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Old Posted Oct 7, 2019, 5:13 PM
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Asian American demographics by city

What are the leading Asian groups in various US cities? And is the community overwhelmingly professional or does it include a sizeable working class Asian population as well.

Just to clarify will stick to the US Census definition of East and South Asians.
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2019, 5:14 PM
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College degrees (Asian Americans) for selected MSAs:

Atlanta 56.2%
Boston 62.2%
Chicago 65.1%
Detroit 64.6%
Houston 57.4%
Los Angeles 53.1%
New York 53.1%
Philadelphia 57.3%
San Francisco 54.1%
Seattle 54%
Washington 65%
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College degrees (Asian Americans) for selected MSAs:

Atlanta 56.2%
Boston 62.2%
Chicago 65.1%
Detroit 64.6%
Houston 57.4%
Los Angeles 53.1%
New York 53.1%
Philadelphia 57.3%
San Francisco 54.1%
Seattle 54%
Washington 65%
I wonder what cities would have the lowest % stats? I'm guessing Sacramento (history of working class Asian Americans, including farm workers), Honolulu (or in Hawaii more broadly, many descendants of Asian labor migrants). Or possibly Las Vegas (large service/entertainment industry)?
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Or Minneapolis where the Asian population is mostly Hmong.
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I don't know about now but when I moved to the Twin Cities in the late '80s Ramsey County (St Paul) had the highest unemployment rate and poverty rate for Asians among urban counties in the US. Refugees generally have a different economic arc than immigrants and take longer to establish themselves. This was especially an issue for the Hmong who were living a very primitive rural lifestyle before they got sucked into the wars in southeast Asia and ended up in the US. They came here completely unprepared to live in an urban, developed country.

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Or Minneapolis where the Asian population is mostly Hmong.
The Hmong are the largest Asian ethnicity in the Twin Cities but they are only a little more than half of the Asian population. They probably get the most press because there aren't a lot of Hmong in the rest of the country. There are also a fair number of Vietnamese, Cambodian, Lao and Chinese in the Twin Cities.

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Or Minneapolis where the Asian population is mostly Hmong.
The Minni climate must take some getting used to for people coming from tropical climates.
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The Minni climate must take some getting used to for people coming from tropical climates.
I'm sure people adjust. If you go to really big ethnically diverse big cities like Chicago, NYC, or Toronto (yes, I know all three are less cold than Minni), you'll see no one batting an eye at black or brown people dressed in their winter scarves and boots headed off the work on a chilly winter morning, or assuming that someone can handle less cold because of where their ancestors came from.

In fact, even towns and cities in Arctic Canada (though tiny in number) is getting some (really small, but present) amount of immigrants from places like the Philippines and India, as Canada attempts to get more people to settle the north and spread around immigrants so they don't centralize into only big crowded cities.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north...lism-1.1260176
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^^really surprised by Philly, a city I don't know much about demographically.

What's going on in Detroit and Chicago?
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^^really surprised by Philly, a city I don't know much about demographically.

What's going on in Detroit and Chicago?
The auto industry in Detroit, and for a long time. It requires quite a bit of engineering to make modern automobiles.

As for the make-up of the metro population, the largest group by far is South Asians (1.8% of the total metro population), then followed distantly by "other" Asian (0.7%) and then Chinese (0.6%), Filippino (0.4%), Korean (0.3%), Japenese (0.2%), and Vietnamese (0.2%).
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The auto industry in Detroit, and for a long time. It requires quite a bit of engineering to make modern automobiles.

As for the make-up of the metro population, the largest group by far is South Asians (1.8% of the total metro population), then followed distantly by "other" Asian (0.7%) and then Chinese (0.6%), Filippino (0.4%), Korean (0.3%), Japenese (0.2%), and Vietnamese (0.2%).
That makes sense, Houston has the same thing going except for the O&G industry.
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Top Asian group by metro:

