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Old Posted May 25, 2007, 1:31 AM
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i bet those folks that trashed the office voluntarily gave themselves in for the free meals and a roof over their head.
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Although a general consensus/perception, the onus is on these so-called "protestors" to prove that the soaring prices of real estate is the fault of 2010.

C'mon, Vancouver is one of the world's great cities. Good times...they don't come cheap.
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Old Posted May 25, 2007, 5:38 AM
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Most of these groups are basically social clubs for people who enjoy causing trouble. Those who have caused property damage or participated in assault should be thrown in jail. Having a (fake) social cause should not allow people to get away with committing crimes.
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On May 24th, Team 1040 radio's Pratt & Taylor interviewed David Cunningham and shocking and disgusting revelations about him were made.......here is the interview if you missed it:

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4RyjtdNzII

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs3xDDs6Hek


So these were the basic points if you missed the outrageous live interview:

- David Cunningham works 2 days a week for the Downtown Eastside Residents Association
- he is both mentally and physically capable of employment
- he is reluctant to go work more than 2 days a week, as the radio hosts suggested "how about working 5 days a week instead?"
- radio hosts: you work up from the bottom to the top, you don't go from 0 to 100
- he is reluctant to go elsewhere to find employment, where available (Port Moody even to be a handymen), where housing is also more available
- he thinks he is entitled to housing and food; entitled to rely on the gov't; reluctant to work

- Pratt and Taylor got angry, talked about how they also worked from bottom to top to their positions....working for $326 a month in the interior when they were 18.

Quite a view shocking and rather disgusting revelations. Sadly, this has been the exact same thing I've been saying about people like Cunningham and the APC. I always knew they were frauds.
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On May 24th, Team 1040 radio's Pratt & Taylor interviewed David Cunningham and shocking and disgusting revelations about him were made.......here is the interview if you missed it:

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4RyjtdNzII

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs3xDDs6Hek


So these were the basic points if you missed the outrageous live interview:

- David Cunningham works 2 days a week for the Downtown Eastside Residents Association
- he is both mentally and physically capable of employment
- he is reluctant to go work more than 2 days a week, as the radio hosts suggested "how about working 5 days a week instead?"
- radio hosts: you work up from the bottom to the top, you don't go from 0 to 100
- he is reluctant to go elsewhere to find employment, where available (Port Moody even to be a handymen), where housing is also more available
- he thinks he is entitled to housing and food; entitled to rely on the gov't; reluctant to work

- Pratt and Taylor got angry, talked about how they also worked from bottom to top to their positions....working for $326 a month in the interior when they were 18.

Quite a view shocking and rather disgusting revelations. Sadly, this has been the exact same thing I've been saying about people like Cunningham and the APC. I always knew they were frauds.

LOL..... Hilarious!! Pratt and Taylor just bitch slapped him. Good job. Beautiful sight. David Cunningham deserves it!! Finally someone has the bravery to do it in public in the radio station. It's time the gov't does the same thing too.

I especially agree with how P&T mentioned that most ppl should be able to get a job (doesn't matter what) with our booming economy right now, especially with labour shortages, especially in the construction industry. So that's no excuse for Cunningham. Also, WHY would he want to work 2 days a wk?

Furthermore, from the interview, it shows that Cunningham is nothing but a worthless Commie. Class war huh? Pls evict this clown out of Canada and send him to N.Korea.

So, the bottomline is: Fuck you, David Cunningham, and go get a fucking job.

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Anti-Olympic activism ramps up

By Stephanie Levitz, Canadian Press
Published: Saturday, May 26, 2007

Stolen flags, pending lawsuits, threats of violence, the symbolic eviction of Olympics organizers from their offices.

Though another day, another protest, has long been the mantra on Canada's left coast, opposition to the 2010 Winter Olympics is moving activism in Vancouver beyond the blissed-out sit-ins that have characterized it in the past.

Letter-writing just doesn't cut it for the people the Olympics is hurting, says David Cunningham of Vancouver's Anti-Poverty Committee, a group representing and agitating for Vancouver's poor.

