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Old Posted Nov 3, 2005, 4:08 AM
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Another nice tower! When all these tall towers are built I think you will have the best skyline in the U.S.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 3, 2005, 4:25 AM
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True, We do!, and I like this tower very much. BVic what was the picture of the building on columbus (was it just this tower put at that parking lot?) It will not ruin the scale if anything it is bridging between the loop and just north.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 3, 2005, 5:30 AM
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^ I think you're referring to the City Front Plaza but that is a different project.


"Another nice tower! When all these tall towers are built I think you will have the best skyline in the U.S."

I just came back from New York and I lived there for a few years...No doubt NYC is a beautiful place and it has a beautiful skyline but I really think Chicago has the nicest skyline in the U.S. right now as it is.
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If the city grants a zoning change and the project gets approval, then why are the developers waiting until mid-2007 at the earliest to begin construction? Is that the date the new tower will rise or when the deconstruction of the exiting POS will begin?
     
     
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The Economist dubbed Chicago, as I recall, "the capital of flyover country."

The Economist also referred to Chicago, as I recall, "probably the most well managed city in America."
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I'm starting to believe this city has hit some critical mass that's attracting buyers and wealth not heard from before - because the number of new, expensive units is staggering... especially considering it's been a long time since there's been a significant project that died due to sales.
This is a big and interesting topic. And to think that not too recently The Economist dubbed Chicago, as I recall, "the capital of flyover country." Why does critical mass (with a nod to the bicyclists) seem so much more important now than 20 years ago? Back then, the average good kid graduating from the U of M would be happy with suburban Detroit. No longer... and thus Chicago gains. Miami, Chicago, NY, SF. How did this precipitate?
^ Gas prices, and people are realizing just how incredibly spirit-less suburbia is. In the 90's people didn't care because everybody was making tons of money and buying SUV's, but it is safe to say that America has undergone a complete 180
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^Uh, no. It isn't because people hate suburbia or because suburbia is somehow spiritually lacking (gag).

It is because Chicago proper is becoming a dramatically more attractive place to be (as is Chicago suburbia).

This is largely thanks to Mayor Daley, who pays special attention to the aesthetics and amenities of the city, who doesn't engage in class and race-based antogonistic politics, who is pro-growth, pro-business, and pro capitalism in general, and who has made good faith efforts (with some success) to improve the city's schools.

Chicago politics has a bit of petty corruption, but is otherwise very healthy compared to other places, like Detroit (and even compared with its own past). That makes a huge difference, and is the key to why Chicago has been able to turn its natural advantages into such great success.
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Here's a better image of the base (would be larger but file size constraints):

     
     
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Old Posted Nov 4, 2005, 2:37 AM
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Awesome. Nice that the building's design depends on the addition of that great little side park. So the park isn't an optional add on -- if the building happens, the park will definitely happen too. That stretch of Illinois St. is currently so dumpy -- this project will be an unbelievable improvement.
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Wow, this one is nice.

You guys have got so many of these going up, it's practically getting boring!
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That's a great image. It will add more retail to that part of Michigan Ave.
The glass is also a nice contrast with the brownish tones of the Inter-Continental Hotel.
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Can we get a rendering of the city in like 2009 with:

Trump Tower
Waterview Tower
Fordham Spire
300 N. LaSalle
InterContinental North Tower
65 E. Huron
Legacy at Millenium Park
340 on the Park
Mandarin Oriental Tower
the Studio Gang tower
One Museum Park
The Elysian


... and what else am I missing? Those buildings alone would beat any North American skyline outside Chicago and New York...

Here's a cheap and hastily done version:



Why yes, yes that is Robert E. Lee park. And yes that fog is rather weird. Unfortunately this city wasn't built on a grid.
     
     
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Here are scans from the zoning application.









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Can we get a rendering of the city in like 2009 with:

Trump Tower
Waterview Tower
Fordham Spire
300 N. LaSalle
InterContinental North Tower
65 E. Huron
Legacy at Millenium Park
340 on the Park
Mandarin Oriental Tower
the Studio Gang tower
One Museum Park
The Elysian


... and what else am I missing? Those buildings alone would beat any North American skyline outside Chicago and New York...

Here's a cheap and hastily done version:



Why yes, yes that is Robert E. Lee park. And yes that fog is rather weird. Unfortunately this city wasn't built on a grid.
Almost looks like lower manhattan.
     
     
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Can we get a rendering of the city in like 2009 with:

Trump Tower
Waterview Tower
Fordham Spire
300 N. LaSalle
InterContinental North Tower
65 E. Huron
Legacy at Millenium Park
340 on the Park
Mandarin Oriental Tower
the Studio Gang tower
One Museum Park
The Elysian


... and what else am I missing? Those buildings alone would beat any North American skyline outside Chicago and New York...

Here's a cheap and hastily done version:



Why yes, yes that is Robert E. Lee park. And yes that fog is rather weird. Unfortunately this city wasn't built on a grid.

Spyguy, there is a request over at SSC for this pic, could you post it over there? thanks!
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 4, 2005, 11:06 PM
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hmmmm . . . I am not a fan of that building. Despite what the developer said, it certainly won't complement the older building, which, btw, was built as a men's club - The Medinah Club. It will totally overwhelm it, and the surrounding buildings. Don't get me wrong, I love tall buildings, and I am no fan of the current building (the northern portion), but the scale is wrong wrong wrong. NOW - BVictor gets the zoning application and WHAT is going to happen to entrance to the older building? There is a lovely split staircase with terrific stone and wood work. Looking at the floor plan, I see no staircase in that location. Are they planning to gut the first floor of the old Medinah building?
     
     
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