Floodwatch - Page 17

1ajs · #**321** Posted **Apr 18, 2014, 9:20 PM**

the red was still ice coverd by the lious bridge yesterday morning not sure about in the eve as it was night when i passed over again

Riverman · #**322** Posted **Apr 18, 2014, 9:46 PM**

The two sharp curves north of downtown hold the ice in place unless the flow is strong enough to push the ice through the bridge piers, breaking it up. The flow is quite low this year and with the warm weather finally arriving the ice will begin to rot and break up gently.

rrskylar · #**323** Posted **Apr 19, 2014, 7:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by Riverman

The two sharp curves north of downtown hold the ice in place unless the flow is strong enough to push the ice through the bridge piers, breaking it up. The flow is quite low this year and with the warm weather finally arriving the ice will begin to rot and break up gently.

Last spring the ice basically just melted off, most likely again this year, probably a good thing for any of the remaining trees along the Red's banks which are mostly now on life support after all the high water years, improper usage of the floodway and the unnecessary use of the Lockport control structure.

Riverman · #**324** Posted **Apr 19, 2014, 8:28 PM**

Lockport is necessary to navigation.

1ajs · #**325** Posted **Apr 19, 2014, 10:20 PM**

http://www.britishpathe.com/video/fl...query/winnipeg

1ajs · #**326** Posted **Apr 21, 2014, 7:43 PM**

Ice jam closes Selkirk Park, threatens marine museum

Staff at the Marine Museum of Manitoba are just hours away from knowing whether they can open for their 40th anniversary year next month or later this summer.
Museum manager Shaylene Nordal said today the province’s flood forecasters have told them ice is moving on the Red River from Winnipeg and it should be in Selkirk by mid-afternoon.
While the ice is on its way from Winnipeg, there already is an ice jam near Selkirk Park which is causing town officials to close the park because of the rising water levels.
Nordal said because of the risk of the ice jamming, which can cause water levels to rise higher than expected and spill over their permanent dikes, they were told they only have two hours to move any artifacts away from their location beside the Red River.
But Nordal said they are actually ready.
"In 2007 we weren’t ready for an ice jam so all of our artifacts were there," she said.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/loc...256044141.html

cllew · #**327** Posted **Jul 5, 2014, 12:13 AM**

Looks like the Hoop and Holler is going to be breached again this year due to high river levels west of Portage.

Going to have to figure out something to do with the Assiniboine river to keep this from being every few years.

Riverman · #**328** Posted **Jul 5, 2014, 4:30 PM**

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Looks like the Hoop and Holler is going to be breached again this year due to high river levels west of Portage.

Going to have to figure out something to do with the Assiniboine river to keep this from being every few years.

Lots was promised, but the promises went unfulfilled.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opi...265791141.html

The NDP has cut scads of infrastructure money in recent years in order to bloat the public service.

Bdog · #**329** Posted **Jul 5, 2014, 5:04 PM**

Riverman, I thought you said that there wasn't going to be any flooding this year and that the flood forecasts of the Province can't be trusted...

Riverman · #**330** Posted **Jul 5, 2014, 6:54 PM**

That was when we were discussing winter flooding, not this.

Make no mistake though, there are nothing but utter fools in charge of water resources at this point.

blueandgoldguy · #**331** Posted **Jul 5, 2014, 7:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by Riverman

Lots was promised, but the promises went unfulfilled.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opi...265791141.html

The NDP has cut scads of infrastructure money in recent years in order to bloat the public service.

Don't worry about it Riverman. The cost of this flooding will give the NDP another excuse to not balance the budget.

bomberjet · #**332** Posted **Jul 5, 2014, 9:09 PM**

Maybe they shouldn't do hoop and holler, then see what happens. This seems to be the new thing going forward. So let's get some knowledge about what would actually happen. Especially since it's almost a flash flood type situation. Not a prolonged spring melt flood.

bomberjet · #**333** Posted **Jul 8, 2014, 6:08 PM**

Looking at the news articles and TV footage. The thing that surprises me about this, even though I mentioned in my earlier post, is the flash flood situation. This isn't a slow rising flood that creeps over the landscape. It's water rushing through peoples yards and across roads. A lot more dangerous and destructive. There's a video posted on the FreeP website from St. Lazare and it's just crazy down there...

