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Old Posted Aug 1, 2018, 9:50 PM
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BC is more white collar while Alberta is blue collar. This leads to increased socialism in BC and capitalism in Alberta.

Also, there is the debate over the pipeline which is causing a large conflict between the two.
I'd be surprised if any province were as white collar as AB given Calgary's supersized corporate base and the Province's country leading public services bloat. BC is more no collar as in retired, trust fund entitled or living off imagined real estate wealth.
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I'd be surprised if any province were as white collar as AB given Calgary's supersized corporate base and the Province's country leading public services bloat. BC is more no collar as in retired, trust fund entitled or living off imagined real estate wealth.
That seems a bit harsh?

BC has plenty of home grown businesses and hard working individuals.
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I'd be surprised if any province were as white collar as AB given Calgary's supersized corporate base and the Province's country leading public services bloat. BC is more no collar as in retired, trust fund entitled or living off imagined real estate wealth.
Very true.
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I think BC and Alberta have a close relationship, but I don't think there's any sense that they fit together in any way. Lots of people in Vancouver have connections to Calgary and Edmonton, and they're often some of the first cities that seem to come to mind if relocation is being considered. But is there some sort of shared far west identity that New Brunswick, PEI, and Nova Scotia might have as the Maritimes? No, I don't think so.
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Old Posted Aug 3, 2018, 9:38 PM
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I'd be surprised if any province were as white collar as AB given Calgary's supersized corporate base and the Province's country leading public services bloat. BC is more no collar as in retired, trust fund entitled or living off imagined real estate wealth.
My mistake if I am wrong, thanks for correcting me.

We definitely have more trust fund entitled people and tree huggers then Alberta.
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I'm gonna guess Ontario is more white collar than Alberta.
Part of one city does not a province make.
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One thing I've noticed is that right-wingers in BC take up the mantle of "the West" more. For example James Moore was on Power and Politics today where they where discussing Trans Mountain and the setback in court upset him not as a partisan Conservative but as a "Westerner."

But left-wingers in BC identify more with BC's unique "left coast" identity.
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2023, 11:03 PM
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Saw this on Wikipedia:

"Alberta and British Columbia are also sometimes subcategorized together, either as the "Rockie Provinces" or "mountain provinces" owing to both hosting large swathes of the mountain range, or due to shared socio-economic, cultural, and demographic factors such as their highly urbanized populations (three of Canada's five largest cities are Calgary, Edmonton, and Vancouver) and significant interprovincial mobility between the two."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Canada

I've never heard of the "mountain provinces."
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2023, 5:46 PM
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I've never heard of "mountain provinces" either, it's made up and never used. Although there is some rationale to lumping BC and Alberta together for some things, for many of the reasons mentioned in that article. SK and MB are very much categorized together for good reason, but AB is only partially in that prairie category, and the more large and urban it's becoming, it is less and less like its prairie neighbours.
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Pluralities in all four Western provinces define Western Canada "correctly." British Columbians feel more removed from the West of a whole (30% opt for the strictest definition), virtually nobody in Alberta feels most closely linked to BC.

https://angusreid.org/new-west-western-identity/

BC

BC/AB/SK/MB 37%
BC/AB only 30%
BC/AB/SK 23%
AB/SK/MB 6%

Alberta

BC/AB/SK/MB 40%
AB/SK/MB 35%
BC/AB/SK 17%
BC/AB only 4%

Among other provinces and states, Albertans overwhelmingly felt closest to Saskatchewan (70%), while British Columbians felt closest to Washington State (54%).


There was more BC/AB affinity in the early 1990s, however.
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Pluralities in all four Western provinces define Western Canada "correctly." British Columbians feel more removed from the West of a whole (30% opt for the strictest definition), virtually nobody in Alberta feels most closely linked to BC.

https://angusreid.org/new-west-western-identity/

BC

BC/AB/SK/MB 37%
BC/AB only 30%
BC/AB/SK 23%
AB/SK/MB 6%

Alberta

BC/AB/SK/MB 40%
AB/SK/MB 35%
BC/AB/SK 17%
BC/AB only 4%

Among other provinces and states, Albertans overwhelmingly felt closest to Saskatchewan (70%), while British Columbians felt closest to Washington State (54%).


There was more BC/AB affinity in the early 1990s, however.
The article there is 4 years old and I would not be surprised of the pandemic maybe increased negative sentiment. Though it is pretty telling how Western Canada (BC/AB/SK) sees English/French bilingualism as negative or no impact. That's been pretty consistent because nobody in BC or Alberta needs French to function, and feel it's an impediment to getting a (federal) government job and nothing else.

Meanwhile if English is not your first language and you come from a country that neither English or French is considered important to know (eg most of Asia) you are now burdened with having to know three languages to live in Quebec. As it's been pointed out in the past, Quebec benefits financially from allowing in as many immigrants as possible, but few immigrants settle there because of the hostile provincial government to anyone who doesn't speak French as a first language. Hence immigrants have to move where their own ethnic exclave already exists.


Aside from the language question, people who live in BC and people who live in Alberta will generally share a few sentiments.

- Major Cities are different from Rural, with major cities generally being more liberal-bent
- Environmental policy gets in the way of natural resource exploitation

Rural Alberta differs in two ways from Rural BC.

Rural BC presently sees every city being turned into wealthy retirement communities. So housing shortages are being driven from outside forces. Not so for Alberta, where Alberta has really "no appeal" to retire to. You can confirm this yourself by looking at realtor.ca and look at how many time-shares spam up the listings in BC, and yet are almost entirely absent across the prairies.

The other way is that Alberta rural is focused around "farming", where as the only farms in BC are next to major cities, and thus aren't rural.

If the political parties want a win, they pretty much need to solve housing this decade, because the clock is ticking, and families stop having children when they can't afford a home.
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B.C. is a complex beast. People close to the ocean tend to be left wing, while those on 1050 km away are quote right wing. The biggest issue we have in BC is that people in Vancouver decide our political system alone. The folks in the Lower Main land do not have a clue what life is like in the Okanagan and the interior other then while on a boat or a beach. Outside the Lower main land we have much more in common with Alberta then we do with our Sea living kin.
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Old Posted Jul 20, 2023, 10:13 PM
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B.C. is a complex beast. People close to the ocean tend to be left wing, while those on 1050 km away are quote right wing. The biggest issue we have in BC is that people in Vancouver decide our political system alone. The folks in the Lower Main land do not have a clue what life is like in the Okanagan and the interior other then while on a boat or a beach. Outside the Lower main land we have much more in common with Alberta then we do with our Sea living kin.

I never felt that way as a Kelownian. I moved to Calgary years ago, and it was very apparent that things were different culturally, especially as a young adult.
Maybe some of the politics line up between the Okanagan and Alberta, but Kelowna feels much more close to Vancouver culturally than anywhere in Alberta.
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...bchl-1.7091078

As if there isn't enough reason for AB/BC to go for each others' throats already...
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