"It doesn't work for poor people because we can't afford to lobby, we don't have anything to put forth, we can't barter anything," Cunningham said in an interview.

"We believe that power respects power and the only power that poor people have right now, in this context, is our ability to disrupt the politics of the elite."

Cunningham's committee has gained notoriety in recent months for intense, vocal protests at city council meetings and the launch of the Olympic countdown clock and for occupying single-resident-occupancy hotels slated for destruction or eviction on the Downtown East side.

But its biggest anti- Olympic action has just begun - the targeting of each member of the Vancouver Olympic organizing committee with the aim of evicting them from their homes and offices in retaliation for what the APEC is calling the eviction of the city's poor by the Olympics.

On Tuesday, the group trashed the premier's office in downtown Vancouver, where Ken Dobell, a member of the Olympic organizing committee also sits, although the three protesters didn't get to his office.

The militancy of the protests is born of desperation and the urgent need for something to be done for Vancouver's homeless and poor, Cunningham said.
"We're not really concerned about being a popular organization," he said. "We're not politicians, we're not out to get more funding. We just do what needs to be done."

The level of vitriol being spewed in VANOC's direction is out of sync with its ability to make any changes in the socioeconomic realities of Vancouver, said Frank King, chairman and CEO of the 1988 Calgary Olympics' organizing committee.

During those Games, the major protest voice came from the environmental movement concerned that Olympic development would ruin swaths of pristine alpine territory, King said - an issue that was directly linked to the approaching Olympics.

"Did somebody ever represent that the main advantage of (the Vancouver games) is that we get to build public houses?" King said.

"It's an unrelated thing. How about better automobiles that don't spew CO2 so much? Should VANOC be paying for that too? You can go down a ridiculous road of things that it would be nice to have."

Games organizers feel much the same. During a news conference after the Anti-Poverty Committee had levied its threats of eviction, board chairman Jack Poole said protesters weren't targeting the right people with their cries for change.

"Frankly, their quarrel is with someone else, it's not with us," he said. "I guess we are seen as a convenient target to get at others but it can't be a quarrel with us. We are here to put on the Games."

King said activists instead should be holding all levels of government to account on how they'll be spending the millions of dollars the Olympics will generate for Vancouver and British Columbia, pointing out that tax revenues from the Games flow directly to government coffers and could be spent on the very things protesters are after.


Protesters don't agree.

Chris Shaw of 2010 Olympic Games Watch says VANOC is precisely the group that needs to be lobbied as it controls and decides on planning and development required for the Games.

"They keep putting out these really pathetic business plans, they are not open, they are not accountable and they are spending money like drunken sailors," Shaw said.

His group also plans to step up its anti-Olympic activity.

Plans for lawsuits and civil actions are underway to make hosting the Games as difficult in Vancouver as possible and to show other cities the dangers of bringing the Games home, Shaw said.

`I don't know what will work, but I do know what has been done so far hasn't worked," he said. "For groups to try other things, we're not talking about killing people here, but for using other civil disobedience methods, that may be very much on the table and what can and should happen."

But another watch group, the Impact of the Olympics on Community Coalition, feels the focus should be on maximizing the benefits of the Games and mitigating their negative impact.

"We're not completely opposed to the Games and we're not completely in favour," said ICC's Rob VanWynsberghe.

"We feel like this is a catalyst or a lever that could be used for positive change in the region."

But VanWynsberghe says there are some areas of concern too.

"We are concerned about housing because we recognize that there's going to be a massive need, in terms of the environment we don't know what's going on. What are we trying to do in terms of alternative energy, in terms of zero waste and we are worried about civil liberties because we see there are some signs out there that civil liberties will not be respected much."

Both the Vancouver police and the RCMP, which share policing duties for the Olympics because of the venues in different jurisdictions, are quick to point out that they support the idea of peaceful protest.

But Vancouver police spokesman Howard Chow says the Anti-Poverty Committee represent an escalation of violence not in line with activism in Vancouver.

