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Old Posted Jun 24, 2015, 8:51 PM
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I wonder who paid the "National Trust For Historic Preservation" for that claim. A 40 floor tower endangers it, when there are taller towers nearby?
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Hughes Plans For South Street Seaport’s Pier 17 Hit Snag At Landmarks



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If you don’t live downtown, you might be forgiven for not knowing that the Howard Hughes Corporation is trying to remake the South Street Seaport. One of the key components of that is the new Pier 17, which is already in the works. Though the plan hit a bump in the road at Tuesday’s session of the Landmarks Preservation Commission, it isn’t dead in the water.

Hughes wants to rebuild Pier 17 as a prime shopping, dining, and entertainment destination. They have already demolished the Pier 17 headhouse, which housed the mechanical systems, over flood and stability concerns. Construction of the new pier is already under way. In fact, a plan for it was approved in 2013. But Hughes wants to make changes.

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NYC seaport museum gets $10M for Superstorm Sandy repairs

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New York City's South Street Seaport Museum has received $10.4 million in federal funding for Superstorm Sandy repairs.

Congressman Jerrold Nadler and the museum's executive director, Captain Jonathan Boulware, made the announcement Thursday.

Up to 7 feet of water poured into the Lower Manhattan museum during the 2012 storm. It severely damaged its electrical, heating and cooling systems. Its fleet of ships was largely undamaged.

Boulware says the funding will help the museum improve and expand its programming.

Since the storm, the museum has increased membership, built up its education programming and reactivated an 1893 schooner as a sailing school vessel.
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Hughes Plans For South Street Seaport’s Pier 17 Hit Snag At Landmarks



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AUGUST 5, 2015
I liked the design of the old Pier 17 mall. Wasn't thrilled with this new development at first. But its grown on me. Totally forgot about South St. till I found this forum bookmarked. Taking forever to say the least. I was down that way over a year ago. Completely closed off. They now have like a food truck court thing across the street on Fulton.
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Pier 17 roof without pergola (approved)


Pier 17 roof with pergola (not approved)

With Rooftop Pergola Gone, South Street Seaport Pier 17 Plan Sails Past Landmarks

EVAN BINDELGLASS
OCTOBER 21, 2015

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One of the most controversial developments in Lower Manhattan got a big thumbs up from the Landmarks Preservation Commission on Tuesday. The LPC approved the Howard Hughes Corporation plan for Pier 17 at the South Street Seaport, which includes demolition of the Link Building. A big point of contention when the plan was presented in August was a proposed rooftop pergola. With that removed, commission approval was a snap. Tuesday’s presentation also revealed some new renderings of the site.

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So much for using that roof in the rain now.
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ne much-discussed area residential project will not be going ahead, however – at least not for now. Howard Hughes, which has been spearheading much of the Seaport redevelopment, has put its plans for a hotel-condo tower on the current site of the Seaport’s New Market Building on hold while it reevaluates their proposal for the location.

The original plan, which had at times called for a tower as tall as 50 stories, drew significant opposition from community and preservation groups who vowed to derail it. That may have worked.

“There will be no tall tower on the New Market site,” says an HHC spokeswoman. “That is not happening.”

She declined to say whether the company’s current designs for the Seaport include any residential development.

HHC’s current focus, the spokeswoman says, is on completing its Pier 17 development, which, in addition to the aforementioned Jean-Georges restaurant, will include an acre-and-a-half rooftop event space and some 170,000 square feet of high-end retail space. The developer also plans to complete work next year on the Seaport’s Fulton Market building, which will host an eight-screen, 505-seat iPic movie theater.
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Note: This is not for the tower component. That... remains to be seen.

Stupid NIMBYS!

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Steel superstructure is rising at the Howard Hughes Corporation's new retail center at Pier 17, a redevelopment of the site that formerly was home to Benjamin Thompson's 1983 structure of similar function. The 300,000 square foot retail project is designed by SHoP Architects, the firm also responsible for the nearby Pier 15 and the East River Waterfront Esplanade renovation.



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Why would NIMBY's care about anything here if 80 South Street, which could easily be over 1000 feet may rise?

Those idiots need to just give it a rest or move somewhere else.







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Why would NIMBY's care about anything here if 80 South Street, which could easily be over 1000 feet may rise?

Those idiots need to just give it a rest or move somewhere else.
Because they are shallow people. Its kinda like the debate over the 57th Street shadows after the towers have risen. I remember a while ago reading something about a development in Brooklyn, and where they referred to 12 floors as a monstrosity. There's no reasoning with a NIMBY. What we do need are Nuremberg style trials for what they did to Tower Verre.

The tower component was scrapped for this project, but nevertheless, 80 South Street will make up for it.

But anyways, the current plan:

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I went by the area last weekend. It's really come along pretty fast.
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Landmarks Approves Relocation Of Tin Building At South Street Seaport

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MARCH 23, 2016

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Another piece of the puzzle that is the Howard Hughes Corporation’s plan to revitalize the South Street Seaport is one step closer to fitting into place. On Tuesday, the Landmarks Preservation Commission approved the relocation of the Tin Building.

The structure, once part of the Fulton Fish Market, was originally designed by the Berlin Construction Company and constructed between in 1907. It was rebuilt by Wank Adams Slavin Associates following a fire in 1995.

The plan is to disassemble the building and reconstruct it to the east, to function primarily as a food hall.

