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Old Posted Mar 17, 2007, 5:43 PM
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You guys have to realize, building a foundation for a 16 acre site is going to take a long time. Were not talking about your typical small glass residential highrise. This development is immensly vast. I rather them take their time to build a quality item. I garuntee once this reaches street level, the towers will skyrocket. Its always the case with every tower: long time to reach street level, but rises quickly. Not to mention how complex and delicate this site is with those slurry walls.
I understand everyone is growing tired of waiting (as am I), but lets be a little more constructive on this thread rather than polluting it with crap. The damn thing is getting built, lets be happy!


I imagine that because it took close to five years to start getting the Freedom Tower off paper and on the ground, people at times might "lose it" because of the fact that it's going to take at least until about 2011 to see the finished product.

Which is probably why the other towers will start being built almost simutaneously so that they will all be soaring close to the same time and so as not to drag out the construction process for what might have been yet another decade or so.

7 WTC seems to have sprouted up pretty quickly once it got started. But maybe because that building was the last one to fall, so I think Silverstein wanted it built first.

To coin the phrase; time waits for no one, in this case, we are all being forced to wait this thing out regardless, but at least Silverstein and the officials, along with the PA, has worked out a plan last spring to accelerate
the sprouting of the towers and to ease the time frame and not make it seem so painfully slow.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2007, 6:34 PM
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was it ever figured out if the beams were in the right place
     
     
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They had better be! Otherwise I don't even want to think what might happen.
     
     
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I don't see why they wouldn't be.
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Knowing Pataki, let's hope that they AREN'T in the wrong spots!

After all, he did all of this with the tower for cheap sensationalism and to make himself look good.
     
     
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The land that 7 WTC sits on isnt owned by Port Authority. That is the only reason it got built so quickly again.
     
     
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The land that 7 WTC sits on isnt owned by Port Authority. That is the only reason it got built so quickly again.


And I think also, that no one was in it when it fell, therefore, no one died in it. The occupants, whatever number of them were in there, had screwed out of there long before it collapsed.

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Mayor Nagen was right about this project!
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The land that 7 WTC sits on isnt owned by Port Authority. That is the only reason it got built so quickly again.
Also, there was the matter of the power station that was needed.
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Which is probably why the other towers will start being built almost simutaneously so that they will all be soaring close to the same time and so as not to drag out the construction process for what might have been yet another decade or so.

7 WTC seems to have sprouted up pretty quickly once it got started. But maybe because that building was the last one to fall, so I think Silverstein wanted it built first.
Those other WTC towers are right on time (although the PA could have speeded things up by building the new "tub" sooner). The reason they'll be rising the same time as the Freedom Tower is because Freedom had so many delays.

Don't forget that when the original WTC was constructed, the tub had to come first. That's what's taking place now on the eastern half of the site, due to be completed in about 9 months. As he has already proven with 7 WTC, once Silverstein is given the land to build on, the other towers will rise.
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But what puzzles me is why wasn't a tub built on the east side of Ground Zero before the Twins were built? I thought they had already done that before, seeing that the land must be kept dry.

Yeah, that was a smart thing they did last spring. Otherwise, like you said, the shorter towers might have gone through Freedom Tower-like delays.

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Why didn't they build a tub on the Eastern half of the WTC site in the 60's?
Because the Eastern half of the WTC site had stumpy office towers less than 10 floors occupying it, not 110 storey monsters.
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Why didn't they build a tub on the Eastern half of the WTC site in the 60's?
Because the Eastern half of the WTC site had stumpy office towers less than 10 floors occupying it, not 110 storey monsters.
Exactly, there was no need for that due to what was being built above it. Of course now thats a different story, therefore the TUB is required.
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Why didn't they build a tub on the Eastern half of the WTC site in the 60's?
Because the Eastern half of the WTC site had stumpy office towers less than 10 floors occupying it, not 110 storey monsters.

Considering that the tallest building in my town has a total of 11 storeys I'm again forced to think "what the fuck..."
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But what puzzles me is why wasn't a tub built on the east side of Ground Zero before the Twins were built? I thought they had already done that before, seeing that the land must be kept dry.
The original Path terminal was there. They've only just removed it. Also, there were still buildings on that site, even after the Twin Towers were nearly topped out.













BTW, another crane is about to go up at the site...

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Holy sweet new rendering. I just wish they could make the heights a little more realistic.
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Rough height correction:

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Now i'm liking that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Holy sweet new rendering. I just wish they could make the heights a little more realistic.
You're right, and how often is it the case that its the other way around? This is especially the case in NYC where its so hard to make an impact on the skyline, anyone remember the "three sisters" rendering of 425 Fifth Avenue? Again, I can't wait for this project to come to fuition.
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