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Old Posted Mar 15, 2011, 3:35 AM
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yea the torre de cristal does resemble 1WTC a lot from that angle.. and it looks awesome, except the WTC will be way taller (1370 feet vs 820 ft) even without the spire.
     
     
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I do like the FT, but I'll always miss that "Venetian" facade the old towers shared - shades of this:
Yeah, the SOM 1WTC is clean and futuristic, but the Yamasaki towers were that unique, quirky, semi organic/partially zen/structurally expressive/monumental combination that no building of that era quite matched. A quick look would deem them banal, but it was anything but that. Ill conceived? Sure. Oversized? Definitely. Just not uncreative.

Anyone thinking that the new buildings won't be overwhelming is in for a surprise. This World Trade Center is bigger and denser than the last one. The guiding hand of a master planner given way to five huge buildings struggling to be noticed in a sea of glass and a crowd of people. It is, in a way, the antithesis of the original plan, but will serve to fulfill essentially the same program.



New Tower 1368 to parapet. Old Tower: 1362 to Parapet, 1368'7 to roof peak, which rounds out to the tower actually being 1,369 feet tall. Interesting.
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2011, 6:00 AM
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Reflecting the old in the facade of the new. That's art.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2011, 6:51 AM
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That's seems pretty eerie to me. Like a ghost in the back of a photo.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2011, 8:28 AM
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Is it less weird with 3 buildings in frame?


Not sure what's going on in the lower left corner of 1WTC, but it's a test shot, so quality settings are lower. so whatever.
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2011, 10:15 AM
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incredible to see 3 giants standing next to each other the willis tower the former wtc north tower and the new one world trade center you can clearly see that the north tower was taller than the sout tower because you see that one floor is taller than the other floors in the tower
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2011, 12:08 PM
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a bit old, but still a great shot:

Tony Shi.


view bigger: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyshi...n/photostream/
     
     
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Is it less weird with 3 buildings in frame?


Not sure what's going on in the lower left corner of 1WTC, but it's a test shot, so quality settings are lower. so whatever.
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Not sure what's going on in the lower left corner of 1WTC, but it's a test shot, so quality settings are lower. so whatever.
There's also a hard-to-see sliver of that same affect on the lower right corner of the tower, on the side facing New WTC1 .

But still INCREDIBLE!
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2011, 3:57 PM
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Thanks for the renderings STR. You're work has brought a unique vision to this thread. It's good to see the Sears Tower stacked up shoulder to shoulder with the old & new WTC.
     
     
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Anyone thinking that the new buildings won't be overwhelming is in for a surprise.
I disagree with this sentiment.

The mirror effect and blueness of all the glass of the new towers will visually make them blend into the sky more. Despite the knowledge that the new 1WTC and 2WTC will be huge, psychologically they will blend more with their surroundings, diminishing their impact.

The facade of the original twins (with the narrow 18 inch windows and vertical lines, with almost no discernible horizontal spacing) transcended the human scale and made the towers appear as shiny solid steel on a blue sky.

The fact that the originals reflected none of their surroundings made them visually dominate any view they were in and appear larger then they were.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2011, 8:53 PM
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^^^ I totally agree with that but 1WTC will still be very big but the old WTC appeared even bigger.
     
     
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Great stuff STR !!!!!!!!!!!

But you still don't have any antennas on the top communications ring.

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Old Posted Mar 15, 2011, 9:24 PM
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The cladding on this building is SUPERB! It's so great to see a building that has its glass exterior add to its beauty rather than decimate it. So many buildings, especially in Asia, have had their designs ruined because of sub-par cladding. Well done, 1 WTC!
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2011, 9:24 PM
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2011, 9:34 PM
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when do you guys think that this project will get more national publicity? I know its on fox with that weekly segment, but when are Discovery channel and major broadcast networks going to have detailed specials and other things like that? the tenth anniversary? Its really starting to become quite imposing for the hole in the ground that most people think it is.
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2011, 10:02 PM
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Great, all the corner nodes have been placed. Now they could finally start decking out the 57 and 58th floor
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2011, 10:24 PM
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Great stuff STR !!!!!!!!!!!

But you still don't have any antennas on the top communications ring.

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Meh. Maybe I'll get around to it sometime this weekend. After looking at my reference photos of the Yamasaki building, I think the top ring will fill up with whip antennas long before the two levels of directional dishes will.
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2011, 10:31 PM
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T-Mobile is doing alot of expansion work in the Tri-State area. Maybe you could throw a few cell antennas up there too. (I have no idea if the top of the tower is a suitable place for cell antennas or not.)

(The prints actually show mostly whip antennas up there with some dome antennas.)

     
     
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