Flatland Metropolis · #**334** Posted **Jul 8, 2014, 7:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

Maybe they shouldn't do hoop and holler, then see what happens. This seems to be the new thing going forward. So let's get some knowledge about what would actually happen. Especially since it's almost a flash flood type situation. Not a prolonged spring melt flood.

I feel entirely the same way. It didn't matter last time, will the dykes actually break this time. Prolly not, but lets find out. And if they don't shouldn't the bloody things be upgraded so they can handle floods like these? I mean this is the second major flood in three years. We have had two summers to upgrade them, why hasn't this been done already.

bomberjet · #**335** Posted **Jul 8, 2014, 7:51 PM**

That's something I have a hard time with. In the paper today it said most of the Assinniboine dikes are 100 years old. Well what the fuck?! Upgrade the dikes already. It's not rocket science. It seems every time there's a flood, it's a huge panic. Just upgrade the dikes in non flood years so there is nothing to do when the flood comes. Instead of calling in the military everytime. Why are they constantly working on the Portage Diversion? Upgrade the damn dikes prior to! I seen a lot of money flying around out there on the news last night... Wait for the cancellation of the PTH 59N/101 interchange due to flooding expenses...

Riverman · #**336** Posted **Jul 8, 2014, 7:55 PM**

This government has not and never will put any actual money into infrastructure. They will announce projects but never start them. They did however hire 8000 new civil servants this year though.

rrskylar · #**337** Posted **Jul 9, 2014, 4:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

That's something I have a hard time with. In the paper today it said most of the Assinniboine dikes are 100 years old. Well what the fuck?! Upgrade the dikes already. It's not rocket science. It seems every time there's a flood, it's a huge panic. Just upgrade the dikes in non flood years so there is nothing to do when the flood comes. Instead of calling in the military everytime. Why are they constantly working on the Portage Diversion? Upgrade the damn dikes prior to! I seen a lot of money flying around out there on the news last night... Wait for the cancellation of the PTH 59N/101 interchange due to flooding expenses...

Wouldn't allowing the river to flow into flood plains where development never should have been allowed make more sense than constantly have to worry about securing and raising dikes. Low land in Brandon was bought up years ago but then later development was allowed on that land, pure stupidity. With the increased amount of drainage the province and municipalities allowed to take place over the past twenty years raising dikes will never keep up with the amount of water allowed to flow into our major rivers, consistently high water on the Red and Assiniboine is the result.

bomberjet · #**338** Posted **Jul 9, 2014, 2:31 PM**

^You're completely right. But by that methodology, most of southern Manitoba should be abandoned. Especially Winnipeg. Maybe they need to designate flood plains, such as the area south of Hoop and Holler. Build permanent waste gates and let the river flood the land.

Bluenote · #**339** Posted **Jul 10, 2014, 4:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

^You're completely right. But by that methodology, most of southern Manitoba should be abandoned. Especially Winnipeg. Maybe they need to designate flood plains, such as the area south of Hoop and Holler. Build permanent waste gates and let the river flood the land.

Abandon Winnipeg. The only city that did build a flood prevention system that works lol.

Maybe abandon Calgary also. They have nothing for flood protection. May as well add Regina and Brandon.

Point is we have drained all the pot holes and creeks for farming. Let nature come back and the floods would be much smaller if any.

Building up the PD all the time isn't the answer either. We cannot keep dumping water into the lake. Your idea of buying up land though is a good idea. Same thing we did in Winnipeg and south of it. It's basically barren now of homes.

bomberjet · #**340** Posted **Jul 10, 2014, 12:37 PM**

I see my point made it through. There's no point in saying "you shouldn't live on a flood plain" as most of the southern part of the province is a flood plain. It's part of life around here and as you've outlined, living by rivers in general.