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Old Posted Aug 15, 2006, 4:42 AM
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Cool Photos We Uploaded

Took the photos from the West terrace on Metropolis - great night views from that location and amazing when fireworks occur.
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Old Posted Aug 15, 2006, 5:32 AM
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Time to start a new thread? This page is too busy to load most of the time.
New thread? not at least until we get into the 100's
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Old Posted Aug 15, 2006, 4:39 PM
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Yes Bruce that West Terrace is amazing at night. We should do some slow shutter pictures! Cool pics
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Old Posted Aug 16, 2006, 12:08 AM
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Anyone know if Sky Las Vegas will be lit up at night? It would be a shame not to.

Too bad Panorama didn't but maybe Sky will.
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Old Posted Aug 17, 2006, 2:03 PM
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Had you guys heard about this one yet? I was looking at a Miami Architects (Kobi Karp) website and they just posted renderings for a Canyon Ranch Las Vegas project. Looks pretty nice:





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Old Posted Aug 17, 2006, 3:36 PM
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that site has a few vegas projects: Domus, One Las vegas, renzi towers.

looks like yuou forgot a picture dave

dont hold back on us now
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Old Posted Aug 17, 2006, 5:04 PM
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Does anyone have any current info on the the Sandhurst property-- has it begun construction?
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Old Posted Aug 17, 2006, 6:00 PM
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sandhurst is probably d-e-a-d. site just has its sales center on it. nothing going on there
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Old Posted Aug 17, 2006, 11:02 PM
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This Canyon Ranch seems to be another project by WSG Development, who also proposed the Lifestyle Towers. So far, nothing has been officially announed. I would love for even one of these projects to be built.

http://www.wsgdevelopment.net/

PINNACLE LAS VEGAS

>I have high hopes for this nice building becoming reality.

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Pinnacle Las Vegas condominium resort-hotel will be moving to contract. Consequently Pinnacle Las Vegas will be released to the public on September 15th and pre-sales will be concluded. When this occurs prices of the units will undergo a 5% increase. However, there are still a limited number of residences available at pre-sale pricing.

Available residences still at the pre-sale pricing include luxury studios, one, two, and three bedroom condominiums.

* In addition to Pinnacle Las Vegas publicly announcing themselves they have also achieved several other significant steps to completion: Pinnacle Las Vegas has secured the initial $45 million in project financing through Berkshire Financial Capital.
* Builders Wynn, Bellagio, MGM Grand, and Marnell Corraro Associates has singed on with Pinnacle Las Vegas as general contractors.
* Pinnalce Las Vegas has entered into a contract with the nation’s largest hotel management company, Interstate Hotels and Resorts to manage the development and handle the rental of owner residences.
* The pinnacle sales gallery is now open for viewing.

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Old Posted Aug 17, 2006, 11:17 PM
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wanna see vegas before resorts entered the market?

http://www.dicesetter.com/mp/mad48ghosts.htm

this site goes thru what used to be where the big players are now...

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from this site...
http://www.pcap.com/strato3.htm

i found: The 1100+ foot tower (stratosphere) was originally supposed to be considerably higher with another large section above the restaurant. However the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) determined that building the Tower higher would put it directly in one of the alternate flight plans for McCarran airport (it's only a couple miles from McCarran airport), Instead Stratosphere Corp, decided to keep the height to a mere 135 stories and build the current attractions at the top instead, still making it the tallest building west of the Mississippi.

i wonder what the original design looked like.....has anyone ever seen it?

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Old Posted Aug 18, 2006, 12:07 AM
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i found: The 1100+ foot tower (stratosphere) was originally supposed to be considerably higher with another large section above the restaurant. However the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) determined that building the Tower higher would put it directly in one of the alternate flight plans for McCarran airport (it's only a couple miles from McCarran airport)
I lived in Las Vegas throughout the construction of the Stratosphere. As I recall, it was originally designed to be about 100 feet shorter than it is now (can't remember the exact height though). After construction started, Bob Stupak (the owner of Vegas World who built the tower) proposed making it slightly taller than the CN Tower (1800+ feet). That's when the FAA stepped in and a compromise was reached for the current height of 1149 feet.

