[Dartmouth] Greenvale Lofts | ? m | 4 fl | Completed - Page 5

someone123 · #81 Posted **Aug 6, 2009, 7:08 PM**

Well in the worst case at least the building will not have to come down. It's already been neglected for 25 years or so, despite the fact that downtown Dartmouth does not have a huge collecting of heritage properties like this one. Hopefully the results will be good.. it sounds like it from what people are posting, and I haven't seen the work in person.

Jonovision · #82 Posted **Aug 19, 2009, 3:10 PM**

Some shots from last Friday.

And two bonus shots of the path they are working on in behind of Lock 4.

Keith P. · #83 Posted **Aug 19, 2009, 11:19 PM**

What's the path for? Looks almost like a gravel service lane.

Those condos are really disappointing. Could they not have used a *little* imagination?

Jonovision · #84 Posted **Aug 20, 2009, 2:59 AM**

The path has just been paved for most of its length. This is to be turned into a new park where they have proposed daylighting part of the canal that runs underneath.

JET · #85 Posted **Aug 20, 2009, 12:00 PM**

Jon, Have you heard recently that that they will daylight? It was a plan before, but I havn't heard anything firm recently. The path by itself is disappointing, but add a nice park it would be nice. Lots of potential there, with some vision it could be great. JET

Takeo · #86 Posted **Aug 20, 2009, 1:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by someone123

Well in the worst case at least the building will not have to come down. It's already been neglected for 25 years or so...

True enough.

YOWetal · #87 Posted **Aug 20, 2009, 2:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by Keith P.

What's the path for? Looks almost like a gravel service lane.

Those condos are really disappointing. Could they not have used a *little* imagination?

What's disappointing? Have you seen more details? The Website doesnt have floorplans and I wandered by the other day and didn't see a sales centre.

JET · #88 Posted **Aug 20, 2009, 6:48 PM**

Keith is no doubt referring not to greenvale, but to the 4 locks condos at the foot of maple, which are not very inspiring, but could have been worse. JET

JET · #89 Posted **Aug 20, 2009, 7:29 PM**

Keith is no doubt referring not to greenvale, but to the 4 locks condos at the foot of maple, which are not very inspiring, but could have been worse. JET

Jonovision · #90 Posted **Aug 21, 2009, 1:24 AM**

I have not heard anything recently regarding the daylighting or the park. It certainly has a long way to go before one can really call it a park at the moment though.

Jonovision · #91 Posted **Sep 4, 2009, 10:20 PM**

Just a quick update. They are now starting to pour the columns for the second floor of the addition.

JET · #92 Posted **Sep 18, 2009, 7:19 PM**

Now working on the columns for the 3rd floor of the addition, which will be level with the first floor of the original. Roof has been replaced on the original front section and the "middle" section. Front has ben covered in insulation and "stuco" and looks good; maintains the original lines of the exterior, although clearly not a brick facing. JET

JET · #93 Posted **Sep 18, 2009, 7:24 PM**

Just a note to say that they've done some nice landscaping on the trail where the old Starr property/canal is. However the part down by Pine St ext will stick out like a sore thumb. JET

Jonovision · #94 Posted **Sep 30, 2009, 3:07 AM**

It looks like they will be pouring the 4th floor columns tomorrow and they have started framing up the walls on the first floor of the addition.

Dmajackson · #95 Posted **Sep 30, 2009, 10:28 PM**

10. REPORTS
10.1 Staff Reports
10.1.1 Case 01299: Amending Agreements - Greenvale School, 130 Ochterloney Street

Dmajackson · #96 Posted **Oct 8, 2009, 9:17 PM**

'Character-defining’ chimney lost in new Greenvale development
Halifax News Net

The brick chimney, shown here at the old Greenvale School, was torn down during restoration even though it was deemed a feature to be “retained or reconstructed” when the development agreement was drawn up in two years ago.

By Joanie Veitch – The Weekly News
Dartmouth has lost a piece of its history.
Dexel Development Ltd.’s decision to remove a “character-defining” brick chimney at the back of the former Greenvale School building will soon be looked at during Halifax regional council.
As a registered municipal heritage property, several “character defining” elements — including the brick chimney — were listed as features to be “retained or reconstructed” when the development agreement was drawn up in 2007.
During the summer, however, Dexel tore the chimney down early in the construction phase.
“I happened to be walking up to the building to see how things were progressing and saw that the chimney was being taken down,” said HRM heritage planner Bill Plaskett.
City planners suggested a solution to the developer — build a reinforced brick-sheathed plywood box to replicate the chimney. But the HRM staff report noted that Dexel refused that suggestion.
While the developer has put in a request for several amendments that city staff are willing to support, “the issue with the chimney is the one thing we couldn’t agree to,” Plaskett said.
“From our perspective, it ultimately became a matter of principle. It was part of the development agreement, so it does have significance.”
The staff report was first tabled at last month’s heritage advisory committee meeting and then again at last week’s Harbour East Community Council.
“The heritage advisory committee’s decision was to concur with the staff recommendation on the matter,” said Kurt Pyle, supervisor of planning applications for the city.
If council also ratifies the staff position, Dexel will have to either rebuild the chimney or see the matter go to the Development Services division for further action.
The $6 million development project, called the Lofts at Greenvale, will create 36 rental units in the historic school. Developer Louis Lawen reached an agreement in principle with HRM to develop the site back in 2003, but didn’t take ownership of the property until late 2007, due to problems with an old sewer line that had to be worked out with the city.
Pyle noted the development has saved a historic building that was in danger of being lost.
“From that perspective it has been very positive,” he said.
Dexel Developments did not return calls before press time.

jveitch@ns.sympatico.ca

JET · #97 Posted **Oct 9, 2009, 12:33 PM**

I'm usually the one to be arguing to preserve heritage, but it's a chiminey. I don't see the issue given that they've actually added heritage features that were lost years ago. JET

Jonovision · #98 Posted **Oct 9, 2009, 1:19 PM**

I walked by the site the other day in the rain and the old building has now been painted a red brick colour. It looks pretty good. Kinda makes your mind think it is the same as it always has been.

JET · #99 Posted **Oct 9, 2009, 1:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jonovision

I walked by the site the other day in the rain and the old building has now been painted a red brick colour. It looks pretty good. Kinda makes your mind think it is the same as it always has been.

It does look really good. They are doing a good job.
Did you notice that they have a frame in one of the windows: pine st side near Ochterloney, 2nd floor. The framing looks out of place as a replacement window. JET

hfx_chris · #**100** Posted **Oct 9, 2009, 2:50 PM**

I agree with what the author said, the chimney definitely was a defining feature - but I don't think it was that important in the end.