The presentation was introduced by Aileen Gorsuch of the New York City Economic Development Corporation (NYCEDC), who noted that the building has been vacant since 2006. She said the piles that support it are at risk of collapse. She also noted that in order to raise the building one foot above the 100-year floorplain, the building needs to be moved east. Otherwise, it would crash into the FDR Drive. The building was heavily flooded by Hurrican Sandy in 2012.

Chris Curry, the Howard Hughes Corporation’s point man on the project, hopes that with Tuesday’s LPC approval, the project can go to the City Planning Commission in April, back to Community Board 1, and then back to City Planning for approval from that agency in May.

Preservation consultant Elise Quasebarth of Higgins Quasebarth & Partners spoke to a little more of the building’s history, noting that when it first went into service as an active fish market, fish was being delivered to it by boat. She admitted that relocating buildings in historic districts isn’t a generally accepted practice, this is a special case, and in this case the structure is too brittle to actually move.

Engineer Mark Plachety and architect Richard Pipers spoke to some of what does remain of the original structure, which isn’t much. In fact, the current roof is where the third floor used to be. What you see now is a false front, done in fiberglass. The pilasters and window framing are original, but in such poor shape that they wouldn’t be re-used even if the plan was for an on-site restoration. What will be re-used are some of the canopy trusses and columns, as well as steel connectors in between them. All reconstruction will be done in sheet metal.

Architect Gregg Pasquarelli of SHoP Architects, the lead firm on the South Street Seaport project, spoke to the access drive that will essentially extend Fulton Street and wrap around in between the new Tin Building and the recently re-approved and nearly topped out Pier 17 mall to the current end of Beekman Street. Bollards will be used on this access drive. As for the Tin Building itself, it will feature glass roll-down pieces, that can be fully opened when the weather is fine. Mechanical equipment will be on the roof and minimally visible from the ground, but will be visible from vantage points like the Brooklyn Bridge.

The commissioners were very supportive of the proposal. “It’s hard to say it’s not appropriate,” said LPC Chair Meenakshi Srinivasan. “Very positive project.” She also said that approving this application would not set any sort of precedent.

Commissioner Diana Chapin was happy with how the Tin Building’s new position will make it more visible and also open up the pedestrian access corridor.

Community Board 1 found the proposal appropriate, but objected to the segmented way that the Howard Hughes Corporation is presenting the pieces of its plan for the Seaport.

A representative of both Manhattan Borough President Gale Brewer and Council Member Margaret Chin backed the proposal. So, too, did Alex Herrera of the New York Landmarks Conservancy, who said it was a “miracle” that we even still have the Tin Building. Also supporting it were representatives of the Real Estate Board of New York (REBNY), the Alliance for Downtown New York, and the Association for a Better New York (ABNY).

The Historic Districts Council seemed to echo Community Board 1. “While HDC finds this proposal to be sensitive overall, and appreciates the care being taken to honor the Tin Building, we question the applicant’s strategy of presenting a segmented plan for a much larger scheme in the South Street Seaport,” HDC’s Barbara Zay testified. “We urge the Commission to look ahead and consider the broader goals of this project and their impact on the historic district.”

Testifying against the proposal was Tara Kelly of the Municipal Art Society (MAS). “The threshold for permitting the relocation of a designated structure should be set high. An approval for the relocation of the Tin Building would set a terrible precedent, potentially encouraging a rash of inappropriate and unwarranted relocations of historic structures,” she said.

Two representatives of Friends of the South Street Seaport also testified against the proposal. Joanne Gorman, however, also addressed the Howard Hughes Coporation-owned property at the South Street Seaport that doesn’t sit within the South Street Seaport Historic District and urged expansion of that boundary. Maureen Koetz questioned how the relocation would even be accomplished, saying it would be a back door way to demolish the New Market Building, and called it a “real estate contrivance.”

In the end, the commissioners voted to approve the proposal, but mandated that the applicant work with LPC staff to establish a timeline for the relocation process and a storage location for the pieces of the existing building to be retained.
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Howard Hughes to self-fund Seaport development
Developer will not take out a construction loan: CEO

May 10, 2016
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The Howard Hughes Corporation will not take out a construction loan for its planned commercial development at the South Street Seaport. Instead, it is taking the unusual route of funding the entire project from its own balance sheet, the company’s CEO David Weinreb said Tuesday.

“We didn’t want to have the burden of a lender who was going to have various requirements about, you know, when you were going to be leased, the timing, etc.” Weinreb said, speaking on a panel at Weiser Mazars’ Commercial Real Estate Summit at the New York Athletic Club. “Because when you’re resuscitating an asset, often the best decisions are not signing a lease, not doing something, just being patient.”

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basically saying he wants to be able to wait until the other developments in the area are underway to increase the value of what he is building. 2 massive residential towers are planned for the area and I am sure that would increase the value of his development.

With a lender they want their money ASAP and he would be force to sell or lease at lower rate than he could get but waiting just a little bit.
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New Look At Revived Fulton Market Building, South Street Seaport

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The Howard Hugh Corporation’s effort to revive the South Street Seaport is getting closer to reality. On Tuesday, the Landmarks Preservation Commission approved revised plans for the exterior of the Fulton Market Building. That’s located at 11 Fulton Street, which occupies the block bound by Fulton, South, Beekman, and Front streets, in the South Street Seaport Historic District.

It was almost two years ago that the LPC approved the SHoP Architects-designed revamp of the 1983 structure. This tweak involves signage. The LPC can’t tell Hughes what the signs can say, but it can regulate their size.

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