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Old Posted Oct 1, 2012, 3:57 AM
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^^ yes that would make a lot more sense
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I think it would make more sense to have the screens located centrally.

I'm all for an adaptive re-use!
Indoor water park/amusement park.
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I wonder if some crazy idea like turning the saddledome into condos could work.
or the coolest shaped movie theatre ever with 2 screens at each high end.
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I think it would make more sense to have the screens located centrally.

I'm all for an adaptive re-use!
I think that the condo idea is a good one and it worked for Highbury in London England BUT I don't think the shell is the right shape.

That being said, a very unique idea might be what Ryerson University has done with Maple Leaf Gardens. I think that it is VERY unique and keeps the lasting legacy of the building.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...article609425/

This shows a cross section of the building usage:

Credit: Blogto.com

A grocery store might not fit into the whole Stampede Park deal. But it could be some very useful space.
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^^ yes that would make a lot more sense
Previous discussions had highlighted the Biodome in Vancouver as an interesting re-use of an arena-type structure. In that case it was previously a velodrome from the '76 Olympics.

Calgary does not have an aquarium, and a hockey arena already has ample water. Could be cool. Plenty large enough for polarbears too. Maybe the balance of the arctic stuff the zoo has stalled on because of no money. Interestingly, the little down windows on the saddledome already look like some type of marine portals.

Any sure, some water slides on the other side for the "polar bear swim" types.
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Previous discussions had highlighted the Biodome in Vancouver as an interesting re-use of an arena-type structure. In that case it was previously a velodrome from the '76 Olympics.

Calgary does not have an aquarium, and a hockey arena already has ample water. Could be cool. Plenty large enough for polarbears too. Maybe the balance of the arctic stuff the zoo has stalled on because of no money. Interestingly, the little down windows on the saddledome already look like some type of marine portals.

Any sure, some water slides on the other side for the "polar bear swim" types.
Shared waterslides and pool for polar bears and humans. And plenty of seating for watching.
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I figure Flames ownership would want those team playing in their new arena since they own those teams as well.
Then what about the Vancouver Giants in Pacific Coliseum, the Canucks' old arena? And it was just about time I heard the Flames franchise owns the Roughnecks.
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Then what about the Vancouver Giants in Pacific Coliseum, the Canucks' old arena? And it was just about time I heard the Flames franchise owns the Roughnecks.
The Canucks don't own that team don't they? I know the city owns that venue though.

Also Flames building a new arena would mean there are two arenas of exact purposes within the same area. There's no need for that and would be a waste to maintain the Saddledome in it's current form when the alternate is next door.
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Interesting renderings for the new stadium in Quebec.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6W-7Oif-7M

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It's a lot more subtle than the Edmonton proposal but looks decent.
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Itll probably work in our favour to have QC and Edmonton build (or start) their barns first.
Although, I imagine Efmonton's will no longer be so ooh & ahh inspiring, given the current situation.
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Edmonton arena is virtually dead:

http://metronews.ca/news/edmonton/40...ut-daryl-katz/
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Katz played his ante, this was the City's. They are ceasing negotiations with the current deal. Not necessarily a bad thing, for each side wants a new deal.
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Good news. Maybe this will turn the tables on pro sports owners pillaging government. The Oilers won't move because there are too many other teams looking to move.
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Katz played his ante, this was the City's. They are ceasing negotiations with the current deal. Not necessarily a bad thing, for each side wants a new deal.
The next offer from the City should be $0, and Katz will take it. NHL teams are not a scarce resource.
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New arenas really need to incorporate an entertainment element. Staples Center in LA is a perfect example, replace surrounding surface lots with bars, restaurants and evening entertainment facilities. This encourages people to come down, have dinner and hang out before an event. LA does have an ideal climate for 'mingling around', but Calgary could have indoor elements.

I like how the Quebec arena integrated a winter element to this by including an outdoor rink. Having a few small rinks for people to play shinny would be cool, Include outdoor screens for people to come down, play hockey and watch the game would be great!
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Looking at this across the street from the Staples Center

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=stapl...16.07,,0,-0.55

Makes me think that not only could entertainment be incorporated with an Arena, but maybe it could be an opportunity for Calgary to create it's own Dundas or Times Square.
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New arenas really need to incorporate an entertainment element. Staples Center in LA is a perfect example, replace surrounding surface lots with bars, restaurants and evening entertainment facilities. This encourages people to come down, have dinner and hang out before an event. LA does have an ideal climate for 'mingling around', but Calgary could have indoor elements.
They're starting to kind of do this with the Cowboys Casino. It would be great if the new arena was attached to that so you could walk around with your drink from the arena to the casino to the bars and Restaurants
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Looking at this across the street from the Staples Center

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=stapl...16.07,,0,-0.55

Makes me think that not only could entertainment be incorporated with an Arena, but maybe it could be an opportunity for Calgary to create it's own Dundas or Times Square.
Don't forget it is also a convention centre complex and the Nokia sign is for the Nokia Theatre. I've been advocating the Staples Centre model for years (and our convention centre needs to look at the South Hall in their complex).
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Don't forget it is also a convention centre complex and the Nokia sign is for the Nokia Theatre. I've been advocating the Staples Centre model for years (and our convention centre needs to look at the South Hall in their complex).
It's a great place for a conference - I was there a couple of years ago and stayed at the JW Marriott, rode the elevator to get to the convention facilities, and walked out the door to select from a dozen or so fantastic restaurants. Plus, took in a Lakers and a Kings game across the street. If it were possible to "start over" with the entire downtown arena and convention centre possibility, the LA Live/Staples Center area is a good starting point.
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