Atlanta Indian 102,000 1.8%
Boston Chinese 133,000 2.8%
Chicago Indian 205,000 2.2%
Dallas Indian 140,000 2%
Detroit Indian 71,000 1.7%
Honolulu Filipino 148,000 15%
Houston Indian 124,000 1.9%
Los Angeles Chinese 507.000 3.8%
New York Chinese 740,000 3.7%
Philadelphia Indian 109,000 1.8%
Sacramento Chinese 61,000 2.7%
San Diego Filipino 158,000 4.8%
San Francisco Chinese 462,000 10.1%
San Jose Chinese 166,000 8.5%
Seattle Chinese 97,000 2.6%
Washington Indian 151,000 2.5%

#2 Asian group:

Atlanta Korean 45,000 0.8%
Boston Indian 76,000 1.6%
Chicago Filipino 112,000 1.2%
Dallas Vietnamese 84,000 1.2%
Detroit Chinese 24,000 0.6%
Honolulu Japanese 146,000 14.8%
Houston Vietnamese 115,000 1.8%
Los Angeles Filipino 417,000 3.2%
New York Indian 620,000 3.2%
Philadelphia Chinese 80,000 1.3%
Sacramento Filipino 57,000 2.5%
San Diego Chinese 58,000 1.7%
San Francisco Filipino 250,000 5.5%
San Jose Indian 156,000 8%
Seattle Indian 79,000 2.2%
Washington Chinese 103,000 1.7%

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Top Asian group by metro:

Atlanta Indian 102,000 1.8%
Boston Chinese 133,000 2.8%
Chicago Indian 205,000 2.2%
Dallas Indian 140,000 2%
Detroit Indian 71,000 1.7%
Honolulu Filipino 148,000 15%
Houston Indian 124,000 1.9%
Los Angeles Chinese 507.000 3.8%
New York Chinese 740,000 3.7%
Philadelphia Indian 109,000 1.8%
Sacramento Chinese 61,000 2.7%
San Diego Filipino 158,000 4.8%
San Francisco Chinese 462,000 10.1%
San Jose Chinese 166,000 8.5%
Seattle Chinese 97,000 2.6%
Washington Indian 151,000 2.5%

#2 Asian group:

Atlanta Korean 45,000 0.8%
Boston Indian 76,000 1.6%
Chicago Filipino 112,000 1.2%
Dallas Vietnamese 84,000 1.2%
Detroit Chinese 24,000 0.6%
Honolulu Japanese 146,000 14.8%
Houston Vietnamese 115,000 1.8%
Los Angeles Filipino 417,000 3.2%
New York Indian 620,000 3.2%
Philadelphia Chinese 80,000 1.3%
Sacramento Filipino 57,000 2.5%
San Diego Chinese 58,000 1.7%
San Francisco Filipino 167,000 3.7%
San Jose Indian 156,000 8%
Seattle Indian 79,000 2.2%
Washington Chinese 103,000 1.7%
The fastest growing Asian groups in many U.S. cities are Filipino and Indian. Filipinos are #1 in San Diego, probably because SD is a Navy town (lots of Filipinos served on navy ships).
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Top Asian group by metro:

Atlanta Indian 102,000 1.8%
Boston Chinese 133,000 2.8%
Chicago Indian 205,000 2.2%
Dallas Indian 140,000 2%
Detroit Indian 71,000 1.7%
Honolulu Filipino 148,000 15%
Houston Indian 124,000 1.9%
Los Angeles Chinese 507.000 3.8%
New York Chinese 740,000 3.7%
Philadelphia Indian 109,000 1.8%
Sacramento Chinese 61,000 2.7%
San Diego Filipino 158,000 4.8%
San Francisco Chinese 462,000 10.1%
San Jose Chinese 166,000 8.5%
Seattle Chinese 97,000 2.6%
Washington Indian 151,000 2.5%

#2 Asian group:

Atlanta Korean 45,000 0.8%
Boston Indian 76,000 1.6%
Chicago Filipino 112,000 1.2%
Dallas Vietnamese 84,000 1.2%
Detroit Chinese 24,000 0.6%
Honolulu Japanese 146,000 14.8%
Houston Vietnamese 115,000 1.8%
Los Angeles Filipino 417,000 3.2%
New York Indian 620,000 3.2%
Philadelphia Chinese 80,000 1.3%
Sacramento Filipino 57,000 2.5%
San Diego Chinese 58,000 1.7%
San Francisco Filipino 250,000 5.5%
San Jose Indian 156,000 8%
Seattle Indian 79,000 2.2%
Washington Chinese 103,000 1.7%
Looks like the Bay Area and Honolulu are far and away the outliers in terms of percentage, with the top 2 Asian groups making up 15% and 30% of the overall metro, respectively. LA, NYC, and SD are next at 7%. The others all hover around 3%.
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Top Asian group by metro:

