highways, etc, it'll make your head spin.

craner · #**7086** Posted **Apr 27, 2024, 11:26 PM**

^Can’t wait to see the plans and get my head spinning.

cllew · #**7087** Posted **Apr 28, 2024, 12:43 AM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

I'll have to find my maps of Winnipeg freeways that would work in the current situation. Mostly following along the 1960's beltway plan.

There are so many old proposals for ring roads, highways, etc, it'll make your head spin.

Somewhere in my basement I have a book of plans my dad had that the Metro Corp made of all the proposed freeways in the 1960's

bomberjet · #**7088** Posted **Apr 28, 2024, 2:39 AM**

Sorry to get your hopes up. I have very limited of actual old maps.

I was reffering to my google earth sketchings lol

Sound like we need to raid cllews basement!

WildCake · #**7089** Posted **Apr 28, 2024, 6:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by craner

^Can’t wait to see the plans and get my head spinning.

Most of the ideas circulated here are found in the Transportation Master Plan. Skip over to page 115 of the pdf to see what the City had in mind:

https://legacy.winnipeg.ca/publicwor...nal-Report.pdf

Here's the draft road upgrades for the upcoming TMP update:

Link https://ehq-production-canada.s3.ca-...eb21802cf131fc

FactaNV · #**7090** Posted **Apr 28, 2024, 6:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by WildCake

Most of the ideas circulated here are found in the Transportation Master Plan. Skip over to page 115 of the pdf to see what the City had in mind:

https://legacy.winnipeg.ca/publicwor...nal-Report.pdf

Here's the draft road upgrades for the upcoming TMP update:

Link https://ehq-production-canada.s3.ca-...eb21802cf131fc

Your last link is dead.

anthonyk · #**7091** Posted **Apr 29, 2024, 5:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by FactaNV

Your last link is dead.

Fixed: https://ehq-production-canada.s3.ca-...astructure.pdf

FactaNV · #**7092** Posted **Apr 29, 2024, 5:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by anthonyk

Fixed: https://ehq-production-canada.s3.ca-...astructure.pdf

Looks expensive lol. I'm sure they'll have no trouble funding this alongside the city services, the Transit MP and the shit plant.

craner · #**7093** Posted **Apr 29, 2024, 6:42 PM**

Thanks for the links - interesting to study.

harls · #**7094** Posted **Apr 29, 2024, 7:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by FactaNV

and the shit plant.

I hope that is the official name.

bomberjet · #**7095** Posted **Apr 29, 2024, 7:44 PM**

They keep listing this grade sep of CPR at Panet Rd. Like how ridiculous is that. I live very close to their, it would be awesome to have for sure. But that's got to be the very last thing on that list of priorities lol

I would also really love to see the concept for St. Mary's road widening. Because it can't be pretty for anyone on the west side.

bomberjet · #**7096** Posted **Apr 29, 2024, 7:59 PM**

Here's one I drew up a while back.

harls · #**7097** Posted **Apr 29, 2024, 8:10 PM**

At this point, just try to make the perimeter free-flowing.

Bishop and Chief Peguis had me hopeful for an inner ring back in the 90s. That ship has sailed.

bomberjet · #**7098** Posted **Apr 29, 2024, 8:36 PM**

Province is working on the Perimeter. City doing not much about anything at this point.

I know someone will comment I didn't include route 90. Could include to be consistent with 59. But seems the City hasn't prioritized either it based on the map that was shared.

harls · #**7099** Posted **Apr 29, 2024, 8:58 PM**

Winnipeg can and will grow out to the perimeter. City and province both know it.

Carboy15 · #**7100** Posted **Apr 30, 2024, 6:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by harls

At this point, just try to make the perimeter free-flowing.

Bishop and Chief Peguis had me hopeful for an inner ring back in the 90s. That ship has sailed.

I agree. The Perimeter is set up to be a freeway, so it makes sense to convert it.

Lag, CPT, William R Clement, and Bishop Grandin still can be completed and have a full ring. Even if it's not a full freeway, it would at least create better connection.