Hopefully I remembered all of that correctly...if not, I'm sure someone will tell me
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Old Posted Aug 18, 2006, 3:36 AM
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sandhurst is probably d-e-a-d. site just has its sales center on it. nothing going on there
What's the reinforced concrete structure under construction next to the downtown outlet mall then? Is it just a parking garage?
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Old Posted Aug 18, 2006, 3:13 PM
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^^^^ thats for the outlet mall they are expanding - sandhurst property is across the street....but thats only a couple stories tall.....unless you are talking about the steel structure that is about 20 stories, that is the moasky corporate center
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Old Posted Aug 18, 2006, 9:34 PM
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something odd is goin on at aladdin - the base is blue yes, BUT i have noticed that in the center it is now pure WHITE! are they having second thoughts? or is it just a primer coat goin on then the blue will follow- also on the back top there white paint seapin into the blue. i havnt noticed this white 'primer' before so maybe they are redesigning the
paint job'

also....

the palms fantasy tower is FINALLY done - they are in the midst of taking down the crane. panorma tower 2 is bare at the top, but the crown is takin shape - tower 3 has a full crane up.

city center is UNBELIEVABLE! i counted about 5 fully erected (and HUGE) cranes, dozens of bulldozers on both site of frank sinatra (street-behind property) running from new york newyork to bellagio. the parking lot looks almost complete- the tower looks like its on the second level now - but who knows, its a mess of concrete, steel, and dirt - but theres ALOT goin on there.

cosmo just gets sucked up into the ess with everything citycenter is doing.

trump is doin something interesting. the gold cladding is complete all the way up to the current floor built! seems like they dont want to show the bare bones of the structure so they hault the construction til the gold glass gets put in, then they built a few more floors- wait til the windows catch up etc.

and lastly - palazzo's core is about 3/5 of the way to meet the top of venetian - that thing is goin fast!

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Old Posted Aug 18, 2006, 10:15 PM
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check out the above picture - its of wynn in maccau - notice the BELLAGIO fountains in the front...and thats not the stratosphere in the background - i guess its some other tower-funny -

weird how wynn is using his old tecniques on his maccau property - while wynn (the hotel) aint so differnt than bellagio- wynn maccau is even closer
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Old Posted Aug 18, 2006, 10:56 PM
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ScottG, look here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macau_Tower

It looks like a Stratosphere clone if I ever saw one.

Also look at this page, Macau has casinos that actually have closing hours! That would be unheard of here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_in_Macau

Elvis has Entered the Building

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In a joint announcement Thursday, CKX Inc., the parent company of Elvis Presley Enterprises, and Cirque du Soleil said they are partners in an Elvis show that will open in November 2009 at the $7 billion MGM Mirage CityCenter project.
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CKX chairman and CEO Robert Sillerman called it "the first step in establishing a 21st century presence in Vegas for the King."

Construction has begun on the 66-acre CityCenter site, between the Bellagio and Monte Carlo.

Bringing Elvis under Cirque's big top is the latest collaborative coup for Cirque founder Guy Laliberte, who also landed The Beatles music for "Love," which opened June 28 at The Mirage.

CKX and Cirque had announced an agreement to create, develop, produce and promote Elvis Presley Projects, which would feature touring and permanent shows, with multimedia interactive "Elvis Experiences" throughout the world.

Starting in 2009, that agreement will see at least one project open in each of the ensuing six years.
Monorail VS BUS on the Strip

>Say BYE BYE to the palms trees in the center median if this happens.



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'Plenty of riders to go around,' RTC says

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Double-decker 'Deuce' buses make their way north on the Strip. The Regional Transportation Commission wants to put an express bus line down the center of the busy tourist corridor.
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A proposed express bus line down the center of the Strip will likely vie for some of the same riders as the struggling Las Vegas Monorail, local public transit authorities said this week.

But Regional Transportation Commission officials believe there are enough potential riders within the resort corridor to support two rapid transit systems.
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"With more than 38 million tourists coming to Southern Nevada (annually), there are plenty of riders to go around," Tracy Bower, spokeswoman for the Regional Transportation Commission, which is backing the express bus plan, said Wednesday. "If you go down the Strip any time of day or night, there's thousands of people trying to get around."

