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Old Posted May 2, 2008, 9:29 PM
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Old Posted May 2, 2008, 9:35 PM
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what the heck is this???
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Old Posted May 2, 2008, 9:42 PM
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So there was another Letter to the Editor from someone concerning a lack of sidewalks in Flamborough--obviously this means everyone who lives and has ever lived in Flamborough thinks this way, right? By this measure I should assume each Letter from a member of the public in the "old" City is representative of the entire populous--yourselves included, correct? Secondly, this second "go to heck" Letter was actually published by The Spec--the strictly biased, narrow-focused newspaper that caters to suburban homebuilders?

This is a discussion forum--and what's occuring here is garden variety bashing and rhetoric...based in part by an unverifiable tax assessment for a town that doesn't exist anymore and hasn't for several years. Did Flamborough self-finance prior to amalgamation? Of course not--hence Regional government. Flamborough financed it's own Town budget--took care of the roads and streets that were it's responsibility while the Region took care of it's infrastructure and the MTO took care of what little remains of its.

This thread doesn't seek solutions--but gives people a chance to vent their biases.
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what the heck is this???
Owner got a re-assessment and as a result property tax has been cut almost in half compared to 2006.
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So there was another Letter to the Editor from someone concerning a lack of sidewalks in Flamborough--obviously this means everyone who lives and has ever lived in Flamborough thinks this way, right? By this measure I should assume each Letter from a member of the public in the "old" City is representative of the entire populous--yourselves included, correct? Secondly, this second "go to heck" Letter was actually published by The Spec--the strictly biased, narrow-focused newspaper that caters to suburban homebuilders?

This is a discussion forum--and what's occuring here is garden variety bashing and rhetoric...based in part by an unverifiable tax assessment for a town that doesn't exist anymore and hasn't for several years. Did Flamborough self-finance prior to amalgamation? Of course not--hence Regional government. Flamborough financed it's own Town budget--took care of the roads and streets that were it's responsibility while the Region took care of it's infrastructure and the MTO took care of what little remains of its.

This thread doesn't seek solutions--but gives people a chance to vent their biases.

I've offered great solutions in this thread for folks in Flambasterdas - 'go to heck'.
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Old Posted May 2, 2008, 10:47 PM
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What problem is this thread supposed to find a solution for? The problem of Flamborough residents complaining about taxes?

The solution to that is for everyone to suck it up and share the weight. We all pay taxes.

To complain about taxes going up means you'd better also complain about your property value going up too... that's the main point. You can't have it both ways.
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Old Posted May 3, 2008, 12:37 AM
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If your collective goal is just to get me to 'give up'--you deserve at least a kudos for pushing me closer than you ever have before. One day a good discussion gets going about the reasons this entire Forum was founded, about positivity, about mature discussion--and the end result is a Forum that amounts to a bunch of people bitching about the suburbs.
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Old Posted May 10, 2008, 12:53 AM
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maccarthy should be fired or censured from city hall.
what a joke. calling in the police. inciting verbal abuse. if she wants to trade tax forms with me I'd be happy to.
Or perhaps she'd like the meth clinic, 2 shelters, new shelter under construction, multiple afforable transitional housing complexes, halfway house and homeless people in the park in my neighbourhood instead?
fire the clown.
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^ that summarizes why downtown Hamilton cannot attract investment. Over one hundred years of "war on poverty". No one there has figured out that if you keep giving they keep taking. There are other municipalities out there that can start picking up some of this slack.
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^ that summarizes why downtown Hamilton cannot attract investment. Over one hundred years of "war on poverty". No one there has figured out that if you keep giving they keep taking. There are other municipalities out there that can start picking up some of this slack.

ha! good luck getting any of those municipalities on board.
They want low taxes and a free ride, but no responsibility or societal 'ills'.
So we get them all, plus the highest taxes to take care of everyone in flamborough from folks with the flu to violent criminals.
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Old Posted May 10, 2008, 6:00 AM
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Owner got a re-assessment and as a result property tax has been cut almost in half compared to 2006.
Not quite.....

The 2008 number is for 6 months only. As the taxes are based on MVA, this is completely untrue steeltown
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Terry Whitehead absolutely hit the nail on the head in today's Spec.
Very nice.
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Old Posted May 16, 2008, 12:54 AM
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Terry Whitehead absolutely hit the nail on the head in today's Spec.
Very nice.
My prediction; Expect a flood of Letters to the Editor from Flamborough residents in the coming days.
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Old Posted May 16, 2008, 2:38 AM
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yup...and even though all of them will contain blatant lies and false information they'll still get published because big media doesn't care about truth or facts...they care about selling papers.
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Old Posted May 16, 2008, 12:22 PM
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Indeed, good on Terry for laying out the facts. A house on the West Mountain valued $20K less then a house in Flam still pays more in taxes.....? and Flambasterds complain about paying too much, and ACTUALLY BELIEVE they pay more. Why? Because it's the psychology of Mass Empathy. They tell each other it's true so it must be. Plus The Spec is afraid to tell the truth to them too.... they might cancel their subscriptions.
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and their councillor is a bloody liar.
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Old Posted May 18, 2008, 12:16 AM
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Mass empathy is an interesting suggestion--it may indeed be true--among those opposing tax increases in Flamborough--and those of you in the City trying to justify said increases.
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Old Posted May 18, 2008, 5:48 AM
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Oh well vinyl windows, two car garages, cal de sacs, and 100 foot asphalt driveways are the means to the good life.

They are worth the increase in taxes. Long live Flambaroh and bring on the taxes.
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Old Posted May 18, 2008, 6:00 PM
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Those of us in the city don't need to justify anything - the numbers have been laid out in the cold clear light of day, fastcarsfreedom. Flamborios have not been carrying their share of the load. Unfortunately, at this point, not even a forensic audit by an accounting firm of Flamborians choosing would satisfy the mass denial up there.
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Old Posted May 20, 2008, 7:45 PM
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Welcome to the Board Leif.

Well said, if they can't let the facts speak then there is no discussion to be had.
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