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Old Posted Mar 29, 2017, 6:51 PM
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Self driving cars will only turn stop and go jams into a plodding conveyor belt of cars. They do not solve the fact that a single person in a single car is an inefficient use of space and infrastructure. What they will do is cut down on the need for onsite parking freeing up more land for development.
I'm sure that self-driving would work better than regular cars, but the thing that mass transit will always have is --- schedules. Traffic flow can be planned in the latter case. One can never plan, in more than a general way (like rush hour) for where and when more autonomous vehicles are going to show up.
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yes and people fail to realize that the US is really only major industrialized country that allowed most of it's cities to decline for 30-40 years. Urban living didn't go out of vogue in Europe and other places just because the car became more commonplace.[/U][/U] People are used to doing more with less space in other parts of the world, even in rich countries.
For Europe, the difference is that they have an awesome rail system that people actually use not just for work but leisure, and the historical cost-prohibitive price of petrol was really a luxury to have a car, so many didn't have them. So, you could get all your services living in the city and not be dependent on getting services with the use of a car outside of the city.

Recently, I heard that because of the lower price of gasoline in the US, people are willing to live and commute from the farther reaches of the suburbs and the big SUVs are back in vogue. East and West Coasts will continue to rise in population and density. All trends point to this, but I don't think the suburbs are going anywhere anytime soon. Different folks/different strokes, I guess. There will always be a cycle of people transitioning from city to suburbs to city for whatever reasons or people that will always live in the city or people that will always live in the suburbs.
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I heard rumors there was a development proposed in North Philly near the train station. Anyone want to talk about that?
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I heard rumors there was a development proposed in North Philly near the train station. Anyone want to talk about that?
not much else to say about it for now.
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