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Old Posted Mar 30, 2008, 5:18 PM
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I'm really looking forward to returning to Keesler AFB for nearly a year of school, leaving Jacksonville. It was in such shambles when I first was there from FEB to MAY of 2006, I actually teared up a bit. It'll be nice to relax with my boys on the beach again. How does the water look now btw? Is it still Mississippi River mud brown?
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Here is my solution to saving some of the large proposed condo projects on West Beach Boulevard. The developers should partner with international hotel chains. This would provide Biloxi with first-class non-gaming resorts to support the expansion of the convention center, thus creating a tier-one destination. The condo towers would be reconfigured to offer traditional hotel rooms, suites and condo units while remaining true to their original designs. The condos could be utilized as condo-tels and leased on short or long term basis. The partnerships would be as follows: Shores of Paradise as a Marriott Resort; Pelican Plantation as a Hilton Resort; Revelay as a Hyatt Resort and a Wyndham Resort at the former Biloxi Beach Inn site just west of Beau View Towers.


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I agree that would be an awesome solution. I will first be surprised if Wyndham actually builds in the harbor, but I find it unlikely that those chains would build in Biloxi. We are not the destination yet. Now in five years, if three or four new casinos open, including the Marg.Ville and possibly something big on the Broadwater property, than sure. There will have to be even more convention space though than is already under construction and many many more non-gaming options for entertainment.
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2008, 5:43 PM
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Biloxi just needs to make this their motto: " Biloxi, All the fun of Las Vegas, plus a beach!"
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I will first be surprised if Wyndham actually builds in the harbor, but I find it unlikely that those chains would build in Biloxi. We are not the destination yet. Now in five years, if three or four new casinos open, including the Marg.Ville and possibly something big on the Broadwater property, than sure. There will have to be even more convention space though than is already under construction and many many more non-gaming options for entertainment.

I disagree with you. The numbers are consistently astounding wall street. These companies see the big picture (forecast). They will help the coast in obtaining the tier-one status that the coast is destine to reach. The coast is a well sought after convention location. The research has already been done. It is estimated that the coast will need approximately 1 million sf of convention space, including hotels and casino resorts in order to become a tier-one destination. Those international hotel chains are coming in to support the 400,000sf of meetng space that the convention center will offer when the current expansion is complete in 2009. Bill Holmes, the director of the Coast Coliseum and Convention Center has stated in the media that the commission is actively seeking funding to finance a future expansion within the next three to five years. That is the main reason why they are seeking to relocate the coliseum. They are already planning for another expansion to include an onsite hotel which was recently approved by the state legislature. I have addressed some of this in my recent posts. You will start to see more non-gaming entertainment return to surpass what was previously offered. Biloxi officials reported in the media this week, that they now have more rental units (apartments) on hand than they did prior to Katrina. And construction is still ongoing, not to mention the surrounding areas. North of the bay and I-10, constuction is full steam ahead on dozens of new housing subdivisions. The housing issue is being addressed. The industry (housing) realize that the casino, government and other jobs that are slated to come, will not if there isn't adequate housing to meet the needs. To many people, the coast is a very desireable place to live. Our schools are above the nations average with a number of them rating as level 5's (highest), Biloxi being among them. There's a variety of new technical jobs from Stennis Space Center, the industrial seaway, Keesler, Jackson County (Pascagoula/Moss Point) and the recent Eads-Northrop Grumman defense deal in Mobile to replace the Airforce aging tanker fleets. In recent years, the auto industry have taken notice of what Mississippi has to offer, opening a Nissan manufacturing plant in Madison and now a Toyota plant is under construction in Tupelo. Rumor has it that a third auto plant maybe coming to one of the six coastal counties. Predictions have the Mississippi Gulf Coast's population at more than 1 million within the next fifteen years. That's why these companies are coming. Analysists say that the economy in Mississippi and the Central Gulf Region will continue to be fueled by the billions of dollars that is circulating to rebuild the local infrastructure and new developments. With the settlements of insurance claims and federal grants, people here in general have more exposable income. Case in point, Dillard's reopened its Edgewater Mall store the weekend of March 1st for the first time since Katrina, along with new company stores in Houston, Tx; Macon, Ga and a fourth location. The Edgewater mall store exceeded the sales of the other three combined for the first week. If the economy is thriving here while it is slumping in most of the nation, what do you think will happen? Not to mention the fact that although we have seen a cost in living, it is still relatively lower than moast places. Now as the population inches closer to that predicted 1 million and our infrastructure begin to feel the strain, expect for that to change.