Atlanta Indian 102,000 1.8%
Boston Chinese 133,000 2.8%
Chicago Indian 205,000 2.2%
Dallas Indian 140,000 2%
Detroit Indian 71,000 1.7%
Honolulu Filipino 148,000 15%
Houston Indian 124,000 1.9%
Los Angeles Chinese 507.000 3.8%
New York Chinese 740,000 3.7%
Philadelphia Indian 109,000 1.8%
Sacramento Chinese 61,000 2.7%
San Diego Filipino 158,000 4.8%
San Francisco Chinese 462,000 10.1%
San Jose Chinese 166,000 8.5%
Seattle Chinese 97,000 2.6%
Washington Indian 151,000 2.5%

#2 Asian group:

Atlanta Korean 45,000 0.8%
Boston Indian 76,000 1.6%
Chicago Filipino 112,000 1.2%
Dallas Vietnamese 84,000 1.2%
Detroit Chinese 24,000 0.6%
Honolulu Japanese 146,000 14.8%
Houston Vietnamese 115,000 1.8%
Los Angeles Filipino 417,000 3.2%
New York Indian 620,000 3.2%
Philadelphia Chinese 80,000 1.3%
Sacramento Filipino 57,000 2.5%
San Diego Chinese 58,000 1.7%
San Francisco Filipino 250,000 5.5%
San Jose Indian 156,000 8%
Seattle Indian 79,000 2.2%
Washington Chinese 103,000 1.7%
Interesting list. Would there be any way to show the numbers of the top two Asian groups in the IE? San Jose and SF should be looked at together, and same with LA and the IE. When you combine SJ and SF, their Chinese population exceeds LA's, but I'm curious what happens when the IE is added in for LA. I don't perceive the IE as having a large Asian presence, but it's hard to say. LA's Chinese community is on the eastern side of the MSA, so it's plausible that some of them have moved even further east and are now part of the IE metro area.
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How is social mobility like now among the US-born and later-born generations of the Indochinese refugees now?

I'm guessing the foreign-born share isn't increasing given the duration of time since the end of the Vietnam war has passed and the native-born share is making up a large proportion?

I'm guessing there are a lot of 20-30 year olds now who would be college aged or later, born and raised in the Minneapolis area now.

The Somali community is a bit more recent, isn't it? How are they faring -- are they also gradually getting settled in and coming to, along with the Hmong, become very established in the area? Ilhan Omar seem well-liked and respected locally as a homegrown politician.
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Fun trivia: Long Beach has the highest number of Cambodian Americans in the country. Number two? Lowell, Mass. 13% of the city is Cambodian. Lowell and a few bordering towns have about 30,000 Cambodians and people of mixed-Cambodian background. All from the late 70s wave of refugees. Long Beach, Lowell, and Seattle are the three American cities with Cambodian US Consular Offices.
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More specifically, Tacoma. Cambodians seem to have a tendency to live in blue collar satellite cities.
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More specifically, Tacoma. Cambodians seem to have a tendency to live in blue collar satellite cities.
Do working class minorities (Asians or otherwise) have a tendency to live in blue collar satellite cities in newer growth metros?

Like are there analogues to the working class parts of Mississauga, Surrey and Brampton among Asian Americans?
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Do working class minorities (Asians or otherwise) have a tendency to live in blue collar satellite cities in newer growth metros?

Like are there analogues to the working class parts of Mississauga, Surrey and Brampton among Asian Americans?
Long Beach and Tacoma are more akin to Oshawa or Hamilton not Mississauga.
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More specifically, Tacoma. Cambodians seem to have a tendency to live in blue collar satellite cities.
Also Cambodian immigrants are major operators of independent donut shops. Probably #1 operators in U.S. of independent donut shops. Indians are big owners of independent motels and 7-11 type stores. Initially, first and second generation immigrants tend to specialize. Later generations then move into other professions as they assimilate.

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