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Old Posted Jan 31, 2013, 6:01 AM
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And yet the old lot attendant's booth still survives, sitting there, waiting, eerily, spookily, mysteriously...
     
     
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The parking Garage that 500n lsd has is looking great for garage standards ...This is the type of glass that should of been used for the Standalone Eco Garage in River north next Amli!
     
     
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Some of the worst buildings in Chicago are all along this part of LSD. From the spire hole up to about 680, it's just a letdown.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2013, 7:11 PM
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The parking Garage that 500n lsd has is looking great for garage standards ...This is the type of glass that should of been used for the Standalone Eco Garage in River north next Amli!
I agree. The glass on the garage is pretty nice.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 1, 2013, 5:30 AM
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I agree. The glass on the garage is pretty nice.
i mean, yeah sure... nice glass that's fine... i just don't get what is so attractive about it. it doesn't match the tower, looks out of place, seems poorly integrated to the tower and just kind of sloppy imo... idk, let's see when it's all done, i guess.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2013, 5:26 PM
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2013, 8:23 PM
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^ Yeah, saw it the other day; frankly the garage looks great, and better than the tower IMO.
     
     
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I Totally Agree with you, except that I was to shy to say it, with all the judgment out there!
It is because people that actually know a little bit about quality glass (not necessarily saying me) have recognized the cheapness of the glass. Wobbly glasss actually ruins the crisp international look they were going for.

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Old Posted Feb 4, 2013, 2:23 PM
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I think Chicago is the kind of market that developers are able to cut back on glass costs, yet still maintain the million dollar views of the insides they are actually trying to sell or rent; simply because the market does not expect it as they would in NYC or other international cities. Developers could care less what a bunch of skyscraper nerds think about "reflective-ness" of their glass when it comes to the ultimate reason for building these buildings. Architecture firms provide renderings with the most ideal look to present to the client to sell their idea. Material costs and decisions about glass quality, I imagine, would then be determined by the developer.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2013, 3:09 PM
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I think Chicago is the kind of market that developers are able to cut back on glass costs, yet still maintain the million dollar views of the insides they are actually trying to sell or rent; simply because the market does not expect it as they would in NYC or other international cities. Developers could care less what a bunch of skyscraper nerds think about "reflective-ness" of their glass when it comes to the ultimate reason for building these buildings. Architecture firms provide renderings with the most ideal look to present to the client to sell their idea. Material costs and decisions about glass quality, I imagine, would then be determined by the developer.
Agree. And I did say this in the other thread, but it's nearly impossible to avoid this affect as designed. It's really a design problem vs a product selection problem. You have huge expanses of reflective surfaces and it's going to reveal problems. if you are building a tower in an area that's surrounded by no taller buildings, you can pull off a design like this with minimal distortion as the glass will simply reflect the sky as opposed to neighboring buildings with strong lines and disciplined geometry. If anyone here has ever specified glass for a project, it's not like it's much of an option. You can opt for a less reflective color which helps, but the biggest concerns are insulating, heating coefficients, etc. A thicker glass can lend more flatness, but then you are increasing weight and cost substantially.

Best to use standard mullion caps or something more impressive that projects outward or has an interesting profile if the money is there. Distractive elements sometimes make the bad reflections less apparent.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2013, 3:19 PM
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I do like the reflective shimmery, impressionistic effect of the glass in harry's 1st pic above^.
Grant it, it's the result of the wavy, rippled, wobbly glass.
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Was at dose market last weekend and was able to see this building up close. The garage looks really cool, interesting frosted glass, but the building itself looks quite bland and the extremely wavy glass is ugly, imo.
     
     
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The glass only looks wavy when there is a nearby building reflected in it. I've never seen a building that doesn't reflect other buildings in this way. I remember years ago when Trump was first getting it's glass and people started freaking out about how cheap and wavy the glass looked and wrote off the entire project. Over time as it got taller and reflected more sky people were increasingly impressed. Look at this building from certain angles when it reflects only sky and it's just as good as Optima and Coast. Look at Optima and Coast at certain angles and see other buildings reflected in them and SHOCKER, the glass looks wavy. Those two buildings just benefit from more open space around them.
     
     
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I agree I saw Optima today and the glass was just as wavy if not worse. There's nothing there to break up the vast expanse of glass and lots of close buildings to reflect off of it.
     
     
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A bit blurry, but you get the gist.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2013, 2:44 AM
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You can see it to the left of the frame:


Urban Highs by Christopher.F Photography, on Flickr

It looks a hell of a lot better than the Coast and that AMLI building u/c, IMO...
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2013, 2:58 AM
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Yea, this one will work.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2013, 12:45 PM
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I think this building turned out well. It looks gorgeous in Chitowncity's pic above.

I would go so far as to say it is just as nice as the Hovey project, if not even slightly better
     
     
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