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I really believe the MS Gulf Coast is poised to become one of America's Top 10 destinantions in the coming years. Katrina was actually a mixed blessing. It gave a large, clean slate for the cities to work with, especially Biloxi, now that the infamous "Strip" is gone. The Beau Rivage is currently the crown jewel, but I think within the next 5 years, it'll be dethroned big time. Expect to see some heavy hitting hotel chains to appear. Four Seasons wants a larger Gulf of Mexico coast presence, with Panama City Beach and Biloxi high on their radar. Eventually, New Orleans, G-B, and Mobile Metro areas could merge into a single, large metropolitan center, and it will probably happen before 2030 at current rates.
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Biloxi just needs to make this their motto: " Biloxi, All the fun of Las Vegas, plus a beach!"

Plus a beach and three hundred years of rich cultural history. Mild (He-he) temperatures, awesome deep sea fishing, golfing, museums, food and shopping (more on the way... two Targets, Kohls, Marshalls, Macy,s ect....).


Regarding the water, unfortunately it will always be murky. If you want clear/emerald water with waves, you'll have to take a trip twelve miles out to one of the numerous barrier islands that help to create the Mississippi Sound. The mouth of the Mississippi River is due-south of Biloxi and the currents carry its contents inland. The barrier islands block the waves causing the silt to become trapped in the calm sound. It doesn't mean that the water is dirty or contaminated. There are plenty areas where the clear blue and emerald waters have a higher content and sometimes unsafe bacteria than our murky waters. One of the major benefits of murky water is that it has a higher amount of nutrients, thus becoming home to a variety of marine animals which is the reason why Mississippi is known for having the largest amount of Atlantic Bottle Nose Dolphins, its great deep sea fishing and once the seafood capital of the world, prior to the casinos buying up most of the cannery properties.
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I disagree with you. . . . .
I don't disagree with you, but even in your synopsis you put three to five years. It will be three to five years until these chains become VERY interested in the Coast. Wyndham is not the key, its hotels like Marriot, Sheraton, Loews, Omni, Intercontinental, or Westin that really signal growth. I don't disagree with you that the Coast is a great place to go. I just feel you are unrealistic with your expectations, at least for the time being. Now as I said, five years down the road with continued growth, then it would be a no brainier.
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What the coast needs more of are those little action, adventure parks. Those you see with the bumper carts, go carts, a few water riders, bungy jumping things, and other little rides. A massive amusement park would be nice, but getting those smaller scale adventure parks like we had before katrina would be a nice addition.
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Thumbs up Margaritaville Casino and Resort

I was checking out the webcam today and noticed there are two large cranes on site, which is awesome. I also noticed they have started on the backside where the restaurant is supposedly going to be located. Obviously they are lifting the resort off the ground some, but I wonder what the space underneath will be used for. It looks too small for parking.

I just cannot wait till it gets its own website.
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I was checking out the webcam today and noticed there are two large cranes on site, which is awesome. I also noticed they have started on the backside where the restaurant is supposedly going to be located. Obviously they are lifting the resort off the ground some, but I wonder what the space underneath will be used for. It looks too small for parking.

I just cannot wait till it gets its own website.

The space underneath will be utilized for parking. It is higher than what it appears from the camera image. In this Thursday's planning commission meeting, Harrah's is requesting the approval of two very large temporary signs to be placed along the south side of US 90 for the duration of the construction phase. They are to stand forty feet high. Hopefully, these two signs will give a virtual interpretation of what the project will look like. I also agree that it is time for Margaritaville to have its own website.

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Thumbs up Hotel proposed at Biloxi Small Craft Harbor

By MARY PEREZ
SUN HERALD

BILOXI --A local developer wants to build a Wyndham Harbor Pointe Resort at the Biloxi Small Craft Harbor with a McElroy's Harbor House Restaurant on the lowest floor.

Kyle Gagne, senior director of franchise for Wyndham Hotel Group, told the city council at a special meeting this morning that the resort would include 400 hotel rooms, a spa and fitness center, meeting space and high-end retail shops. Besides McElroy's, there would be and a three-meal hotel restaurant with room service.

"This is it. This location has to be the one," Gagne told the council, and said the company's timeshare division is also very interested in bringing a resort to Biloxi.

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BILOXI (WLOX) -- Biloxi may have found the non-gaming anchor that it needs to reinvigorate its waterfront. Wyndham Hotels presented a plan to the Biloxi City Council that would bring the world's largest hotelier to the small craft harbor.

Wyndham Hotels spent about a year looking for a site in Biloxi to build a four star resort. At the same time, Mickey McElroy was looking for a developer to take over a condo project that longer seemed viable. When the developer and the leaseholder met, they realized they had an opportunity to do something special in downtown Biloxi.

McElroy's Seafood Restaurant was always considered a special part of Biloxi's harbor area. But like so many other businesses, it got washed away by Hurricane Katrina.

Now, developers of the Wyndham Harbor Pointe Resort want to turn the McElroy's site into a 400 room hotel on Biloxi's waterfront. Wayne Hengen is McElroy's attorney. "It's bigger and better for everybody in the city of Biloxi, for the whole south Mississippi area for that matter. It's the Wyndham for goodness sakes," he told the Biloxi City Council.

