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Originally Posted by deasine
Source: London Evening Standard
The road improvements weren't the main deter really... because they were minor projects (mainly to improve roads for buses). Yes, there's a drop of cars initially, but slowly grows back.
I would like to remind you that London actually has decent transportation entering/exiting and within the congestion charge zone. It's not fair to toll people when the other options aren't up to par. When the London Congestion Charge was implemented, there was a further improvement to other alternatives to driving to be able to take people onto those systems.
To me, Oak Street bridge could be a bridge to toll because the Canada Line is essentially serving for that purpose. Am I against of a toll into downtown? Depending on how its implemented because our city centre transit is excellent (though it can be better). Am I against of tolling a new bridge? No, because it's new infrastructure.
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Thanks for the link:
juste a couple of note:
when road system is near capacity, even minor roadwork can have significant effect on congestion: today on Main at kingsway it was minor someroad work still generating some relatively considerable traffic jams along Main up to 16th, and we were on saturday...
Also:
just from
http://www.jstor.org/pss/30033688 I quote an average speed of 8.6mph in central London in 2002. the newspaper talk about
average speed to go to work of 9.9mph before 2003. Not sure what it's means...
to be sure, the various non-capped exemption and lack of flexibility in pricing of the toll, end fatally to meet some congestion at some point, but bottom line they have to go back 7 years ago to meet figure like it:
in 7 years, prices have increased by 50%, but congestion charge has stay at the same level I think, so become relatively cheaper.
regarding quality of transit infrastructure, everything is relative:
London could be depicted as offering very poor public transit and insanely expensive (in addition to offering the most dangerous rail system of Europe if not western world) by most continental European...
Vancouver transit system let most of the american cities in the dust when come public transit (New York and Chicago are possibly the only exceptions).