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Old Posted May 21, 2017, 3:52 AM
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Does Georgetown still own that Old Navy building? They probably think they've missed the height of this current boom, and they want another short term tenant to occupy the space until the next cycle when they can redevelop.
They do indeed, might just be like the Sterling Bay project on Michigan where "for lease" signs are up, but at any moment they could start paper work to build something
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Old Posted May 22, 2017, 1:27 AM
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Nice! Can't wait until this one starts rising. Gotta canyon the Kennedy!
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Absolutely. I cant wait for developer's to start the east side of the expressway. I think halsted has a good thing going. Hopefully gaining momentum. Giddyup developers.
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Good afternoon, all. Not sure how to link up to this new story from today's NY Times....great story about density and the suburbs. Turns out Chicago is among the cities becoming more dense. On the front page at nytimes.com right now.
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Old Posted May 22, 2017, 8:35 PM
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Good afternoon, all. Not sure how to link up to this new story from today's NY Times....great story about density and the suburbs. Turns out Chicago is among the cities becoming more dense. On the front page at nytimes.com right now.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/22/u...to-cities.html

Seems like good news for Chicago but bad news for the country. The basic point is that the much-heralded revitalization of American downtowns is actually very limited in scope - the large majority of 1 million + cities are becoming less dense. Still, Chicago is second on the list of cities in which density is increasing, and that's presumably based on city-wide numbers.
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Absolutely. I cant wait for developer's to start the east side of the expressway. I think halsted has a good thing going. Hopefully gaining momentum. Giddyup developers.
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Anyone know of it's status? There were rumblings of it coming back to life not too long ago if I remember.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/22/u...to-cities.html

Seems like good news for Chicago but bad news for the country. The basic point is that the much-heralded revitalization of American downtowns is actually very limited in scope - the large majority of 1 million + cities are becoming less dense. Still, Chicago is second on the list of cities in which density is increasing, and that's presumably based on city-wide numbers.
Interesting. Essentially, the article says cities that were already pretty dense (upper midwest and northeast) are getting denser, while sprawling metros (south and west) are getting even more suburban. Big exception is Seattle which is hyper-densifying thanks to the tech giants there, and SF and LA which are already dense metros but havent densified much recently.

I wonder what their metrics are? Is it just the downtown/central areas they are counting? Because Chicago has been treading water when it comes to population gains, with huge swatch of the city depopulating, yet we are #2 on that list.
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Interesting. Essentially, the article says cities that were already pretty dense (upper midwest and northeast) are getting denser, while sprawling metros (south and west) are getting even more suburban. Big exception is Seattle which is hyper-densifying thanks to the tech giants there, and SF and LA which are already dense metros but havent densified much recently.

I wonder what their metrics are? Is it just the downtown/central areas they are counting? Because Chicago has been treading water when it comes to population gains, with huge swatch of the city depopulating, yet we are #2 on that list.

The NYTimes article has a methodology link for the study at the bottom for anybody interested in the whole thing. But TLDR is: the study looks at average weighted density for MSAs by Census tract.

The strongest data correlation is that faster growing MSAs tended to become lower density.

So this is sort of a good news bad news thing. Chicagos average density score is being driven by the lack of regional suburban growth and lower density bungalow neighborhoods losing population as dense downtown neighborhoods grow.
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I wonder what their metrics are? Is it just the downtown/central areas they are counting? Because Chicago has been treading water when it comes to population gains, with huge swatch of the city depopulating, yet we are #2 on that list.
Their metrics are obviously the US Census Department's American Community Survey and your assessment of Chicago's population is partially false. The big area around Englewood and Auburn Gresham are losing most of the population that the city is losing, with some around Austin as well but overall not bad loss there - not even close to the areas of the south side.

The rest of the city region wise is gaining population with of course downtown leading the way. Between 2010 and 2015, 48 of 77 community areas in Chicago gained population and many, many community areas that lost population between 2000 and 2010 have reversed and are now gaining people. If those areas only lost 1/4 of what they did, then Chicago's population gain would have been over 55K people since 2010 aka over double of what it was. That's not a huge growth, but it's a lot better than what the overall number is. Essentially the gains of the north side and downtown are being offset by the losses of Englewood, West Englewood, Auburn Gresham, etc. Areas like the SW side and south lakefront (i.e. Bronzeville) are gaining in population.

Technically most websites and publications get things wrong though. They compare the ACS to decennial census which you aren't necessarily supposed to do - at least the Census department says you shouldn't. If we compare just the 2010 ACS to 2015 ACS, then the density of the community areas that make up the greater downtown area increased by 3364 ppsm. If you leave out Near West Side then the increase of density was 4545 ppsm in Loop, Near North, and Near South combined.
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There will be people living in Vista before this is done.
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Old Posted May 23, 2017, 5:36 AM
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^ They're supposed to be done by late 2018, which is sure as hell late considering that they broke ground early this year. This the same projection for when One Bennett Park expects to make its first deliveries.
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I want this one if nothing else.



Anyone know of it's status? There were rumblings of it coming back to life not too long ago if I remember.
The project itself is alive, but this design is dead.
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I don't recall 1 S Halsted being in that rendering. Was it always there?
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Old Posted May 23, 2017, 8:36 AM
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A cool view of some cranes from Mary Bartelme Park in the West Loop
(From left to right - 1 S. Halsted, 111 S Peoria, and 625 W Adams)



Also, a quick shot of soil testing at the H2O site

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Old Posted May 23, 2017, 9:45 AM
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Sorry for not keeping up as fast as all these projects pop up. What is the H20 site?

Sweet pic. At what point does the midwest run out of cranes? Way too much going on in Chicago and I'm loving every minute of it.
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Sorry for not keeping up as fast as all these projects pop up. What is the H20 site?
Replaces the old shampoo factory with nearly 600 apartments. I think these are the most recent renderings.
The neighbors fought this one pretty hard but it received only a minor (two story?) haircut.
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