"Protesters don't show up at demonstrations with bandannas and masks around their face. Protesters don't show up at demonstrations brandishing rocks or glass bottles filled with paint or urine. Protesters don't damage property, don't assault people and that's what we've been seeing the last number of events," Chow said.

"It's a huge concern for us."

The Olympics present a unique challenge to the protest movement, says Jason Gratl, president of the B.C. Civil Liberties Association.

"The presence of national security concerns bring an extraordinary level of policing that threatens civil liberties and freedoms," he said.

There's an ongoing trend, Gratl said, of police and organizations cordoning off or attempting to manage protests that effectively sweeps dissent under the rug.

At the recent VANOC meeting, Anti-Poverty Committee protesters left after levying their threats against the committee because they refused to be penned into the area designated by police.

"There might be a perception that protest, even lawful protest, is unattractive to an international audience and bad for the reputation of British Columbia but that's a bit of a shortsighted view," Gratl said.

"The manifestation of an obviously vibrant democracy is an impression that we want to convey to the world."

Gratl said it's obvious that vociferous debate on the impact Olympic development is having on marginalized communities in Vancouver is having an impact - the provincial government announced recently it is spending $80 million to buy 11 single room occupancy hotels in Vancouver and Victoria and to fund more supportive housing units in the Lower Mainland.

But he said he is concerned that no attention is being paid to how dissent will be managed in the context of security concerns for the Games.

He said his organization plans to keep an eye on how far police are willing to go to keep the peace among the protest movement.

Last weekend, they may have crossed a line.

A Vancouver police officer posing as a reporter set up a meeting with Cunningham under the pretence of seeking an interview, but arrested him instead.

The move sparked anger among the journalistic community and a police spokesman said he had never heard of the tactic being used before.

Then the Anti-Poverty Committee trashed the premier's office during a news conference at an alternate location - a move Cunningham said it made to fool the police and the media.

"Their moronic efforts to isolate me as the leader of the Anti-Poverty Committee works to our benefit," Cunningham said.

"We're an open democratic organization that takes its own initiative without any bureaucracies. Power-hungry freaks like the cops and the government will never be able to understand that. They are going to waste all their resources and time and surveillance on me while people are evicting the offices like the APEC promised to do."


© Vancouver Sun 2007




Not only is Cunningham an idiot, so is Chris Shaw (remember him during the bid phase?). In this article, he claims that VANOC is spending money like drunken sailors.....but the fact is, VANOC is only spending on what has to be spent. Nothing extravagant or overambitious is being planned for these Games....look at the venues. VANOC even cut the venue budget by $60 million, by downsizing venue plans, before asking governments for a further $110 million. Fiscally, we are doing much better than London (the budget went from $4 billion to $16 billion in just two years), Athens (billions and billions and billions more....), Torino ($600 million more and TOROC nearly went bankrupt), and Beijing (for the obvious reasons). Even SLC saw something like a $300 million in venue costs.

Right now, we are hosting one of the most modest modern Winter Games ever....in fact, maybe even too modest.

Hopefully, VANOC and the 2010 security team will make a plan to handle protests during the Games.
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That interview was quite something.
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unfortunately, the antics of these guys HURT their cause. other VALID criticisms of the olympics are often ignored or are lumped with the lunatic fringe. many of the olympic's biggest backers also had the most to gain from various contracts for construction, land, security, etc.
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Housing crisis? What housing crisis?
Protesters say the 2010 Games have driven 1,000 people out of their homes. Critics ask them to prove it

ARMINA LIGAYA

May 26, 2007

VANCOUVER -- He called his room at the Patricia Hotel home for more than 60 years.

So when Olaf Solheim and his belongings were tossed out onto the streets of the Downtown Eastside in 1986 - leaving the elderly man disoriented and alone - it was more than his body could handle.

Mr. Solheim was one of more than 1,000 people evicted from area hotels by owners who wanted to rent their single-occupancy rooms to the influx of tourists predicted for Expo 86. Because of the stress from the disruption, Mr. Solheim, who was more than 80 years old, disabled and frail, later starved himself to death.

