NEW YORK | 270 Park Ave | 1,389 FT | 57 FLOORS - Page 45

BXFrank · #**881** Posted **Mar 14, 2019, 7:07 PM**

Hey guys I’m new to this forum, I been following these threads since 2008 but just decided to join. Anyways I hope this tower gets to kinda look like the Ping An Financial Center with the golden braces ��

Busy Bee · #**882** Posted **Mar 14, 2019, 7:36 PM**

Welcome welcome. Don't feel awkward, I lurked religiously for 8 years before joining!

Crawford · #**883** Posted **Mar 15, 2019, 3:33 AM**

That screenshot looks promising. Fingers crossed this is the taller version.

A 1,500-1,600 ft. Foster-designed landmark tower would be amazing.

NYguy · #**884** Posted **Mar 15, 2019, 3:51 AM**

Yeah, it has some shades of some of his earlier designs that I like, the Russia Tower for example, with the folded columns. If he could give us a great crown, I'd be happy.

http://www.worldofarchi.com/2012/08/...in-europe.html

BXFrank · #**885** Posted **Mar 15, 2019, 5:20 AM**

Thanks for the welcome, I will be contributing with skyline pictures from up here in the Bronx and Uptown areas with my cell phone, later I’ll upgrade to a camera. Hopefully we’ll see this future behemoth peeking from here

toddguy · #**886** Posted **Mar 15, 2019, 11:45 AM**

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Originally Posted by NYguy

Yeah, it has some shades of some of his earlier designs that I like, the Russia Tower for example, with the folded columns. If he could give us a great crown, I'd be happy.

http://www.worldofarchi.com/2012/08/...in-europe.html

I like the structural expressionism and what appear to be related to diagrids-now if he just follows through with bringing them back together at the top to make an interesting crown.

NYguy · #**887** Posted **Mar 15, 2019, 2:46 PM**

The 50 minute city planning hearing for 270 Park begins in this video at around the 3:34 mark...

• Video Link

JMKeynes · #**888** Posted **Mar 15, 2019, 3:23 PM**

It says video disabled when I try to play it. Did they show the whole tower on the video or just the base?

NYguy · #**889** Posted **Mar 15, 2019, 3:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by JMKeynes

It says video disabled when I try to play it. Did they show the whole tower on the video or just the base?

They disabled playback on other sites, you have to click on the link at the bottom. It's the hearing from a couple of days ago.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kvffalPQ-Qk

gramsjdg · #**890** Posted **Mar 15, 2019, 3:39 PM**

Just the base- starts around 3:30

JMKeynes · #**891** Posted **Mar 15, 2019, 3:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by NYguy

They disabled playback on other sites, you have to click on the link at the bottom. It's the hearing from a couple of days ago.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kvffalPQ-Qk

Thanks

JMKeynes · #**892** Posted **Mar 15, 2019, 3:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by gramsjdg

Just the base- starts around 3:30

Thanks!

patriotizzy · #**893** Posted **Mar 15, 2019, 4:00 PM**

Also a big fan of warm metals. Can't wait to see what the overall design is. I hope it's not a box all the way through, and we get some nice tapering with some golden ratios going on here.

JMKeynes · #**894** Posted **Mar 15, 2019, 4:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by patriotizzy

Also a big fan of warm metals. Can't wait to see what the overall design is. I hope it's not a box all the way through, and we get some nice tapering with some golden ratios going on here.

It's definitely not a box that simple rises upward from a rectangular base. The schematics show that there are several setbacks on the north and south sides. It would be nice if there also are setbacks on the east and west sides, as it rises.

NYguy · #**895** Posted **Mar 15, 2019, 4:54 PM**

Looking at some of the graphics and listening to the testimony of a tower being "lifted up", I'm convinced that the building cantilevers to a degree on all sides. You can even see the lobby elevation from the Park Avenue entrance as it progresses inside the building in the first graphic...

It also looks as if the building is set back 42 ft from the street on north and south sides of the site...

The design at the lower office levels isn't recessed that far from the street...

Another option could be that those are just the setback levels, but that's what I'm getting from what we've seen so far.

gramsjdg · #**896** Posted **Mar 15, 2019, 6:22 PM**

From watching the video, it sounds and looks like the proposed building footprint is smaller than originally planned (pulled back from the street more and staggered), even taking the cantilever into account. I can see this easily hitting 500 meters -and that is not including the crown- if they are still aiming for the same square footage.
Keeping my fingers crossed for both a new tallest and a great design...

Footprint looks a bit like the Philip Johnson's IDS tower.

chris08876 · #**897** Posted **Mar 15, 2019, 7:30 PM**

Let's hope. With the current space planned or projected, any sort of alteration to the ratio will result in a nice boost. Tapering could be of benefit. Let's hope for a crown!

Crawford · #**898** Posted **Mar 15, 2019, 7:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by gramsjdg

I can see this easily hitting 500 meters -and that is not including the crown- if they are still aiming for the same square footage.
Keeping my fingers crossed for both a new tallest and a great design...

This is my hope too. All I know is the base footprint has shrunk while the overall size is the same, meaning the building has likely grown taller. A truly dominant Foster tower would be epic for Midtown East.

Also, has anyone noticed how many upcoming towers are planned for the east side of Madison in the 40's? I count six major development sites, and all can access Grand Central air rights. Two are u/c or about to be (One Vanderbilt and 270 Park), and there are four additional sites (335 Madison, the former MTA HQ, the Biltmore hotel and now the 415 Madison block). The Bank of China site on the west side of Madison is another assemblage.

I wouldn't be surprised if Madison emerges as the most impressive vertical stretch of urban RE on the planet, besting even Billionaires Row.

BXFrank · #**899** Posted **Mar 16, 2019, 5:49 AM**

Sorry fellas, finally learned how to post pics here. From my vantage point up in the Bronx and Uptown this tower will be another 1,400ft filler amongst billionaire row towers and Vanderbilt. New York needs a Megatall, my pics from my cellphone:

https://flic.kr/p/24zAjdc

https://flic.kr/p/2fc6ZAR

https://flic.kr/p/24zAjmt

NYguy · #**900** Posted **Mar 16, 2019, 6:57 AM**

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Originally Posted by BXFrank

Sorry fellas, finally learned how to post pics here. From my vantage point up in the Bronx and Uptown this tower will be another 1,400ft filler amongst billionaire row towers and Vanderbilt. New York needs a Megatall, my pics from my cellphone:

https://flic.kr/p/24zAjdc

https://flic.kr/p/2fc6ZAR

https://flic.kr/p/24zAjmt

This view in particular, you can already see One Vanderbilt rising. Chase will be in that view...

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Originally Posted by Crawford

Also, has anyone noticed how many upcoming towers are planned for the east side of Madison in the 40's?

I wouldn't be surprised if Madison emerges as the most impressive vertical stretch of urban RE on the planet, besting even Billionaires Row.

Madison Avenue has some great potential for new development. Below are some of the projected development sites in Midtown East...