Attempts to interview monorail officials this week were unsuccessful. But in a phone message, Ingrid Reisman, vice president of the Las Vegas Monorail Co., said she had not seen the RTC plan and therefore could not comment on its effect on the monorail.

The RTC's plan, called the regional fixed guideway, calls for replacing Las Vegas Boulevard South medians with bus-only lanes from Sunset Road to Sahara Avenue or beyond by 2014 as part of a planned $980 million fast bus line that someday could stretch from North Las Vegas to Henderson via downtown Las Vegas, the Strip and McCarran International Airport.

In the resort corridor, the line would run parallel to the monorail, which plies a 4-mile route behind the Strip's east side from Tropicana Avenue to Sahara.

The $650 million monorail has struggled to gain riders since first opening in 2004. Ridership has floated between 20,000 and 30,000 daily passengers, far less than the 50,000 daily riders first forecast.

The monorail has yet to produce a profit and had its bond rating fall to "junk" status, though deep cash reserves have kept the system afloat.

Already, officials at both the RTC and Las Vegas Monorail Co. had said the monorail appeared to be losing as many as 6,000 riders per day to "The Deuce," a double-decker bus service that launched service on the Strip earlier this year and carries more than 50,000 passengers each day.

Some planners believe tourists are choosing the gridlocked "Deuce" over the faster monorail because of the bus's more central location on the Strip itself, as opposed to being behind Strip hotels. The guideway would conceivably combine prime location with high speed.

"There may be some crossover" among targeted riders for the guideway and monorail, Bower said. "It depends where people are starting their trip and where they're going."

The buses would be similar to the bullet-shaped Metropolitan Area Express buses that already ply Las Vegas Boulevard North, making infrequent trainlike "station" stops instead of pausing at numerous corners as do traditional fixed route buses.

The aim of the guideway plan is to create a fast, dedicated path so that buses can avoid congestion without taking away traffic lanes on the vehicle-clogged Strip. It's projected that 113,000 riders would use the resort corridor route each day.

"Our goal is to provide a service that will work for both the visitors and local residents," Bower said. "We hope this will help alleviate the pressure on nearby streets that are used by employees."

The guideway's Strip route is a revision of its originally planned path through the resort corridor along Frank Sinatra Drive, between the Strip and Interstate 15.

Under that plan, RTC officials anticipated the two systems would service entirely different ridership groups, with the monorail carrying tourists and the guideway serving resort workers.

"We don't think it'll be competition to the monorail. The two of them would be complimentary," RTC general manager Jacob Snow said in 2004. "If you're going to work at the Bellagio, that's where you go, off Frank Sinatra. All the employee parking is there."

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Old Posted Aug 19, 2006, 7:42 AM
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Boy you guys made me work.

Here's the original stratosphere sketch
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Here's the original stratosphere sketch
I don't know if this matters to anyone...I only know this because I was there at the time (though I had nothing to do with the tower ) but this was not the "original" design of the Stratosphere Tower. If you read the wind engineering report (page 2773) it says that the proposal to increase the height of the tower to 1828 feet arose after construction had begun. The original height (if I remember correctly) was 1049 feet (exactly 100 feet shorter than the final product). Although it would have been nice to have the world's tallest free-standing structure in Las Vegas, I'm happier with what we got. That spire (IMHO) would have been way out of proportion to the rest of the tower and would have been very odd looking.

The Stratosphere has had an interesting history...one crooked leg, a fire during construction, this proposed extension. Bob Stupak was never boring.

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Old Posted Aug 19, 2006, 4:04 PM
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I would have to agree, from that pdf you posted, the spire looks ungodly tall and out of proportion.

Perhaps this was another one of Stupak's crazy modifications? I'm sure you all remember the Giant Ape going up the side idea... It's obvious he was making a ditch effort to top the CN tower. He was building this huge tower back then which people thought was crazy, why not go all out?

Anyhow with the Burj Dubai it wouldn't be the tallest now anyway. And using extremely tall and narrow spires to some seems to be a cheap way to add height.
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We probably should move this discussion to another thread...

But this (my quick and dirty edit on the right) might have been very nice to look at indeed


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