It's the threat of similar evictions leading up to the 2010 Olympic Games that has the activist group Anti-Poverty Committee stepping up their vehement campaign of civil disobedience.

But others close to the cause are wondering where the evidence is that these same types of evictions are happening.

"Things are different now," Jim Green, a former mayoral candidate who continues to be an advocate for the homeless, said. "We have the single-room accommodation bylaw, we have the guarantee that the Olympic committee made themselves that nobody would be made homeless or displaced as a result of the Olympics ... And if I find out that's not true, I will not be supporting the Olympics."

Tuesday's trashing of the Vancouver offices of Premier Gordon Campbell, in what the APC called a symbolic eviction of Mr. Campbell's adviser and Olympic board member Ken Dobell, was the latest in a series of protests surrounding Olympic Games preparations.

The aggressive tactics of the APC - which wants to cancel the Games and redirect spending to social housing and alleviating poverty - have prompted police to ramp up security around offices and Olympic events, at a hefty cost to taxpayers. The break-in came after APC organizer David Cunningham said they would target the workplaces of VANOC board members, evicting these executives in the same way residents of the Downtown Eastside are allegedly being displaced.

However, Mayor Sam Sullivan has said no one has been evicted as a result of the 2010 Games.

"Anybody who invests in housing knows that to evict someone for an event lasting 17 days is not a viable strategy. The issue is just a red herring by these people to cloud the issue ... Absolutely no one has been evicted because of the Olympics."

APC organizers, however, say there have been more than 1,000 people who have been put on the street. But when asked, the activist group isn't able to produce these evictees.

"I think that it's over 1,000 people," APC organizer Anna Hunter said. "Have we been able to count that number of people? Definitely not. I think it's an impossible number to actually count."

Ms. Hunter cited the Golden Palace Hotel, whose owner stated in the media that he planned to evict his tenants and rent to Olympic Games' workers. She also cited an interim report card by the Impact of the Olympics on Community Coalition (IOCC) that said 800 rooms of low-income housing have been lost since June, 2003. These losses stem from the gentrification of the Downtown Eastside, she said, a push that has been sparked by the Games.

"I and the Anti-Poverty Committee would say yes, those are due to the Olympics," she said.

Mr. Green said he worries about Games-related evictions, but was skeptical that 1,000 people have been displaced. The Downtown Eastside has about 6,000 residents, he said, and a displacement that large would be very visible.

"Somebody can't find 10 or 15 or 20? At the time, the [Vancouver] Sun ran a four-page spread about who these evictees were ... the point is, where are these evictees?" Mr. Green said. "It's not the way to build support for a cause, by not telling the truth."


David Eby - a lawyer with the Pivot Legal Society and a director with the IOCC - said evictions are taking place, stemming from pressure by Olympic-related projects, but it is hard to pinpoint the exact cause.

"But in terms of total numbers, I don't know," he said. "I've heard some numbers floated that they're saying ... that I think are more rhetorical than I think what's happening on the ground."

Mr. Eby said it's less likely there will be Expo 86-type evictions now, because there are protections in place. But he said there aren't any regulations stopping the slow conversion of hotels to make way for higher-paying tenants.

"I think it's fair to say that these evictions would have happened in any event," Mr. Eby said. "I think the issue is the speed at which they are happening. I think that it's rapidly accelerated as a result of the Olympics."

Kris Olds, a geography professor at the University of Wisconsin who has studied the impact of past Olympics and World's Fairs, said the displacement of lower-income residents is a typical outcome of these large-scale events. During the Calgary Olympics, he said, without regulations in place, some towers were cleared out and rented to tourists on a day-to-day basis.

But, he said, these events can have positive effects, such as bringing in outside money to fund infrastructure projects. One way to mitigate its negative consequences is to have all levels of government state publicly that housing rights will be respected in the host city.

Housing is one of the 12 areas of commitments on the Inner-City Inclusive Commitment Statement signed by the city, the province and the federal government, to ensure the Games don't adversely affect the inner city.

But Mr. Eby said VANOC has done a lacklustre job of leaving a legacy of affordable housing.

