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Old Posted Jul 13, 2013, 10:30 AM
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There appears to be a fair amount of rebar shown in this picture. I wonder if it is intended to be used for the crane(s) base?
I think that rebar is for the tie-backs into the rock.
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2013, 2:47 AM
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[QUOTE=Duff;6194357]Here are some pictures I took with my cell phone this morning.
All those tiebacks on the ground in the first photo would suggest to me they still have a way to go.
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Old Posted Jul 19, 2013, 6:28 PM
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New (?) rendering on the Nova Centre website:


Source | Ultra high-res version

The news release goes on to mention that Ramia is attempting to get permission to move forward with construction on the foundation and underground elements while the HbD site plan approval process is still ongoing. He says the current target is "to have this building up and running in late 2015".
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Old Posted Jul 19, 2013, 7:08 PM
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Well holy shit. This must be the prettiest thing I've seen all day!

The tower that initially seemed to resemble the sail of a boat appears to have been given sharper contours, like a blade. The blue glass will be powerful, if the end result is blue.
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Old Posted Jul 19, 2013, 7:47 PM
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Wow - impressive. Although I think Ramia is being a little presumptuous about moving forward. I would think in all fairness to the process, the City would likely say no. It's almost as if it were a fait-a-comp-lie.
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Old Posted Jul 19, 2013, 8:16 PM
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I think it makes sense to let them begin construction but the city doesn't exactly have a great track record when it cones to handling unusual development cases.

The design is great. I love how it encloses the street but has relatively tall, open looking lower floors. I also like how they've broken up the massing of the tower component.
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Old Posted Jul 19, 2013, 8:55 PM
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I stand totally corrected based upon this report going forward to Council on Tuesday. They are asking the Province to intervene using their Provincial Planning powers to facilitate a steady continuation of construction...very interesting.

Reminds me of what happened with the Saddledome here in Calgary. We use a predominantly discretionary system; which means many developments are subject to appeal - the Saddledome was one. The adjacent community association appealed the original approval to the Subdivision and Development Appeal Board and successfully won - thus overturning the approval. Leave to appeal in the Court of Appeal was sought, but they couldn't get it so the decision was final.

They came back and re-applied trying to alter the proposal to deal with many concerns, but the particularly community adjacent to the site (at the time and to a certain extent still today) did not want it - so they were preparing to appeal. But the City was able to get the Province to intervene. So literally the day that the community appealed was the same day an order in council at the Province was signed, making the Saddledome exempt from the Land Use Bylaw and planning legislation. So the SDAB didn't bother to hear the item because they had no jurisdiction - and now we have a Saddledome lol.
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Old Posted Jul 19, 2013, 9:31 PM
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The new design looks great.

It is too bad that going with a better design will result in extensions to the approvals process (the original design could have been approved through HRM_by_Design).

The developer has agreed to accept the full financial risk of proceeding without permits (i.e. possible demolition of sections to be built), so HRM and the province have little to lose by proceeding with the interim planning agreement.
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Old Posted Jul 20, 2013, 1:45 AM
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It is too bad that going with a better design will result in extensions to the approvals process (the original design could have been approved through HRM_by_Design).
Ultimately it comes down to what the province is willing to do but there is a good case to be made that this project is exceptional since it has a public component and since the developer put so much effort into the public consultation process. This isn't a story where the developer is ramming a proposal through; if he had wanted to do that he wouldn't have delayed it to get more feedback.

I don't know many specifics about the Saddledome but with a major project like that it is pretty usual that there will be a sizeable contingent of people opposed to its construction even on the best site available, and even if it ends up being good for their property values and so on. Clearly we can't cancel everything or build everything out in the boonies because some people are not happy.
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I really like the new design and hope building starts as soon as possible. Please, please, please, don't let anything delay this any further! I want to see more pictures as well.
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According to CTV News, excavation is almost done and Ramia hopes to start pouring concrete for footings within the next few weeks, with tower cranes to go up shortly after that. I suppose this will depend on the outcome of Tuesday's Council meeting. Exciting Times!

http://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/developer...sign-1.1375024

I wish the 'signature' tower could have been 18 stories instead of 16, but other than that I'm happy with the design. The way the tower juts out as it gets higher is a cool feature. I guess it's reminiscent of a ship, and it points out the harbour to the ocean.

Also, I assume not all the towers will be built at once so we will see more focus on their designs in the future.
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There was an article in the Chronicle Herald. Many of the usual naysayers are leaving their negative opinions - http://thechronicleherald.ca/busines...or-nova-centre
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I think it looks great.
Love the wedge.. inside looks like it will be nice and bright with high ceilings. Love the blue.

Build it already!
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Old Posted Jul 23, 2013, 5:46 PM
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Wow the detailed renderings look great. My only concern is the art screens and the digital lighting components. The city will need to get specifics on those - because if the art screens are digital; they will create light and that needs to be controlled (particularly given the hotel just up the hill). We have similar rules for that out here in Calgary (most digital screens when in proximity to residential have to turn off at night). I'd also suggest that maximum lighting levels be set - don't want the area to be like daylight at night.

Other than that - I'm very interested to see the convention centre design, shame that it's just shown as 'pending approval' - but that's okay. I thought there was another level of parking though? I seem to recall 3 levels talked about - I guess not!
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Old Posted Jul 23, 2013, 6:04 PM
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Wow the detailed renderings look great. My only concern is the art screens and the digital lighting components. The city will need to get specifics on those - because if the art screens are digital; they will create light and that needs to be controlled (particularly given the hotel just up the hill). We have similar rules for that out here in Calgary (most digital screens when in proximity to residential have to turn off at night). I'd also suggest that maximum lighting levels be set - don't want the area to be like daylight at night.

Other than that - I'm very interested to see the convention centre design, shame that it's just shown as 'pending approval' - but that's okay. I thought there was another level of parking though? I seem to recall 3 levels talked about - I guess not!
lol, There's no way we have that type of lighting regulation here. Have you ever seen the digital sign on the metro centre at night? It lights the apartments across the street up like a christmas tree. The casino used to have a sign that was pretty much just as bad.
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Nova Centre developer granted building permit exemption

CBC News Posted: Jul 23, 2013 7:09 PM AT Last Updated: Jul 23, 2013 7:07 PM AT
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-s...exemption.html
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Finally cbc is using the what was new rendering. How long before they finally get the latest? Next year perhaps?
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Old Posted Jul 24, 2013, 1:15 AM
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The vote today was to request permission from the province. According to the CBC story the province will now give the go ahead - On Tuesday city council voted almost unanimously to turn to the provincial cabinet. The province will now allow Ramia to start building.

I hope the CBC story is right - that the province will now give the go-ahead (which will be contingent on later meeting the building code requirements). Did anyone watch the HRM Council proceedings? Was it stated in Council that the province will give the go-ahead?
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Old Posted Jul 24, 2013, 2:11 AM
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I'm relieved by the reduced wait, frankly. This project seems to have had quite enough hurdles; time to get on with it. This development has been created within set guidelines they clearly understand, as their previous building design was approved.

The developer should be commended for taking the public consultations so seriously as to have numerous modifications. Yes: this means yet another design approval, but this shouldn't mean that construction should have to be halted in the meantime.

It would be stupid for the developer to spend all of this money, have consultations, change the design several times, excavate two city blocks, build the underground parking -- just to be rejected for what he wants to build aboveground.

This is great! I hope the developer's ambitions remain the same for getting all three of those towers up.
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