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Old Posted Aug 19, 2019, 2:41 PM
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What two cities do you find most similar in nearly every respect?

This is not intended to be a city vs. city, but rather a discussion of finding pairs of cities that share a ton in common such as:

- Layout
- Architecturally
- Climatically
- Aesthetically
- Population size

So I'll start! I'll admit, I haven't been to Calgary and haven't spent a ton of time in Denver, but having been on these forums for 18 years I've seen a ton of threads on them. I find that they have a near identical landscape/climate (with Calgary certainly getting much colder of course), very similar skyline, population, and I hear culturally they're pretty aligned (libertarian-friendly population).


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Old Posted Aug 19, 2019, 3:20 PM
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Tampa & Phoenix are water/desert analogs of each other.

Also the main cities in North Carolina have a suburban DC county analog:
Charlotte::Fairfax
Raleigh::Montgomery
Greensboro:: Prince George's
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Sacramento and Richmond. They are both mid-size state capitals. They are both 2 - 2 1/2 hours from larger metropolitan areas and both about two hours from appealing geographic amenities (beaches with Richmond, Napa wine country and the Sierras with Sacramento). They also both have rivers through the respective cities.
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Old Posted Aug 19, 2019, 3:39 PM
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I can see that.
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This isn't following your exact design for this thread(sorry) but I've always thought Boston was a smaller version of London...Americanized.

Within America, I feel like Austin and Columbus have a lot in common.
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Old Posted Aug 19, 2019, 4:43 PM
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This isn't following your exact design for this thread(sorry) but I've always thought Boston was a smaller version of London...Americanized.

Within America, I feel like Austin and Columbus have a lot in common.
Austin and Nashville seems to be a popular comparison as well.

A few others:
Birmingham - Pittsburgh (forested hills and steel/industrial heritage)

Tulsa - Omaha (river cities with downtown on one side of the city and the majority of the suburban growth on the opposite side)

Oklahoma City - Fort Worth (sprawling plains cities with a central walkable and rapidly redeveloping downtown core)
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Tampa & Phoenix are water/desert analogs of each other.

Also the main cities in North Carolina have a suburban DC county analog:
Charlotte::Fairfax
Raleigh::Montgomery
Greensboro:: Prince George's
Tampa : Phoenix? What exactly do you mean?

The Piedmont cities from North Georgia to the outskirts of D.C. do seem very similar in look and feel - similar climate as well.

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How about Sedona, Ariz : Santa Fe, New Mex?
Both are full of artists, tourists, some granola types. Somewhat similar climates, both cities are at elevation and very close to high alpine terrain. Both cities are fairly close to their states' primary city [ABQ, PHX].
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Calgary --- Denver
Chicago --- Toronto
Los Angeles --- Mexico City

Just to name a few
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I've always found Chicago - Toronto a somewhat lazy comparison just based on being two large cities on a lake. In terms of urban layout, transportation, and architecture I find them pretty distinct. Apart from certain areas of the financial cores which could be reasonably interchanged (even then the rivers give Chicago a different feel), I don't think there are many places you could drop a person who was decently familiar with the two and they wouldn't be able to quickly discern which city it was.
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I've always found Chicago - Toronto a somewhat lazy comparison just based on being two large cities on a lake.
Agreed, though I find almost all these comparisons kinda lazy/uninformed. Chicago and Toronto don't look/feel very similar.

I think it's more "well they're both big Great Lakes cities with big skylines".
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So it's okay for you to say this:

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Chicago and Toronto don't look/feel very similar.
But when I say the same with regards to New York City and Philadelphia, you go off the edge.
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So it's okay for you to say this:



But when I say the same with regards to New York City and Philadelphia, you go off the edge.
That's because NYC and Philly differ immensely in many ways, not the least of which being shear size
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But when I say the same with regards to New York City and Philadelphia, you go off the edge.
NYC and Philly are far more similar than Chicago and Toronto.

Chicago and Toronto developed during different eras. They're in different countries, obviously, 10 hours apart. Chicago was (arguably) the third or fourth most important city on earth when Toronto was basically a poor man's Buffalo. In contrast, NYC and Philly are neighbors that developed concurrently.
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It's even worse (and much more of a stretch) when people on here act like Miami is just like Chicago...
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South Bay and Orange County are exactly the same. Sunnyvale is basically an Indian-American dominated version of Irvine.
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South Bay and Orange County are exactly the same. Sunnyvale is basically an Indian-American dominated version of Irvine.
OC is a lot whiter, beachier and more conservative, and the ethnic mix is somewhat different. And obviously the repsective economic bases are totally different.
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South Bay and Orange County are exactly the same. Sunnyvale is basically an Indian-American dominated version of Irvine.
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OC is a lot whiter, beachier and more conservative, and the ethnic mix is somewhat different. And obviously the respective economic bases are totally different.
Depends where in the OC. There's a big difference between North/Central OC and South/Coastal OC. North OC is much more ethnically diverse. Likewise, the Santa Clara County has large white and more conservative populations too. I don't know the exact numbers and how it compares to the OC, but they're there in places like Los Gatos, Saratoga, Los Altos, and Palo Alto. Santa Clara County was mostly Republican until 1988, and the OC has just recently become Democratic in 2018.

The South Bay and OC are also similar in that they have large immigrant Vietnamese populations. And while the OC is more dense, they're both still very sprawly and suburban environments, with lots of freeways. Income is probably where the greatest disparity is seen, as the median household income in Santa Clara County is $111,069 vs $81,851 in the OC. Interestingly, you wouldn't be able to tell though as the OC appears just as, if not more affluent visually.

Vietnamese population as of 2016:
San Jose - 106,992
Milpitas - 11,165
Total - 118,157
Santa Clara County Total - 125,695 (7.1%)

Garden Grove - 52,894
Westminster - 36,689
Santa Ana - 24,702
Anaheim - 17,896
Fountain Valley - 11,561
Total - 143,742
Orange County Total - 183,766 (6.1%)
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Depends where in the OC. There's a big difference between North/Central OC and South/Coastal OC. North OC is much more ethnically diverse. Likewise, the Santa Clara County has large white and more conservative populations too. I don't know the exact numbers and how it compares to the OC, but they're there in places like Los Gatos, Saratoga, Los Altos, and Palo Alto. Santa Clara County was mostly Republican until 1988, and the OC has just recently become Democratic in 2018.
Those areas are quite white in the South Bay but the Bay Area is one of the most liberal regions in the country. Cities like Palo Alto vote around 3/4 Democrat in national elections and those surrounding cities are not too far off.
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This.

Also add Chattanooga as a little brother to those two.

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