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Old Posted Dec 14, 2014, 12:50 AM
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Maybe it should be 309m and 51 stories. That seems to be the general trend of residential buildings; wishful thinking!
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It happens that DOB data is wrong. This is most likely over 600 feet.
Obviously that entry in the DOB application is wrong.

Even a building with low ceiling heights could not have 51 floors and be less than 600 ft. these days.
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51 stories and 306 ft only?
That will more than likely be amended. Sometimes the heights stated on the permit filings are just to get the precess started (while other transactions will need to take place). Look at the filings for 30 HY and 3 Hudson Blvd. With this particular tower, I'm not sure what the case is, but just know that it wouldn't be 306 ft, or anything close to it.
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Just for shiggles, I'm more than a bit puzzled as to how or even why such evidently inaccurate figures/extrapolations could skirt the notice of more than one person in the loop....
I mean...not one person yelled "stop the presses" (as it were) and asked even rhetorically how one could possibly fit so many floors into so many feet?
IMO Lackadaisical proofreading of one's data, most especially as something as simple and pithy to research to begin with as this, is a rather piss-poor defense against the excuse that a simple error was made.
Rant over....

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I think someone got lysdexic and transposed 603ft as 306ft. Small error in that case.
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Just for shiggles, I'm more than a bit puzzled as to how or even why such evidently inaccurate figures/extrapolations could skirt the notice of more than one person in the loop....
Read my post above, there are often times when the filing is not actually what is ultimately intended, though in other cases it's not always as obvious. Ultimately though, it will be modified. Initial permits are sometimes just to get the process started.



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30 Hudson Yards

Building Height (ft.): 680
Building Stories: 68


55 Hudson Yards

Building Height (ft.): 364
Building Stories: 17
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Thanks NYGuy, that clarifies a lot!
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You guys are obviously wrong. This building is obviously targeting hobbits as their main tenant.
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Has one of Lower Manhattan’s most exciting new real estate projects been called off?

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It appears one of the most significant new real estate developments slated for downtown Manahattan may be still very much up in the air.

Developer Pink Stone Capital has put a large development site at 111 Washington St. near the World Trade Center site back on the market, just eight months after it filed plans to build a massive 51-story tower with 429 apartments and gleaming retail space there, the Daily News has learned.

Listing broker Bob Knakal of Cushman & Wakefield didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment on the offering but sources said the site, which can support a massive development of up to 340,500 square feet, could go for as much as $300 million.

If it sells for that price, it would be one of the most expensive land sales ever in Lower Manhattan.

It wasn’t clear if Pink Stone had entirely scrapped its own plans for the site, which called for a tower designed by Gary Handel.

A spokesperson for the company did not immediately return a request for comment.

But a sale would represent a serious windfall for the developer, which took control of the site for significantly less in 2011, after the previously owner defaulted on his mortgage payments. The company paid a comparatively paltry $57.5 million at the time, records show.
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Why even bother building something if you could walk off tomorrow with $240 million in profits?

The up side (for us) is that a $300 million land purchase means we will likely see something nice happen here, eventually.
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Great news.

I was always wondering why they were planning a generic rental tower in a neighborhood more fit for superluxury condos.

Hopefully the new developers will build something very tall and skinny, which will be much more in tune with the neighborhood. A supertall condo would fit perfectly.
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The higher this sells for the better since it will force the buyer to go big in order to recoup losses.
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That's one hell of a return (and then some) for Pink Stone. I wonder who's willing to step in now.
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That's one hell of a return (and then some) for Pink Stone. I wonder who's willing to step in now.
Slim "Barnett" Shady and his posse, SHoP?

Well, that would be nice because a super-tall is presumed.

If Peter Poon or Kaufman design this site in the future, then all is lost.

Lets hope a good architect group get chosen, and a developer with a fetish for height gets in.
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When was this tower one of Lower Manhattans most exciting real estate projects anyway? Snooze.
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Slim "Barnett" Shady and his posse, SHoP?

Well, that would be nice because a super-tall is presumed.

If Peter Poon or Kaufman design this site in the future, then all is lost.

Lets hope a good architect group get chosen, and a developer with a fetish for height gets in.
l seriously doubt that whoever spends 300 million will hire those hacks.
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^ Looks like the same conceptual rendering from when the site went on sale. I wouldn't count on that being built exactly. But it will most likely be a similar box.



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Do we have any height info about this project? Should be in the 600 - 700ft range.
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Old Posted Dec 18, 2015, 4:03 PM
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Do we have any height info about this project? Should be in the 600 - 700ft range.
Yes. Our good contributer RW took the effort to dig up the permit.

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