Supporters of the Wyndham project showed council members a rendering of the 24 story resort that could be built in downtown Biloxi. Wyndham's representative at the council's special meeting was Kyle Gagne. "We love the project," Gagne said.

So does Mickey McElroy. The hot dog vendor turned seafood restaurant owner currently controls the lease at the small craft harbor site. "I'm just tickled to death that we got this far with it," he said. "I think it will be an asset to the community. I think Wyndham is first class. I wouldn't have entertained it had it not been a first class operation."

McElroy's original plan was to put a condo tower on the small craft harbor site he leases from Biloxi. But when the condo market weakened, McElroy turned to the Wyndham group. It considered the waterfront area next to Hard Rock Biloxi, and just down the street from Beau Rivage, an A plus location for a hotel.

Hengen sees the upside as well. "Having this available for casinos to spill over on and tourists to come to, it's going to be a win-win for everybody," he said.

Traffic is always a development concern. In this case, Mickey McElroy said traffic was a bonus. "The traffic is going to be phenomenal," he thought. "And right now, you know what we need on the coast, we need traffic."

If it's approved, the hotel would have 400 rooms. And the top couple of floors could be sold as condo units.

Biloxi city council members have asked the mayor to begin negotiations with Wyndham, to see if a lease can be ironed out. If Wyndham signs a lease, attorneys say financing to build the small craft harbor hotel could be secured in six to 12 months.


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Rezoning approved for South Beach Casino project; next step is Gaming Commission

BILOXI --The Biloxi City Council today voted 5-2 to approve rezoning for the RW Development South Beach Casino Resort.

The move allows developers to ask the Gaming Commission whether the property at U.S. 90 and Veterans Avenue is a legal casino site.

The council also voted unanimously to allow Mayor A.J. Holloway to begin negotiations with Wyndham Harbour Pointe Resort and Mickey McElroy for a hotel and restaurant at the small craft harbor.

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I hope a rendering of the new propossed Wyndham tower is up soon. I believe that 24 stories is a little bit high because I think hard Rock is going to be much shorter than this hotel, but if the building looks good the height shouldn't matter.

With RW getting aproval from the council and mayor it looks like it falls to the gaming commision to decide.
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Ah there is a rendering on the video posted on WLOX.com and it doesn't look to bad.
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So many buildings were destroyed in the Hurricane. its nice to hear that they are rebuildings some of those buildings..
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I hope a rendering of the new propossed Wyndham tower is up soon. I believe that 24 stories is a little bit high because I think hard Rock is going to be much shorter than this hotel, but if the building looks good the height shouldn't matter.

With RW getting aproval from the council and mayor it looks like it falls to the gaming commision to decide.

I emailed a couple of people at The SunHerald to voice my disappointment for not enclosing photos with today's online article of the proposed Wyndham Harbour Pointe Resort. A photo is in today's hardcopy issue. I received a returned email apologizing, stating that it was an error and that they would try to get it uploaded sometime today.


I was able to attend both council meetings yesterday and the presentation of the hotel development by Kyle Gagne, senior director of financing and managed sales for Wyndham Hotel Group was quite impressive. The developers and all parties involve were there in a full united force to stress their serious commitment to this project. It is very unusual for the city to here a first proposal and immediately enter negotiations for a lease; such a thing would typically take one to two months. Also there were virtually only one person to speak in oposition of the Gold Coast Casino Resort in a standing room only council chamber. A stark contrast to the voting on the Tivoli Resort.


The architect firm for Harbour Pointe is Dean and Dean Associates of Jackson. They also have had an office in downtown Biloxi since Katrina.


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Well write them again, i need a picture for the thread!
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Hey BLX,

Check the first post and make sure everything is updated correctly. Also please let me know anything I am missing.. Thanks!


Also: Five cranes now on site at margarittaville, Can't WAIT! Any news on Isle being redone blx?
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Five tower cranes? If so, good lord. This area will have a new tree so to speak, the tower crane over the next few years.
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Now that RW is approved by the city it is up to the gaming commission. Any predictions? Why? I am unfamiliar with this part of the process. If the city wants it, why would the gaming commission deny it? I think the general consensus is that people in Biloxi either want the project or don't care. I was at the city council meeting for both RW and Tivoli and the feelings of opposition were night and day. I believe the RW site does more for the city than the Tivoli deal. Sure Tivoli would have generated a lot of tax revenue, but the RW site does the same plus open a whole new corridor (Veterans Ave.) for the city, which will generate even more revenue. It seems that if this casino/resort can get approved that Biloxi could have a true lifestyle community there where you could have everything you need within walking distance between the beach and Pass Rd. Let me know what you think.
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