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Old Posted Oct 4, 2018, 8:58 AM
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Great cities on the MacKenzie River

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Be it resolved that the planet will grow ever warmer with desertification of temperate regions and thawing of tundra.

Does Canada, then, have North America's third great navigable river (after the Mississippi and the Saint Lawrence) in the MacKenzie?

And might large cities sprout and occur along its banks heading up to a great port in the vicinity of Kittigazuit?

Harrison Island as the new Montreal...
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Old Posted Oct 4, 2018, 11:30 AM
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Iff al the ice melts tgen a large chunk of land in the MacKenzie River basin will be under water, I also think it will be too cold to sprout up any new large cities. Perhaps a few farming towns in the south and a couple small cities but nothing major.
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Old Posted Oct 4, 2018, 12:31 PM
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If it gets warm enough that people want to put cities on the Mackenzie River, it's all over but the screaming for humanity elsewhere.

I'm not seeing the economic reason either. There has to be something that holds a community to a place - farming, mining, manufacturing, whatever. I'm no expert on the Mackenzie river region, but I don't think there's much up there that will support a major city.

Finally, the Canadian North is one of the last unspoiled regions of this planet. Instead of aspiring to spread like locusts to colonize it, maybe we should just let it be unspoiled.
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Happy Valley-Goose Bay will become the new Anchorage .

I don't think the North along that river will ever be all that densely populated. I think a settlement pattern and size similar to NL is the best you could get along there.
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Happy Valley-Goose Bay will become the new Anchorage .

I don't think the North along that river will ever be all that densely populated. I think a settlement pattern and size similar to NL is the best you could get along there.
If Alaska were in Canada, how big would Anchorage be?
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About 25,000
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If Alaska were in Canada, how big would Anchorage be?
Probably a couple hundred people at most.
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I worked for a few months in Fort Simpson/Wrigley and it seems like it's always meant to be a bigger place. If more infrastructure was extended to it (railways, better paved roads, fibreoptic lines, etc) growth will happen...
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Actually, I wonder how much the lack of large, navigable rivers on the North American continent played a role in the slower advancement of pre-Columbian civilizations in North America.

There are some large rivers that travel quite far inland from the sea, like the Columbia and the Fraser, but they usually have formidable rapids or waterfalls that prevent easy shipment unless a civilization reaches a stage of advancement where they understand how to build a system of locks. It makes sense that the St. Lawrence would have been the site for the first permanent European settlement north of Latin America, and that the Lachine Rapids would have been the point at which those settlers would have elected to give up trying to move inland any further (hence the 150 year history gap west of Montreal and the language border, etc.).

I'm not a determinist when it comes to physical geography dictating civilizational advancement, but it does help a lot. On that front, our hulking land mass of a continent, with few navigable rivers or convenient peninsulas or inlets kind of got screwed.
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Based on the weather this year, I'd say that while the tundra may thaw the weather would still be very lousy and not really conducive to people wanting to live there and as wave46 said, if we get to that point climate-wise I think a large proportion of the Earth's human population is dead.

Given the crazy storms that would probably be going on, a major city on Harrison Island stands a good chance of being Canada's New Orleans.
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Speculation time...

Be it resolved that the planet will grow ever warmer with desertification of temperate regions and thawing of tundra.

Does Canada, then, have North America's third great navigable river (after the Mississippi and the Saint Lawrence) in the MacKenzie?

And might large cities sprout and occur along its banks heading up to a great port in the vicinity of Kittigazuit?

Harrison Island as the new Montreal...

wow get out of my head, I was looking at the MacKenzie on Google Earth yesterday thinking the same thing. I think the town of Tsiigehtchic would be a good option. I'm not sure how deep the river is at that point but if a proper road was built it would only be about 2.5 hrs south of the Arctic Ocean. It's also on a very picturesque spot of the MacKenzie. Much nicer then Inuvik imo.

[IMG]Mackenzie Delta/Canada 2011 by Jorien Vonk - Arctic field photos, on Flickr[/IMG]
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The lack of daylight in winter may be a deterrent for some even if the climate did warm up significantly. Summer would be awesome, warm temps and constant daylight.
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The lack of daylight in winter may be a deterrent for some even if the climate did warm up significantly. Summer would be awesome, warm temps and constant daylight.
You probably would see quite a lot of part-time residents who become snowbirds. Though to what extent that would change with a warming climate is out there.

If the winter temperatures of the biggest Canadian cities (which aside from Winnipeg and the Albertan cities, aren't even all that much colder than northern US cities like Chicago, Minneapolis or Seattle) make a significant number of people take long vacations, how big would the snowbird population be in this world?
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If it's just lack of Sun for a month I'm sure they could create mock sunlight to help out the population. They could mimic the sunlight hours of a city south of them in their same time zone.

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You probably would see quite a lot of part-time residents who become snowbirds. Though to what extent that would change with a warming climate is out there.

If the winter temperatures of the biggest Canadian cities (which aside from Winnipeg and the Albertan cities, aren't even all that much colder than northern US cities like Chicago, Minneapolis or Seattle) make a significant number of people take long vacations, how big would the snowbird population be in this world?
Not to nitpick, but Calgary actually has winter highs about 5 degrees warmer than Montreal, Minneapolis, Ottawa, and Quebec. Its still cold, however...
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The lack of daylight in winter may be a deterrent for some even if the climate did warm up significantly. Summer would be awesome, warm temps and constant daylight.
The Norwegians seem to have adapted.
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The lack of daylight in winter may be a deterrent for some even if the climate did warm up significantly. Summer would be awesome, warm temps and constant daylight.
and bugs, the bugs are awful up north
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