"I think they've done a very poor job," Mr. Eby said. "If they really meant what they said ... they would work really hard to ensure that their government partners were building housing. But I don't see that happening."

He cited the lack of affordable housing in the athletes' village, which was cut down to 20 per cent of the entire project, leaving just 25 units allocated for low-income singles.

Mr. Green also said VANOC has not done enough. But he cited the province's $80-million commitment to purchase 15 buildings - 10 of which are in Vancouver - as a victory due to the Games, one that will provide nearly 1,000 units for the homeless.

"Not enough, but a very good thing," Mr. Green said. "Nothing like that happened during Expo. So we had a different situation than we do now. The people are very aware of what happened in 1986, and are very concerned ... I feel very strongly that the Olympics can still be very positive for the future of this community."
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There really need to be an Anti APC group. They are just a loud group of 12 propaganda spreading criminals that need to learn to shut up. They've driven the police and the public to no longer show them an ounce of respect. In fact, they are giving their cause a bad name! I truly doubt any sliver of the public supports their ways and means.

Of course, we need better social housing. However, the fact still remains that the market controls things, and while we can provide a number of units for people, if the land is expensive and you can't afford the area, you need to move elsewhere. That's one reason why the suburbs exist. There's also outstanding issues with rehabilitation, and social services, and even education at the k-12 level. The whole issue is extremely complicated and trying to blame it all on the Olympics is extremely idiotic.

Furthermore, the Olympics are coming, whether they like it or not, so learn to work with them. There's a far greater chance for the twinning of the Port Mann to be cancelled then for the Olympics to be shut down. If you don't like the Olympics, you are free to move to an Olympic-free city (like Toronto ). Vancouver held a vote, the majority supported the Games, and now they are on their way. Despite their large costs, winning the Olympic bid is something we should take pride in, and show the world how great of a city, and country we are.
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The whole issue is extremely complicated and trying to blame it all on the Olympics is extremely idiotic.
Amen.
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An old video of a city council meeting in January 2007, with the infamous Anti-Poverty Committee barging in on a Vancouver city council meeting with a "skit":

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Ridiculously sad, stupid and lame. You can also see the city councillors leaving during their little performance, lol.
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The clowns are at it again...

Anti-Poverty Committee protesters are being investigated for allegedly dumping loads of garbage outside a high-rise building in the 1000-block of Homer Street - the home of Vancouver mayor Sam Sullivan - Friday. The APC was protesting the ongoing civic workers' strike.

24 Hours Vancouver

All the other people who live in the building (and have nothing to do with the strike) must be thrilled.
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yeah

and the last week i have noticed a lot more graffiti all over Vancouver - mainly the east side - that says

RIOT 2010

so something is gearing up to happen

they have graffiti on billboards, signs, posts, even some cement barriers at road construction

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^Odds are that this is just some kid who thought Riot 2010 was a cool tag name, so it would be unfair to pin it on the APC. Though they could be responsible. I would say I know a little bit about the graffiti culture, did my fair share as a teen back in the day.
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A lot of new APC posters have gone up in my neighbourhood (Gastown) in regard to a new planned squat in October. Interestingly though a lot of them have been written over with "Dip Shits" and/or simply crossed out with black pen. I've never seen their posters defaced before.
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^Odds are that this is just some kid who thought Riot 2010 was a cool tag name, so it would be unfair to pin it on the APC. Though they could be responsible. I would say I know a little bit about the graffiti culture, did my fair share as a teen back in the day.
possibly but its everywhere

a few billboards along venables, i saw it on construction stuff on commercial drive and 12th, around commercial drive, along spots at broadway

on develop permit signs, on poles, on other peoples posters

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The problem is that Canada has the pussiest laws with these kinds of things. These idiots would barely get a slap on the wrist even caught red handed.

Another problem is Canadians just rely on the police to take care of everything. Everybody is too scared to stand up to crime like this when they see it. I'd love to see how something like that would have gone down 50 years ago. There'd be bystanders kicking their asses within 10 seconds.
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hmm sounds like the idiots that fucked halifax outa the commonwealth games
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