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Massive Cyclist Casualty on Sherwood Park Freeway

https://globalnews.ca/news/4382768/f...-park-freeway/

But but but... I thought they aren’t allowed on controlled-access freeways???
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Alberta doesn't have controlled access freeways.
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Alberta doesn't have controlled access freeways.
The ring roads in both cities though, are they not?
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Nope, they may look like 'controlled access', but they are really just bigger roads, according to the laws. There is nothing inherently different about them than other than they are bigger and more complex. But the same vehicles are allowed on them and the same laws apply as any other roads. So those cyclists were breaking no laws, though they are clearly idiots and sadists.

I'm not sure if anywhere in Canada truly has proper freeways like other countries do (though they may have all the appearances of them), maybe Ontario and Quebec. But 'controlled access' means that the road is a different class of roads to other roads with different rules and standards. They can be called freeways, but other countries have their own names - motorways, autobahns, autoroutes etc.
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Nope, they may look like 'controlled access', but they are really just bigger roads, according to the laws. There is nothing inherently different about them than other than they are bigger and more complex. But the same vehicles are allowed on them and the same laws apply as any other roads. So those cyclists were breaking no laws, though they are clearly idiots and sadists.

I'm not sure if anywhere in Canada truly has proper freeways like other countries do (though they may have all the appearances of them), maybe Ontario and Quebec. But 'controlled access' means that the road is a different class of roads to other roads with different rules and standards. They can be called freeways, but other countries have their own names - motorways, autobahns, autoroutes etc.
It is illegal to ride a bicycle on Quebec's Autoroutes.
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It is illegal to ride a bicycle on Quebec's Autoroutes.
Same in Ontario and in the states
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Cyclists can ride on any highway in Alberta, as can any vehicle for that matter. Any vehicle you like, any speed, any lane, doesn't matter, the laws for a single lane rural road are the same as a 10 lane freeway. The exception being that a few roads have city bylaws, such as Deerfoot which bans cyclists.

201 and 216 are the only roads in Alberta that were built from the ground up to be 'freeways' so they are well built and have all the features of a modern freeway (though I think Stoney had lights on it still 6 years ago). But they are not really referred to as such by the government and have no special status. And all of the rest of our major routes were upgraded piecemeal from smaller roads and all have varying degrees of imperfection where they stray from the 'freeway' standard. Highway 2 between Calgary and Edmonton, for example, is mostly good but still has some at grade crossings meaning it cannot be described as a freeway.
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